Restating: Rethinking States, Cities, and Redistricting
So once again we are at the point we reach here in the United States every ten years where we are forced to reshape our Congressional Districts. Some would say this is an extreme exercise in futility and others will say it is necessary to ensure proper representation in our republic. Both are right. Now, what if we really go at it and Restate?
Maura, what are you talking about? “Restate” isn’t a real term. Well, technically it is: “to state again or in another way,” per Merriam-Webster. So what happens if we separate major cities from their conjoined states? For example, if we separate Chicago from Illinois, congressionally nothing happens, but suddenly Illinois has two senators. “But Maura, Illinois already has two senators.” Yes and no. The issue in many states is that senators are actually elected by the major cities, so in Illinois that means Chicago gets the attention and down state not so much. Missouri is another good example. St. Louis and Kansas City are all anyone has to campaign in to win a senate seat, meaning rural Missouri does not get a say (in disclosure I have lived in the greater St. Louis region for 38 years.)
For this thought experiment let’s limit our thinking to metropolitan areas of roughly five million or more inhabitants or about half of the accepted size of a megacity. So what cities would be affected? Well, the top ten off the top of my head would be:
New York City, NY Population: 20,320,876
Los Angeles, CA Population: 18,710,563
Chicago, IL Population: 9,458,539
Houston, TX Population: 6,997,384
Phoenix, AZ Population: 4,737,270
Philadelphia, PA Population: 6,096,372
Miami, FL Population: 6,166,488
Boston, MA Population: 4,875,390
Seattle, WA Population: 4,018,598
The Constitution does allow for this (U.S. Constitution Article IV Section 3.)
New States may be admitted by the Congress into this Union; but no new State shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.
The Congress shall have Power to dispose of and make all needful Rules and Regulations respecting the Territory or other Property belonging to the United States; and nothing in this Constitution shall be so construed as to Prejudiceany Claims of the United States, or of any particular State.
So the founders sort of allowed for states to divorce, and there is precedent! In 1861 27 counties chose to leave Virginia and became West Virginia. Yes, this happened at the beginning of the American Civil War, but a precedent is a precedent none the less. So with precedent established, let’s dive into this rabbit hole of an idea!1
Chicago! Why Chicago Maura? It’s the smallest of your examples. Because it is sort of my back yard and being the smallest itis the easiest to deconstruct. So where and how do we draw the lines? I’m going to use existing county lines as opposed to random edges of weird congressional district boundaries. So here are the counties and their population–all data via Wikipedia.
From Illinois we take:
Boone 53,544 persons 288 square miles in area
Cook 5,150,233 persons 945 square miles in area
DeKalb 105,160 persons 635 square miles in area
DuPage 922,921 persons 322 square miles in area
Grundy 50,972 persons 430 square miles in area
Kankakee 109,862 persons 681 square miles in area
Kane 532,403 persons 524 square miles in area
Kendall 128,990 persons 322 square miles in area
Lake 696,535 persons 444 square miles in area
McHenry 307,774 persons 611 square miles in area
Will 690,743 persons 849 square miles in area
So from Illinois we lose: 8,749,137 persons and a total land area of 6,051 square miles. That leaves Illinois with 51,864 square miles of land and a population of 4,063,371.
Wait Maura! That means Illinois will lose 68% of its population!
Yes, you are correct and part of the point of this exercise. Thirty-two percent of the Illinois population and 90% of it’s land, is governed by one city; what is locally called “Down State” is often left out or has very Chicago specific laws forced upon an otherwise very rural state—population density of Illinois in this project is 78.34 persons per square mile on average.
A narrow example, but I live down state and this is the view from my roof taken last summer:
Now I happen to be in a more population dense area just outside of St. Louis!
Part of forming Chicago into a state means we need the entire metropolitan area, so what counties do we take from Indiana?
Jasper 33,270 persons 560 square miles
Lake 485,493 persons 499 square miles
Newton 14,011 persons 402 square miles
Porter 170,389 persons 418 square miles
So Indiana donates 703,163 persons and 1879 square miles of land.
So what does the State of Chicago look like?
