From the Jerusalem Post: US Senate approves amendment to keep embassy in Jerusalem

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14 Responses

  1. Dark Matter says:

    Much to do about nothing.

    It was given a lot of hype but the threatened reality didn’t match the rhetoric.Report

    • InMD in reply to Dark Matter says:

      It’s better understood as an admission that the ‘peace process’ is and has been over for years now. There wasn’t anything to derail.Report

      • Dark Matter in reply to InMD says:

        They’ll get peace a generation or two after the refugees are allowed to get on with their lives. The clock hasn’t started ticking.Report

        • North in reply to Dark Matter says:

          Or if the Palestinians get a fishing clue and turf the separate Palestinian state idea and convert the issue into a citizenship question in greater Israel. The Israelis will loose the debate if it turns into apartheid redux and they know it. It’s kind of a race between two groups of people as to which one figures out what’s in their best interest first.Report

          • Dark Matter in reply to North says:

            P: There should be only one state, and all we want to do is join that state as citizens!

            I: Does that mean you’re willing to stop killing Jews because they’re Jews?

            P: Of course not!

            I: You can live behind the wall util you change your mind.

            P: Apartheid!Report

            • North in reply to Dark Matter says:

              The West Bank Palestinians haven’t been trying to kill Jews by and large in quite some time. That’s the absolute fruitcakes in Hamas over in Gaza. A Palestinian polity that was bright enough to set aside the idea of a separate Palestine would, assuredly, turf the idea of endorsing violence against Jews. And if they did, the Israelis would be up a creek demographically speaking (even without the Palestinian diaspora returning).

              The whole subject was a lot simpler a decade or so ago when the Israeli position was easier to defend. If only Sharon hadn’t suffered that stroke.Report

              • Jaybird in reply to North says:

                Part of me wonders why it’s not possible to split up the two territories and treat them like they were entirely different territories with entirely different everythings.

                We could have a peace deal with the West Bank tomorrow if we wanted. Some light land for peace deals and, whammo. Jordan II: Electric Boogaloo.

                Then just give Gaza back to Egypt. “Hey! Egypt! Sorry about that six day war thing, huh? Don’t do it again. Anyway, here are some Egyptians-to-be for you.”Report

              • North in reply to Jaybird says:

                There’re all kinds of layers to it. The Palestinians themselves, of course, want to keep Gaza. Also there’re a lot of elements in both the West Bank and especially Israel that think the status quos on the West Bank is just aces and would prefer it stay that way. Israel’s politics are fiercely competitive and the settler block is a powerful component in that. Also removing settlers is extremely painful for the Israelis and the Palestinians don’t make it easy. The last time the Israeli’s dragged their settler loons out (Gaza) the Palestinians trashed what was left behind and launched attacks on Israel. It’s a glowing example of how the extremists on both sides feed each other.Report

              • Dark Matter in reply to North says:

                I’d swear I posted. Test?Report

              • Dark Matter in reply to Andrew Donaldson says:

                Thanks. I guess my other post is in post-prison.Report

              • Dark Matter in reply to Dark Matter says:

                Any mod. Post in post-prison.Report

        • Philip H in reply to Dark Matter says:

          Agreed. And sadly the Palestinians refusal to sign their own UN resolution (approved the year after the resolution creating Israel), has helped them.Report