The Paradox of Democratic Governance

Eric Medlin

History instructor. Writer. Rising star in the world of affordable housing.

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  1. Saul Degraw says:

    1. What the most conservative Democrat wants is still a lot better than what the most liberal Republican will go for;

    2. The point of electoral politics is not to change minds, it is to enact law and policy.Report

    • Philip H in reply to Saul Degraw says:

      Agreed in part, dissent in part. Democrats do need to do a better job of bragging about their successes and reminding voters that they do actually get stuff done for ordinary Americans. Unfortunately if you don’t change some minds some times, electoral politics won’t allow you to enact policy.Report

      • Eric Medlin in reply to Philip H says:

        This is true. It is incredibly hard to do that, though, with a poor public relations strategy and only a handful of electoral successes. If Congress was functional and could pass headline bills throughout an administration, this would definitely work.Report

  2. j r says:

    “These men and women do not support the gutting of environmental regulations or the cutting of taxes for the wealthy.”

    One of the costliest items in the Build Back Better Act is the increase in the SALT cap. I mention this not because I care to debate the merit of SALT deductions, but to point out that herein lies the resolution to your paradox. Wealthy urban and suburban residents of expensive cities are a core part of the Democratic constituency. They have to be paid.

    Teacher’s unions are a core part of the Democratic constituency, so lots of blue cities and states followed their demands and closed schools indefinitely during the pandemic. That may have cost Northam the Virginia’s governor race.

    There’s a sizable minority of leftists and/or wokeists who have become part of the Democratic coalition. They don’t get to make much policy, but most of the rest of the part has to at least acknowledge them and occasionally say things that sound vaguely leftist or wokeish.

    All of that cost political capital, which then cannot go towards things like extending the child tax credit. It’s funny. In Clinton and Obama, the Democratic party has two living, breathing examples of how to win and hold the White House and how to govern popularly and effectively, and yet, some folks are holding out for the second coming of FDR or LBJ, even though Democrats have no hope of getting FDR or LBJ numbers in congress. Our politicians have just given up on actually governing and are, instead, simply trying to capture some vague and ethereal notion of transformative change that they have no hope of delivering.

    None of this is a mystery. Unless of course, you wish to be mystified.Report

    • Chris in reply to j r says:

      I’m not sure what the examples of Obama and Clinton are supposed to show. Neither was able to enact much of their agenda, with Obama’s only significant achievement (an extremely watered down version of his health care plan) came in his first year. What’s more, Clinton gave us horrible things like welfare reform, in the name of “compromise.”

      Yeah, the Bernie wing of the Democratic Party does not, currently, have a majority within the party (even if Bernie is consistently the party’s most popular elected politician, and many of his policy proposals are widely popular, in the general population), but the non-Bernie wing governs largely by not doing much of anything, and blaming this on the opposition’s obstructionism, then blaming the inevitable electoral losses (because they’re doing nothing) on the left and/or woke, or in Virginia, on teachers trying not to die from a terrible virus.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to Chris says:

        Remember when Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize? That was funny.Report

        • Chris in reply to Jaybird says:

          Just heard a story the other day what’s going on with the indefinitely detained prisoners at Gitmo these days, but Obama really wanted to close it, and it’s the intent that counts.Report

          • Jaybird in reply to Chris says:

            Extending PATRIOT and the AUMF was the most confusing.

            It was fun to listen to friends who were eviscerating Bush a mere handful of years before explaining to me the importance of protecting civilians.Report

            • Chris in reply to Jaybird says:

              I didn’t think I could be much more cynical than I was in 2008, but somehow, watching all the progressive bloggers I respected from the Bush days tack hard to the center once a Democrat was in the White House has made me even more so.Report

              • Pinky in reply to Chris says:

                So much of foreign policy is outside specific ideology. When that happens, people make decisions based on trust. We can’t let the other guy make that decision, because he’s crazy! We can trust our guy to make that decision, he’s a good human being. This is the wiggle-room bias. I think the original article shows a lot of that.Report

            • Eric Medlin in reply to Jaybird says:

              Yeah, I don’t see future presidents sticking their neck out to draw down military engagements anywhere. Biden withdrew from Afghanistan and received almost nothing from the left for it.Report

              • Chris in reply to Eric Medlin says:

                What might he have gotten from the left out of it? He did it, it’s good that he did it, the left pretty much universally said it was good that he did it, but one of the big differences between liberals and leftists is that leftists aren’t going to become instantly loyal to a politician for doing one good thing when they’re still doing all sorts of bad things, or not doing any other good things. If that were the case, the left would be big Trump fans for the eviction moratorium, e.g., or the fact that Trump was the one who initially set the date for withdrawing the military from Afghanistan.Report

              • Philip H in reply to Chris says:

                one of the big differences between liberals and leftists is that leftists aren’t going to become instantly loyal to a politician for doing one good thing when they’re still doing all sorts of bad things, or not doing any other good things.