Population 9,452,300 (almost a mega-city by definition)
Land area of 7,930 square miles
Average population density of 1,192 persons per square mile
Map courtesy of my daughter Docta Jazz
What is the financial impact of divorcing Chicago from Illinois? Let’s begin by figuring income tax amounts and go from there:
These are the counties that would make up the State of Chicago:
Now, Illinois has a flat income tax rate of 4.95% so figuring the states share of these counties is easy. For simplicity we are going to use median household income and the number of households for each county—see math above. So the state of Chicago would at this rate take in $9,776,723,008 annually.
Now taking the state of Chicago out of Illinois leaves $11,231,861,622. We can clearly see that “Downstate” does bring in more revenue than Chicago by income numbers.
But Maura what about sales tax and motor fuel tax and sin taxes?
While that is a good question the summery is: I am not an accountant or an economist and these numbers are a nightmare! Plus trying to tease them out is not—to me—easy.
Change of heart! Let’s walk on the WILD SIDE!! Alrighty, overly complicated generalizations here we go!
Sales and use taxes are lumped together in the Fiscal Year 2020 report at $15,902,689,735.66 for the state. Now if we divide that by total number of households in Illinois it becomes $3281.52 Now we can extrapolate this data into two numbers for Illinois and the state of Chicago.
The State of Chicago would have 3,205,203 households or $10,517,937,748.56 in sales and use revenue.
Illinois would be left with 1,640,931households or $5,384,747,895.12
Now we can quickly see that, as far as sales and use taxes, Chicago is double the rest of the stat
Due to mass transit in Chicago and vast distances in Illinois I will not try to extrapolate fuel taxes and after trying to read the fiscal year 2020 budget and the fiscal year 2020 capital budget I’m not too sure I can tease those numbers out of the data.
So in total Chicago should have an annual revenue about $20,294,660,756.
And Illinois should have an annual revenue about $6,508,609,517.12.
A difference in Chicago’s favor of $13,786,051,238.
While this sounds HUGE, let’s consider some things that if you can tease them out of the capital budget or the line items your doing better than me.
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- Chicago would be responsible for the expense of maintaining Interstate highways in their area so: 55, 57, 65, 88, 90, 94, 290, 294, and 355
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- The entirety of the Chicago public school system would fall squarely on Chicago as well.
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- Chicago would be responsible for all of their pension mandates.
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- Prisoner housing would also fall to them and considering they are the largest city in Illinois you can well figure most inmates originate from Chicago.
So who comes out ahead?
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- In my opinion money wise Illinois does, mostly because of all the things Chicago would suddenly have to fund on its own.
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- Representation in Congress is a wash, but Illinois would pick up two senators and Chicago would still have two.
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- The remaining Illinois counties around Chicago would have to greatly tighten their zoning laws though to keep “Outer Chicago” from becoming a thing and losing cropland.
So what about those other cities in the list?
This post taught me something very important: money flow through a state is convoluted and well disguised. State budgets are not like we use at home where everything has a line and is clearly delineated. At a state level everything is generalized, departmentalized, and nigh on impossible for a layman to understand as it is written in a mix of bureaucratese and political favors. There is no reason for this except to keep us commoners from understanding just where OUR money is going. Yes I said OUR because all government is supposed to do is collect tax revenue and allocate it for the good of all its citizens–the way these budgets look, we are getting the shaft and not the mine.
This is just Illinois; New York, and Los Angeles, are both WAY larger and I’m sure have way more convoluted budgets so teasing them apart would take a lot of time IF I could manage to tease them apart at all.
Overall divorcing these mega-cities from their states could be a net positive for both states and cities. Yes, we could see more Democrat senators added which would possibly alter the balance in D.C. but with more areas enacting rank choice voting that may soon be an issue of the past anyway.
- Editor’s note: The legality of West Virginia’s secession is still a point of contention among legal scholars after nearly 160 years. The Constitution says no state can be made to give up its territory without its consent. Lincoln’s proclamation confirming West Virginia’s statehood rested largely on the fact that Virginia had left the Union at the time. -Em
That’s an intriguing idea, that we Restate every so often for the same purpose as redistricting, to even out the balance between large and small states.
Impractical to do it entirely, since the population clusters would warp the map but still, there really is a good reason to break California and Texas up into smaller units, and sweep the Dakotas, Montana and Wyoming into a cohesive entity.
