Thoughts of a Hypocritical Conservative

Avi Woolf

3rd class Elder of Zion. Wilderness conservative/traditionalist. Buckley Club alum. Chief editor of @conpathways.

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  1. DrSloperWazRobbed says:

    Great to hear the positive side of social media being pointed out. At the end of the day, I am a great believer in the idea that there are more differences within groups than between groups. I am I guess a socially liberal, economic center-leftist that frankly scans today as conservative, in that I don’t want to burn everything down and start again. But even if it was a center-right world, eg as it was around 30 years ago, I still wouldn’t to burn everything down! Some folk just want to watch the world burn…Report

  2. North says:

    You’re not alone Avi. A lot of people cherish their individuality. A lot. Heck, a lot of the people who yelp the loudest about our current fallen world drink deeply from the chalice of individuality and have individuality dripping from their chin (for example, how many sects of Christianity is Dreher an Apostate to? Two? Three? Four? He still scorns the cafeteria Catholics though.)

    That’s the thing about people who bemoan the current social state of atomization and individualism in the world today. They have a, maybe, general vague inclination that the stifling, nosy, intrusive societies of yesteryear had some things to commend them. They ignore that for many groups of people both small (LGBT+) or large (women, minorities) those past societies were nightmares and we would not only not desire to return to them but would fight, violently, to not be forced to return to them. And for organized religions that peddle in those old-style social systems those of us who’d fight like hell to not be forced into their systems present an intractable problem. The old methods or either driving us away or pretending we don’t exist never worked well and can’t work now and they flat out have no other answers and never could be bothered to come up with any.Report

    • Pinky in reply to North says:

      You’re making the liberal argument for liberalism. You’re free to do so, but it doesn’t address the themes of this article.Report

      • North in reply to Pinky says:

        I would think it’s more a liberal criticism of conservativism or, maybe even more specifically, a criticism of nostalgia since conservativism, properly constituted, accepts that the world will change and merely seeks to constrain that change to a measured and constructive pace while seeking to prevent the good from being tossed out with the bad.Report

  3. CJColucci says:

    I don’t see the “hypocrisy” here. Unless it’s in the idea that a correct political/social theory requires that people have a specific type of personality selected from among a wide range of generally normal, non-sociopathic personalities, and you don’t have it, which would be a serious objection to any such political/social theory.
    I don’t see that there’s anything wrong with you. I doubt that your belief system, correctly understood, entails that there is anything wrong with you, but I could be wrong. In which case, I’d suggest that the belief system, not you, is what’s off-kilter.Report

  4. Burt Likko says:

    My first reaction to this article is “Avi isn’t describing being a conservative, or being a new kind of or a non-traditional conservative. He’s describing being human.” So I went back and tried to figure out what you’re pointing out as a traditional marker of conservativism that you identify as not quite fitting. I’m at a loss.

    The bulk of the article discusses various kinds of discomfort with joining or being in groups, and various manifestations of introversion. But that’s not exclusively conservative nor exclusively non-conservative. I see plenty of shy folks and shoe-gazers at the Portland Antifa-Inclusive Non-Patriarchical Deconstructive Veganism and Nutrition Co-Op collective organizational meetings and coconut-based ice creem socials. Some of these folks are only able to interact comfortably with the dogs.

    More soberly, what I see articulated here is a personality trait, not a political preference, and it pretty obviously transcends ideology. Whether it manifests in social interactions, political expressions, family relationships, professional activities, whatever. We all have to find and set boundaries in order to thrive. What boundaries are comfortable and best for you may not be the same as the ones that are best for me. This absolutely transcends politics.

    Know that this trait waxes and wanes within all of us. We all feel lonely sometimes, and sometimes that loneliness becomes a feedback loop of introversion. I’ve felt that myself. I bet we all have. This is a part of the complex emotional experience of being human. Congratulations, Avi; you’re not just a conservative, you’re also a human being. Turns out these things are compatible after all. (Again, know that I jest.)

    I commend you for three things in particular here, Avi. 1) You’ve given this intentional thought and made an effort to find boundaries that work for you. Good! A lot of people don’t ever do that and are unhappier for it. 2) You appeal to us to reach out to folks who might be caught in an introspective feedback loop, and be open to helping someone break out of a cycle of loneliness. Yes! How often have we all been on the other end of that and hoped that a new person might reach out and prove to be friendly? And most of all 3) It probably took a lot of guts to write this essay and bare these thoughts for all of us to read. I recognize. I love that you did it. You’ve described something I know is in each and every one of us, and made us all feel a little better, a little less lonely. Thank you for doing that, Avi. I look forward to your next contribution here.Report

  5. Rufus F. says:

    I mean, it’s easy to overlook the flaws of small towns and civic institutions, but I also grew up in a small town where everyone was in a civic institution. (My family was in the Lion’s Club) And, I gotta tell you, it’s hard for me to imagine that world existed less than 70 years ago. I mean, I know it was a lot less because I’m not THAT old, but it’s as gone from the earth as Victorian England.

    So, it’s hard to feel yourself to be the carrier of vanished past aesthetics and values and not be a little extreme about them- either a rosy sentimentalist or a radical burn-it-all-downer. All I can say is that I know a lot of ‘progressives’ right now who, after a year of social instability and pandemic madness, find themselves yearning for things that sound a lot like the community bonds I remember.

    Is that conservative or liberal? I don’t know. I think most of us have deep values that are felt rather than reckoned and maybe don’t align well to left or right.Report