                Bingo.Report

              • Mike Schilling in reply to Chris says:

                Trump made the withdrawal from Afghanistan inevitable. Biden had little choice but to complete it. It’s surprising how few people see that.Report

              • InMD in reply to Mike Schilling says:

                I still don’t believe any regular voter cares about Afghanistan and the idea that the withdrawal has played into Biden’s prospects is, pardon the expression, fake news. Yea, if you ask someone they’ll give you an opinion but it isn’t driving anyone to or from the polls. If it was it would’ve been over 10 years ago.Report

              • Jaybird in reply to InMD says:

                I suspect that the Afghanistan withdrawal was a seed crystal rather than a mistake in its own right. People were happy that Biden was not Trump, sure… but, outside of Team Good, there wasn’t a lot of happiness about Biden qua Biden.

                The Afghanistan withdrawal gave something for them to put their finger on.Report

              • InMD in reply to Jaybird says:

                I see it slightly differently. People wanted not just Trump gone, they wanted back to something like normal. Unfortunately for a bunch of reasons we just aren’t there so Biden is suffering from a severe perception of over-promise, under deliver.

                What’s doubly screwed him on that front is the apparent inability of the Democrats in Congress and their media allies to count Senators, and he does not have the political talents to dig himself out of his circumstances.

                Where I disagree with you (if at all) is I think Afghanistan is a convenient bullet point for a media that no longer knows how to understand people. More of a ‘Team good won, so why are people upset? Must be that Afghanistan thing we spent 2 weeks squealing about. That sure didn’t look good on camera!’

                Meanwhile Joe Schmoe voter is dealing with inflation, ongoing issues with covid and the schools, and maybe work. Worse maybe there’s some local static about murders up or CRT that are generally bad for Democrats. You know what I mean, all the stuff that, per twitter, isn’t actually happening. Then during all of that the Democrats, again, since they can’t count Senators, turn the legislative accomplishments they have into failures, can’t get anything else done, and so the perception becomes they can’t solve these actual issues people are dealing with. If those things were going differently I think Afghanistan could have played out exactly the same way it did and Biden would be within the average for this point in his administration.Report

      • InMD in reply to Chris says:

        In fairness re:Clinton a lot of things looked like left of center victories at the time. It was consistent with what was going on in other western democracies. That they haven’t always aged well I think is more about changes in the world and politics over the last 20 years.

        Even talking in terms of ‘progressive’ accomplishments would’ve sounded weird since no one talked that way then.Report

      • j r in reply to Chris says:

        Chris, my comment is strictly in response to the supposed paradox outlined in the OP. Eric wonders why the Democrats aren’t more popular. Obama and Clinton are contemporary examples of how to be popular two-term presidents. Nothing more, nothing less.

        I think that we are largely in agreement here. The post ends with a bit about Democrats finding ways to use political power. I argue that Democrats are doing exactly that. Political capital is like financial capital. You either spend it or save it. And if we pay attention to how Democrats spend or don’t spend their political capital, then we will get a much better understanding of what they are about, certainly better than high-minded rhetoric about promised transformation that simply will never happen.

        I am not a leftist. But as a black American, I notice the difference between the rhetoric on voting rights and the actions taken. Likewise, parents wanted schools open sooner. The teacher’s unions did not. Politicians made their choices. Voters observed and then reacted. That’s politics. How I feel about it is beside the point.Report

  3. Chip Daniels says:

    Just in time for MLK weekend courtesy Charles Booker:

    “I think the tragedy is that we have a Congress with a Senate that has a minority of misguided senators who will use the filibuster to keep the majority of people from even voting.“ – MLK

    59 years later, we are facing the same tragedy.

    https://twitter.com/Booker4KY/status/1481685602059886595Report

  4. John Puccio says:

    It’s always interesting to observe “Team Good” discuss amongst themselves why their wildly popular policies are not at all popular. The conclusion is almost always, “it’s not us, it’s THEM.” And if not THEM specifically, it’s another outside factor victimizing Democrats.

    I thought Trump’s victory would have been cause for more critical introspection, but alas…Report

    • Pinky in reply to John Puccio says:

      It’s a natural instinct I made reference to earlier. When a person thinks about his own side, he pictures the policies that have been successful, the proposals that poll well, what he remembers of the arguments that seem soundest to him, and all the leaders’ statements that made sense. He remembers the close elections that broke against him, and how the other side didn’t give up courteously.

      Thinking about the most important topic of our time, I remember everything good that Sean Connery did as Bond, and every corny joke that Roger Moore made. I grant wiggle room to my side, not to the other. I can literally think of no reason that someone would defend Roger Moore’s Bond.

      Malcolm in the Middle did a great bit about how we hear ourselves and others:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFP-6GtnnZsReport

      • John Puccio in reply to Pinky says:

        That’s really funny.

        Confirmation Bias is easy to spot in others and takes a herculean effort to recognize in oneself, even when you think you are actively trying to guard against it.

        It’s similar to the planning fallacy. Your default is always closer to best case scenario regardless of how much you try to fight being overly optimistic. Kahneman had a great anecdote about the time he was on a committee of behavioral psychologists and despite how well versed they were in the concept, still were disastrous planners.Report