The electoral implications are obvious but worth noting that plenty of states only became so for partisan reasons anyway.Report
Living in a western state, I would be concerned about water and energy. Moving a state line might have drastic effects on interstate water compacts that took decades to negotiate. Or split existing intrastate agreements into odd interstate ones. Also moving large generating assets from a state with one set of regulations into a different state with a quite different set.Report
I grew up in Chicago too! And if we’re exploring the concept of a City-State, would it make more sense to emphasize the City vs. State? That is, Cook and DuPage make sense… Maybe even NW Will… but I’m not entirely sure what the objective is by going all the way to, say, DeKalb.
The City-State concept, seems to me, should be compact, dense and rich. But it still has to act as an engine to surrounding areas… so giving the City-State some *extra* autonomy/representation might be a good idea, but it should still be circumscribed somewhat aggressively.
So my counter would be to *not* try to create new ‘States’ but to think through what a revival of an older concept of ‘City-State’ might look like. But that would come down to are we trying to create ‘free’ senators to swing existing balance of power, or are we trying to find a new modus of governing vast geographies in a mass democratic paradigm?Report
Virginia has an example – Arlington. Its a city, its a county and its neither. Granted it’s not going to run out of NOVA anytime soon, but its a small illustrative example.Report
Of what though?
My position is that if we want to take seriously the notion of expanding the Polity to include new entities that impact politics at the Federal and State levels, then we should look at what that means.
It’s ok to say, MOAR STATES… I’m just not sure that creating a State out of Chicago makes as much sense as saying… what if we look at some sort of Autonomy for City-States which has greater discretion on funding local projects, but which also has duties/taxes to the surrounding state(s), and which has some new electoral capacity yet to be defined…
Or, we should all take baby steps and simply focus on the Reapportionment Act of 1929 — let that change settle for a decade or two, then reassess.Report
Arlington is an example of a county-city combination that can offer guiding lessons on what a city-state might actually look like.Report
How? Seriously… it has no unique privileges or duties that aren’t wholly dependent upon the State dividing administrative boundaries somewhat arbitrarily.
I guess I don’t find the tricky part guessing what Cities might be candidates for becoming a City-State so much as what that would mean in practice.
Also… I wouldn’t think that Arlington would qualify for City-State status… it’s just a plain old small city.
But likely I’m not quite getting what you’re going for here?Report
Arlington is not unique in a unified city-county government. And it’s a de facto city by almost any definition.
Honolulu (Hawaii) has had a unified city-county government for decades, and has rural areas* in addition to suburban and urban.
Macon and BIbb county merged sometime in the last twenty years; that was small city merging with suburbs.
*maybe not in the strict census sense since they are rather small area wise, and I’m not sure the central pineapple fields are there anymore (as open fields) as they had shut down most operations as of my last visit 6-7 years ago.Report
I made a comment recently about state politics being different based on the number of major population centers and the relative population of non-population-centers. It seems relevant here, although I’m not sure what recommendations it would lead to.
Looking over your top choice cities, I notice four where I see the states as locked in a city versus non-city battle (NY, IL, WA, and MA). Actually, in Washington, there may not be enough of a non-Seattle population for it to count as a feud. In CA, TX, PA, and FL there are enough population centers and other population that I don’t think they’re dominated by one or two factions. I don’t know AZ in-state politics enough to comment on it.Report
Ultimately I think there are two competing objectives:
1. Team Blue needs/wants more Senators.
2. Are we governing our Giant State well
I’m open to discussing #2 and am somewhat indifferent to the pleas of #1 becuase addressing #2 will likely reshuffle the deck and make #1 moot — or so I surmise.
If #2 were the overriding factor *and* we were willing to jettison both historical and constitutional ties… then we could just re-apportion the states to whatever number we want. Let’s say that while we abandon all other ties, we sentimentally decide to adhere to the number 50 states. Cool. Each State is reapportioned into a ‘district’ that incorporates approximately 6.6M souls. Congressional districts would then be equally divided among all 50 ‘states’. Voila.
Of course, now we have massive battles on where the lines are drawn for each state every 10-yrs (assuming we keep that artifact) and we still have the battle over what principles we use to draw the state lines (Compact? Communities of interest? Preferred historical borders, etc. etc.).
But mostly I think people are just trying to snake their team’s interests into some theoretical ‘democratic’ principal that doesn’t hold up to scrutiny if we aren’t willing to drop all constitutional bonds — drop one, drop all.Report
I’m assuming good faith here, that the goal isn’t to boost one particular party. Anyway, that doesn’t always work the way it’s expected to, so I’m assuming this is “let the chips fall where they may”. I think the issues are whether we’re governing our states well, and whether their residents are getting fair representation in Congress.
