Government and the Principles of Swamp Drainage

Bryan O'Nolan

Bryan O'Nolan is the the most highly paid investigative reporter at Ordinary Times. He lives in New Hampshire. He is available for effusive praise on Twitter. He can be contacted with thoughtfully couched criticism via email. His short story collection Mike Pence & Me is currently available from Amazon.

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  1. Jaybird says:

    The problem of buy-in.

    The benefits of DC include being that close to all the levers of power. You work at the Dept. of Ag? Have lunch with someone who works at the Dept. of Ed.!

    Friday night, go on a date with someone from the FTC! Maybe even get lucky!

    You start putting these things where they’d make sense to be, suddenly they lose cachet.

    You’re effectively removing a benefit from working there. And *THAT* is the roadblock that we need to figure out.Report

    • Philip H in reply to Jaybird says:

      You work at the Dept. of Ag? Have lunch with someone who works at the Dept. of Ed.!

      This is how the government keeps functioning across the wild swings of administrations and changes in Congress. We even host formal cross-agency trainings so people understand what other people do. Not really sure why you think this is an example of corruption.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to Philip H says:

        I’m not saying it’s an example of corruption. I’m saying that everybody being in bed together (even if it isn’t corrupt) is an example of a benefit of having all of the stuff in DC instead of having Ag in the breadbasket and Ed in the middle of what must surely be the best school districts in the country.

        (Would the agencies still be able to work if they had to Zoom? I mean, I’m open to the argument that this plan wouldn’t have worked in the 90’s for the reasons you mention, but it is 2021.)Report

  2. Motoconomist says:

    I think its worth pointing out that 85% of federal government employees work outside the Washington DC Mero Area.

    https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/reports-publications/federal-civilian-employment/Report

  3. Philip H says:

    7.56% of the federal government works in Washington DC. Many Feds go there, work a few years to climb the ladder, and then return to the hinterlands. An even larger percentage never darken a door in DC. Yes, there is a disproportionately large private sector contracting presence in DC in support of the federal government, but hat’s mostly because we decided in the Clinton Administration to farm out more “non-governmental” functions to the private sector.

    SO move the Bureau of Land Management HQ to Colorado. Trump did. Most of the senior career people retired. and BLM’s HQ is coming back to the Nation’s capitol where and HQ for a national agency belongs.

    (https://www.opm.gov/policy-data-oversight/data-analysis-documentation/federal-employment-reports/reports-publications/federal-civilian-employment/)Report

    • Philip H in reply to Philip H says:

      And adding that Motoeconomist is correct – taking in Maryland and Virginia the total rises to 15%. Which, in the grand scheme of things is a fairly small workforce.Report

      • Michael Cain in reply to Philip H says:

        Heavily weighted to the high end and decision makers, though. That’s long been a complaint of state governments in the West — the vast majority of federal lands are in the West, but the policy makers for Ag and Interior were all in the DC area.Report

        • Philip H in reply to Michael Cain says:

          Those high end decision makers are political appointees, and Congress likes to reach out and touch them whenever they get ticked about something. We made the Capitol in the east when that was all there was of the nation, so unless we move it to Kansas City or Denver this is how it is.Report

          • Michael Cain in reply to Philip H says:

            Our own Will Truman usually suggests Kansas City. I suggest that the federal government buy a 10-mile square north of North Platte, NE and build a new district. Wouldn’t cost that much to build an airport, up-to-date physical facility for Congress, the President, the Supreme Court, and their staffs, and housing for same. Might also provide some encouragement for Congress to stay in town and finish their business by June or July, like in the really old days.

            Just kidding. Me at least. Will might be more serious. Although I would be interested in seeing how YHPS law school grads feel about living in central Nebraska.Report

        • Pinky in reply to Michael Cain says:

          I’d add that the usual swamp-related complaints include the lobbyists and Washington insiders and press corps.Report

        • DJXHD in reply to Michael Cain says:

          Well put. The major decision makers are in DC which is the point of the essay.Report

  4. Chip Daniels says:

    I completely confused as to what the logic of this essay is meant to be.

    Like, moving the Dept. of Ag to Iowa means, what, that the corrupting moneyed elites won’t be able to find it there?

    Or that somehow farmers in Iowa are unable to contact the bureaucrats who are so far away, so very far away, all the way over there at the keyboard?Report

  5. Oscar Gordon says:

    The problem really is the question of what the levers of power can do. The more power government has, the more incentive people have to influence it through means legal or otherwise.

    The issue with this article is a case of special pleading, in that the wrong people have the ear of the power holders, and if we could only deny the wrong people that access, while enabling the right people…Report

  6. Jesse says:

    They tried to do this by moving the Bureau of Land Management to Grand Junction, CO. What happened was all the experienced people are taking early retirement, or taking a job still close to DC, where they’ve lived their whole professional lives.

    It’s weird that people think it’s fine for industries to have hubs where most people in that industry work, but if it’s the government, the key to efficiency and success is spreading people thousands of miles apart.Report

    • Michael Cain in reply to Jesse says:

      Getting people to leave was the goal. They could have moved the HQ to the Denver Federal Center (in Lakewood) where there are thousands of federal employees, many at high civil service level, where they have a commuter rail station that will deliver you to the check-in line at DIA in an hour for any of the many daily nonstop flights to DC (or elsewhere). Or like the US Patent Office, into some of the millions of square feet of new office space available in Denver for a fraction of DC rates. Or even into the regional BLM office in another of the west Denver suburbs. The then Republican US Senator from Colorado pretty clearly liked having them in Colorado but was taken aback by the idea of sticking them out in Grand Junction.Report

    • Michael Cain in reply to Jesse says:

      As a separate thought, the one thing in the universe that Justice Clarence Thomas and I agree on is that a US Supreme Court filled with justices who all came from one of two or three law schools, and who spent essentially all of their pre-SCOTUS professional career somewhere between Boston and DC, is not a good idea. Kennedy surprised the East Coast pundits from time to time with a “western” decision. Gorsuch has already surprised them once.Report

      • Saul Degraw in reply to Michael Cain says:

        Gorsuch is an utter nihilist who is willing to wreck havoc if he thinks it would lead to the correct decision. He is also a Columbia undergrad, Harvard Law, and did all those things Thomas complains of. I’m pretty sure Thomas would scream “but that’s not what I meant” if Biden were to nominate a criminal defense lawyer or plaintiff personal injury lawyer to the Supreme Court.Report

  7. James K says:

    I don’t really see how spreading out the Federal Government helps here Bryan. DC doesn’t contain a large number of would-be corruptors by some cosmic accident, it has them because that’s where decisions are made about government spending. If you move the decisional authority the swamp will follow.

    To me one of the important aspects to reducing corruption is understanding that it’s not money that creates corruption it’s discretion. Tax brakes that are offered to “economically important” companies invites corruption in a way that lower taxes across the board does not. The same can be said of may issue vs shall issue permitting or highly restrictive regulations with discretionary exemptions vs less restive rules that apply equally to everyone.

    I guess I advocate for your option 2 (pump the water somewhere else), and for me transparent, legible rule-based programmes are a sort of reservoir that can take the water without creating a wetland.Report