okfine.
;)
Can't take the truthsay, can you?
It is painful for me to read your labored devious apologia anyway.
Like being forced to watch ugly naked people.
adieu
2009-02-03 19:52:17
Answer my question Mark.
When have we seen Dawkins lobbying for equal time to expound on his theories after the sermon at Saddleback?
Behave in a manner worthy of respect and we shall respect you.
Otherwise, not so much.
2009-02-03 19:45:29
Mark either you are a christianist or an apologist for christianists or both.
Same diff. tant pis.
2009-02-03 19:39:44
Chris i am a practicing Sufi and my religion is personal and private.
I find the lot of you chrisianist triumphalist proselytizers prancing and braying in the public square profoundly disgusting.
But then, as my shayyk has said, Man cannot acquire what he cannot use.
2009-02-03 19:28:58
A reason that both Dawkins and I lose out tempers in this debate is the profound dishonesty and/or self delusion practiced by the superstitionalists. This law was passed with overwhelming support in both houses and signed by Bobby Jindal who should certainly know better.
And funded by the DI who stands to benefit from crappy textbook sales.
How are we to respect you when you don't respect yourselves?
Either you are liars or mortally stupid.
2009-02-03 18:16:54
Again, Mark, Dawkins is not trying to push his theories into churches is he?
Is he demanding equal time after the sermon at Saddleback?
You reinforce my stereotypes.
Quit whining and do the heavy lifting of research and academic street cred or just STFU.
2009-02-03 18:13:09
I see things clear.
You are the delusional one Kain.
Look at the law Jindal signed on in Louisiana.
The only thing that law will accomplish is forcing already impoverished school districts to buy the DI's crappy textbook.
Every single congressman signed on that stupid bill, and Gov. Jindal did too.
What im saying is the absolute truth.
2009-02-03 18:01:59
(I think ALL of the Christians I know) believe in evolution and do not want to see creationism taught in school.
Soooo.....where does the Discovery Institute get their fundage?
2009-02-03 17:59:37
And the fact that you don't do this......Chris....leads me to believe that you HAVE NO FAITH!
lololllololol!
2009-02-03 17:48:23
Who started this turf war?
Did Dawkins go into churches and start preachin'?
No.
Keep religion in churches or do teh heavy lifting in unis where students have a choice.
Dawkins is perfectly cognizant of the reasons behind forcing religion on the 7 to 13 year olds.
He envisions it as child abuse, stunting and blinkering young minds.
I do not think the God Delusion is over the top, and Meyers and the wafer were a reaction to a particular situ.
OTOH Derbyshire called "Expelled" a blood libel against science.
Like i said......get off our turf and stay in your churches and bible colleges, or make your bones in academe.
Simple choice.
2009-02-03 17:33:30
Like I said, its all about respect.
Teh believers want religion to have peer respect with Science, and that isn't possible. So as long as teh religious try to force respect, often thru nefarious and dishonest methods, like the Discovery Institute, they will continue to accrue mockery and scorn.
IDT is actually where quantum physics was 50 years ago.
And now look....high schoolteachers in my state need 3 credit hours of quantum mechanics to be certified. ;)
The solution to this problem, to accrue respect, IDT has to behave respectfully. To be a science, act like a science. Offer courses in IDT at unis, endow chairs and fellowships. Granted, IDT wont be taught as part of a science curriculum in the begining.
Give Behe some actual fundage. Fund Hamerhoff, lol. Fund a peer reviewed journal. Fund research and grad students.
Show me a uni that will turn down fundage in this day and age.
Got no tools? Neither did the first quantum theorists.
Cowboy up and build them.
If you want to be treated with respect, behave respectfully.
Dawkins and company are perfectly right to ridicule and mock.
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okfine.
;)
Can't take the truthsay, can you?
It is painful for me to read your labored devious apologia anyway.
Like being forced to watch ugly naked people.
adieu
Answer my question Mark.
When have we seen Dawkins lobbying for equal time to expound on his theories after the sermon at Saddleback?
Behave in a manner worthy of respect and we shall respect you.
Otherwise, not so much.
Mark either you are a christianist or an apologist for christianists or both.
Same diff.
tant pis.
Chris i am a practicing Sufi and my religion is personal and private.
I find the lot of you chrisianist triumphalist proselytizers prancing and braying in the public square profoundly disgusting.
But then, as my shayyk has said, Man cannot acquire what he cannot use.
A reason that both Dawkins and I lose out tempers in this debate is the profound dishonesty and/or self delusion practiced by the superstitionalists.
This law was passed with overwhelming support in both houses and signed by Bobby Jindal who should certainly know better.
And funded by the DI who stands to benefit from crappy textbook sales.
How are we to respect you when you don't respect yourselves?
Either you are liars or mortally stupid.
Again, Mark, Dawkins is not trying to push his theories into churches is he?
Is he demanding equal time after the sermon at Saddleback?
You reinforce my stereotypes.
Quit whining and do the heavy lifting of research and academic street cred or just STFU.
I see things clear.
You are the delusional one Kain.
Look at the law Jindal signed on in Louisiana.
The only thing that law will accomplish is forcing already impoverished school districts to buy the DI's crappy textbook.
Every single congressman signed on that stupid bill, and Gov. Jindal did too.
What im saying is the absolute truth.
(I think ALL of the Christians I know) believe in evolution and do not want to see creationism taught in school.
Soooo.....where does the Discovery Institute get their fundage?
And the fact that you don't do this......Chris....leads me to believe that you HAVE NO FAITH!
lololllololol!
Who started this turf war?
Did Dawkins go into churches and start preachin'?
No.
Keep religion in churches or do teh heavy lifting in unis where students have a choice.
Dawkins is perfectly cognizant of the reasons behind forcing religion on the 7 to 13 year olds.
He envisions it as child abuse, stunting and blinkering young minds.
I do not think the God Delusion is over the top, and Meyers and the wafer were a reaction to a particular situ.
OTOH Derbyshire called "Expelled" a blood libel against science.
Like i said......get off our turf and stay in your churches and bible colleges, or make your bones in academe.
Simple choice.
Like I said, its all about respect.
Teh believers want religion to have peer respect with Science, and that isn't possible. So as long as teh religious try to force respect, often thru nefarious and dishonest methods, like the Discovery Institute, they will continue to accrue mockery and scorn.
IDT is actually where quantum physics was 50 years ago.
And now look....high schoolteachers in my state need 3 credit hours of quantum mechanics to be certified. ;)
The solution to this problem, to accrue respect, IDT has to behave respectfully. To be a science, act like a science. Offer courses in IDT at unis, endow chairs and fellowships. Granted, IDT wont be taught as part of a science curriculum in the begining.
Give Behe some actual fundage. Fund Hamerhoff, lol. Fund a peer reviewed journal. Fund research and grad students.
Show me a uni that will turn down fundage in this day and age.
Got no tools? Neither did the first quantum theorists.
Cowboy up and build them.
If you want to be treated with respect, behave respectfully.
Dawkins and company are perfectly right to ridicule and mock.