I don’t have a sense of how strong people’s state loyalty is. I’m sure Wyomingans would love for their state to be split into four, just to see the reaction from Californians, but I have the impression that Seattlites are proud of their state. Actually, though, I think they’re most proud of their region (including Oregon, Idaho, and parts of Canada). I just can’t gauge the “sense of statehood”.Report
A great many people in the south identify by state first, university second, and city/town third. Even living in Seattle and DC I always told people I was from Louisiana. Still do and I live in the next state eats.Report
Yeah, I’d like to assume good faith, but I don’t. DC Statehood is so transparent when compared to simple retrocession (if the goal is ‘representation’) that any other scheme I run through a filter.
Like Nuclear is to Green Energy Reform : Reapportionment Act (reform) is to Electoral College/Representation/Gerrymandering reform. If we aren’t starting with the simple things that don’t require constitutional level approvals, then we aren’t really starting anywhere.Report
I actually think the statehood/retrocession debate is very illustrative of the faulty assumptions in play, aside from the naked self-interest in how sides are picked. Just because neighboring jurisdictions vote for the same party at the federal level doesn’t mean they could be happily mushed together without all manner of complications. At the very least there’s some serious begging of the question going on with respect to cause and effect.Report
Sure… but now we just run head-long into “what’s a state.”
Minimally it’s an arbitrary boundary in a Federal scheme; maximally it is a sovereign entity whose inhabitants have subscribed to a power-sharing arrangement with a Federal Power that balances the interests of those several states.
And then there’s DC.Report
Maybe we could argue that states are outdated in the current year and publicly shame the people who don’t agree?
We should also annex Canada and Mexico.Report
We could and should on all counts.
The Empire of Guadeloupe.Report
Nah, we should just…see…if they install regimes that ask to be annexed.Report
Maryland’s Democrats have said time and again they don’t want DC retroceded back because it shifts the political center of gravity away from Baltimore.Report
What side of the Mason-Dixon line was Maryland on, again?
Maybe they should take one for the team.Report
Technically the southern side. You cross the M-D line right before you go into Pennsylvania heading northReport
I assume good faith in this OT conversation, while recognizing that it’s not going to impact the national agenda. In my lifetime, I think we could see a breakup of CA or TX, and maybe statehood for DC, Puerto Rico, or Cuba. Outside chance, we get maybe seven more states if we merge with Australia and New Zealand. I don’t see cities becoming states, and I don’t see a redrawing of our current states, but it’s interesting to talk about.Report
Oh yes, always assume OT good faith in principal…which is why I make my baseline assumptions explicit…in case I’m going too far afield.
I take seriously that we’ll probably see some restructuring too.Report
“The issue in many states is that senators are actually elected by the major cities, so in Illinois that means Chicago gets the attention and down state not so much. Missouri is another good example. St. Louis and Kansas City are all anyone has to campaign in to win a senate seat, meaning rural Missouri does not get a say (in disclosure I have lived in the greater St. Louis region for 38 years.)”
In Illinois and other state yes but I don’t think it is true for Missouri. Democrats would have no trouble retaining control of the Senate if all they needed to do was focus races on the big cities and inner-ring suburbs of said cities. What happens in many states like Missouri is that the cities are not quite large enough to dominate the election. Cities in red states like Ohio, Texas, North Carolina, and Missouri tend to be quite blue but they are not quite the population hubs of the state.Report
Mississippi has this dynamic as well, though down here ion the coast white liberals have taken to running as independents to get elected to county level offices. We haven’t had a Democrat elected governor since the 1990’s and we lost our last statewide democrat when Jim Hood lost his bid for governor to Tater Tot.Report
When this sort of discussion comes up, I invariably drag out my map and cartogram of the Great Plains states. From the 2020 census, just over a half million square miles (almost double the size of Texas) and a bit over five million people. The counties in white collectively gained population in 2020 for the first time since 1930. The population gains in Texas were due to expansion of the DFW suburbs, the major oil and gas counties, and Lubbock. Outside of Texas there was another net population loss. More than half the counties have population density below 7.0 people per square mile, the traditional definition of “frontier”.
There is no sane thing to do with this vast empty space except chop it up and attach it to the cities along the edges.Report
We could take all the unpopulated areas and give them all back to the Native Americans. Have a coupla new states under semi-autonomous Native jurisdiction
I’m kinda sorta joking but not really.Report
The Great ReturnReport
I’m going to echo some of the other sentiments by asking what exactly the goal of this would be. My prediction is that the most immediate outcome would be to national-ize issues better addressed at the local and state level. I have no idea how anyone can look at the federal government and be hopeful it would result in better outcomes. The red state-blue state divide is bad enough as it is without unleashing the larger coalitions and associated zero sum approach to politics on each other for regional decision making.Report
The point I would made -and have several other times in OT- is that, with the exceptions of Louisiana (civil code), Hawaii (history and ethnicity) and Alaska (weather), the states are not historically, geographically, ethnically, culturally, economically, or juridically different enough to consider them functionally equivalent to separate sovereigns.
All 50 states are definitely much more similar to each other than the European Union countries are. The 13 colonies might have had significant differences between them, in days of yore, when the fastest way to go from one state to the next was days of horse riding. But those differences have been erased when we all watch the same TV, use the same internet, buy the same products, and apply the same standards to them, no matter where we stand with respect to some arbitrary lines on the ground.
What is very different today, more so than in the XVIII century, is the difference between urban and rural areas, and the degrees or urbanization/population density. San Francisco is probably more similar to New York City than to Los Angeles. which is probably more similar to Houston or Phoenix than to Sacramento.
If the objective is to devolve power and government to that level which works better for its population, we should dissolve the states and focus in “metropolitan areas”, where the economy, the population, and the culture might be similar. Upstate NY or IL might resent to be run by NYC or Chicago the same way Tampa resents being run from Tallahassee or Laramie being run by even more rural WY.Report
If the cities are “running” the rural areas, you get the problem of the rural areas being treated as playgrounds for urban dwellers, rather than cultural and economic areas distinct from the cities. We already kinda have this problem with people at the federal level who rarely leave the coastal urban corridors deciding what the best way to manage the open spaces in the middle is.Report
That’s allegedly why you have congressional oversight . . .
and its why a mere 15% of the federal workforce sits in the DC metro area. There are SOME mismatches – Interior’s most senior oceans person sits in Boulder, CO but generally the folks making the decisions are actually in touch with the resources they manage.Report
Far from saying that coastal cities should manage interior lands. Coastal cities should govern their own coastal hinterland, and inland cities their direct hinterland, and whatever rural empty lands there are manage theirs.
Whatever is not directly related to the community, including trade, defense, industrial and environmental standards, criminal and civil law, education standards, etc. should be federalReport
I grew up in rural WI (near Sheboygan). My wife grew up in even more rural WI (outside of Marinette, way up North). One of the problems her community had was passing levies for schools, because too much of the land was controlled by people in Milwaukee and Chicago (lots of urban dwellers owned summer vacation homes and hunting cottages up there). Being land owners, they had a right to vote regarding things that impacted their property taxes, so when the school districts tried to pass levies to keep the local schools running, those property owners would make the effort to vote against such levies*.
Hence my wife went to school in a building that had open holes in the floors where you could look down from one classroom to the one below it.
The laws got changed such that eventually such behavior became more difficult (time in residence rules or some such, I can’t remember exactly), but this anecdote illustrates the point I’m making, that control located far away tends to lose sight of the immediacy of issues. Local representation is supposed to deal with that, but history shows that it’s easy to co-opt, or over-ride local representation.
This is not to say that political centers shouldn’t have any say over their hinterlands, but as you suggest, that control should be higher level, not ground level. And there should be clear guidelines for when those are in conflict and what will happen when they are.
*Out west, you get similar impacts when most of the land is owned by the federal government.Report
Not having grown in the USA, I find local property taxes as the basis for funding schools a bizarre concept. My peeve is mostly the opposite of your wife’s. I find it extremely unfair that real state rich school districts can afford facilities bigger than many colleges, while rural WI schoolchildren have to do with derelict buildings.Report
In many states, there is decreasing dependence on local property taxes for schools. Starting as far back as the 1970s it became increasingly common for states to create “equalization funds” to provide poorer districts with assistance. (Later, there were requirements to keep poor districts from cutting their tax rates in order to get more state money.) Generally the “equalization” tag has been dropped and it’s just state funding.
In my state, some of the poorest districts’ budgets are 80% state money. On average across the entire state, about 64%. The lowest I know of is the Aspen school district, with few kids and staggeringly high property values, at about 25%.
The federal Dept of Education does something similar, although not to the same extent.Report
Even in states like WA, where the state evens out the funding, you still get differences through PTA/PTSA orgs. Also, IIRC, major school infrastructure, like building a new school, or major work on existing schools, still requires local levies to pass.Report
Colorado has a state construction fund that helps, starting from 2008. In FY2020 they handed out a bit over $250M. When you thumb through the projects, a ton of rural districts have been getting replacement roofs and boilers.Report
I’ll toss in my usual two cents… The only place that sufficiently significant regional differences are emerging is west of the Great Plains. Fire. Water. Electricity, because thermal power plants in general are not tenable without cooling water. Because in the US, there is a difference between the largest minority group being African-Americans — east of the Great Plains — and African-Americans being the second, third, or possibly fourth largest minority group in any particular western state.
I claim we’re still 15 years out from not just the coastal West, but that larger West, beginning to think seriously they might do better on their own. And the rural parts of those states will go with the cities then. None of them are crazy enough to believe that rural TX/FL/NY/IL are going to offer them nearly as good a deal as the seven or eight major metro areas in the West can offer.Report
I think your points about the density of legal and regulatory requirements written as state identities, and how deeply embedded they are in our business and infrastructure are well taken and probably put cold water on any reforming of state boundaries.
But I could see the development of the western states growing into semi-autonomy, where things like environmental and water and power entities sever themselves from an unfriendly federal state.Report
What’s unfriendly about the federal power management approach out west? the Bureau of Reclamation does a great job delivering hydro power, as does the Columbia River Power system. There’s been no move to investigate western power companies for wildfire increases. Absent federal intervention salmon would likely be functionally extinct. And states are not being held to the same fire reduction land management standards being rolled out (again) for federal lands). Where’s the beef, so to speak?Report
Neither the BPA, nor the WPA, have given an inch in terms of cooperation with maximizing total renewable power used, versus those power administrations maximizing revenue turned back to the Treasury.
Eg, almost everything in the Western Interconnect east of the Continental Divide would desperately like to expand trading renewable power through the CAISO’s energy imbalance market. That trade would expand the use of renewables significantly, if WPA made their transmission capacity available.
The other example is BPA routinely forcing Columbia gorge wind power generators to throttle back so BPA can deliver much more expensive nuclear power from that one f*cking reactor in Washington that the state’s voters would greatly prefer to shut down completely.Report
Though @ Michael Cain and I would probably enjoy discussing optimal power regulation and dispatch over beers, and though I am willing to agree with him that the examples he mentions are probably egregious (at least the way he describes them), I do think that proper power regulation should be exclusively a federal competency. If anything, the problem he’s signaling probably stems from having several federal agencies with overlapping competencies – ATF, Marshalls, FBI, DEA, you get the gist
I do not believe West Plainlands power producers would be better off with an OR BPA running the show, or with CAISO completely shutting them off the California market.Report
I was thinking of a future in which a Trumpian type tries to force the western states to regulate differently than now.
That secession might be unfeasible, but a snipping of some of the many regulatory cords would be possible.Report
I think you are right in saying that the western Great Plains states -plus the Pacific NW coastal fringe, form a cohesive and distinct geographical and economic entity that can be integrated into a larger entity. Again, this West Plainland would be a “federated” thing, meaning the West Plainland government ought to regulate issues like water/energy/environment/natural resources and communications. There’s no real justification to a WY being distinct than an ID or a MT in West Plainland though there’s good reason that Missoula should be run differently than Casper.
My issue is not with larger cohesive units. It is with the artificial nature of the statesReport
Unitary states play around with their administrative divisions frequently because they are basically lines on a map with no inherent identity of their own. During the 1970s, the Heath cabinet basically totally rewrote the administrative map of the United Kingdom because they could. Federal systems tend to be very conservative when it comes to doing this because each state is semi-sovereign and has at least some historical identity. So this isn’t going to happen.Report
I think the states would bristle at the federal government imposing changes, but I’m not so certain that the states themselves wouldn’t mind re-drawing borders, if the federal government wouldn’t constantly say no to it.Report