This is like saying that MSU sex predator doctor wasn't accused of any crimes. It was true, but only because the Administration wasn't doing their job.
We have serious accusations of serious crimes, but the U doesn't want to go there so we don't.
Unless you're claiming that harassing/threatening Jews for being Jews and shutting down the U aren't crimes. Or maybe that he's not involved when his own organization under his leadership does those things.
This situation reminds me of the whole "U leaders don't deal with sex offenders" problem. The complicating factor is the U President doesn't want to deal with the issue so they ignore it and pretend there isn't a problem.
There are actual laws and rules which could be enforced, but U Presidents don't get their jobs because they're strong leaders with a history of making unpleasant decisions.
If it were still scientifically accurate, then maybe it would be. Or maybe we've become more accepting of that class.
These words were used as insults because they denoted membership of that class. That creates verbal landmines if you're trying to talk accurately about the class itself and/or your interactions with it.
Very true, that's why I said "normally illegal". That University didn't want to support Jews against protesters.
The Protesters shut down buildings to the point where the cops (repeatedly) have to get involved, there were multiple arrests, Protesters said on tape "Zionists don't deserve to live" and threaten Jews to their faces, and the U wanted to pretend was purely a 1st AM issue.
Different legal bodies can have different opinions on whether or not threatening Jews is a crime. The Feds think it is and Khalil should face some sort of justice (deportation being the easiest and quickest). The U disagreed, which is why the U lost a lot of federal funding.
I asked Google's AI the history of that word/medical-phrase.
...gained prominence in the mid-20th century as a replacement for earlier, more offensive terms like [snip] to describe intellectual disability.
Faict, the term was instantly used offensively. Then it was replaced with [snip] which itself instantly became offensive. But "mid-20th" lines up with his age which is 72.
The "R word" is an example of the Euphemism treadmill where we decide on a polite euphemism (or medical/scientific word) which is then used in a negative way for long enough that it's also replaced. That one was the official gov definition until 2013, so presumably it was polite and acceptable when he was working with them in his much younger days.
DavidTC: You can’t pass laws that do not clearly explain what people cannot do, that people cannot read and understand what behavior is barred.
Khalil led an organization which did things that are normally illegal. We're only attempting to give that a pass because he claimed it was a "protest".
At best his "protest" was a complaint about how another gov conducts itself in a war it didn't start. Most likely his "protest" also included harassment of Jews because they're Jews which is also illegal.
I agree that immigrants have the right to free speech and if that's what we're deporting him over we shouldn't. However pretending Khalil wasn't also crossing lines is not useful.
There is a good chance that the courts will prevent Khalil from being deported over his speech but will allow him to be deported over his other activities.
Trump-as-a-businessman has repeatedly shown that he doesn't care about court orders or business agreements, just how they're enforced. So if there is no way to enforce something then the agreement or order doesn't exist.
We're paying that government a ton of money to house those people ergo we have a lot of leverage. Worse, their gov has no reason to refuse to send him back.
Highly likely that just asking for him to be sent back would do the trick.
If that's not working then the big question should be "why" and I don't see any non-seriously-corrupt reasons on the table.
Burt: Which I interpret to mean Khalil has been critical of the Netanyahu government in Israel and is expected to be critical of it again in the future.
...participation and roles of [REDACTED] And Khalil in antisemitic protests and disruptive activities, which fosters a hostile environment for Jewish students in the United States. My determination for [REDACTED] is also based on [REDACTED] citations for unlawful activity during these protests.
That is more than simply being critical of Israel's gov. The gov is trying to deport him because "fighting antisemitism" is a foreign policy objective? Since when is that a thing? And notice he's not claiming that what Khalil is doing will hurt our relationship with Israel.
When does this end up in front of an Immigration Judge?
JayBird: the dance where someone asks for evidence and then, when it’s provided, they say “that’s not conclusive!” or “that’s not *PROOF*!”
Unfortunately for the conspiracy people, at the moment we don't have "proof", much less "conclusive proof".
What we have is unfalsifiable guesswork along with China being stupidly sensitive about having bad news.
Let me quote wiki here: Most scientists are skeptical of the possibility of a laboratory origin, citing a lack of any supporting evidence for a lab leak and the abundant evidence supporting zoonosis. Though some scientists agree a lab leak should be examined as part of ongoing investigations, politicization remains a concern. In July 2022, two papers published in Science described novel epidemiological and genetic evidence that suggested the pandemic likely began at the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market and did not come from a laboratory.
So we're probably never going to know with 100% surety unless China really did do it and kept records we'll find eventually. However the longer something like that doesn't show up, the more convinced we should be that this was Mother Nature.
If this were a Murder case then we probably have enough to put Mother Nature in jail but we'd occasionally lose that trial. China would always be let go by law enforcement without a trial.
I have some sympathy for this theory because it passes a number of smell tests.
Covid's home town has that lab, which researches something that might be Covid.
China takes "face" seriously so if it did something embarrassing and stupid it would behave the way it has and lie about it. They lie and/or suppress a ton of other normal data.
The US for diplomatic reasons might reasonably not want to poke China about this since we have other priorities and it doesn't really matter.
So the margin of error (fog of war?) is very large.
Having said that, we don't have evidence Covid is man made and explaining that lack through China being a bad actor is somewhat anti-scientific... but we should also keep in mind that China really is a bad actor.
That's the way the media has represented it. Here is a deeper dive from a lawyer who is deeply opposed to Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXXsAiKYDIM
He titled the video, "Supreme Court - ALL 9 JUSTICES - Tell Trump, No More Deportations Without Due Process!"
InMD: It may be that the entire ROI model needs to be reconsidered to keep both studios and theaters afloat.
Hollywood has "special" accounting to keep down how much they're going to "share" with various people/groups. They both include things they probably shouldn't (increasing the cost to make the movie) and exclude income streams.
So some of these "unprofitable" movies will in fact make money for the studio, just not other interested groups.
And I can't reply to posts at this level so if we continue we should move it down to the bottom.
I don't think it's useful to dumb down "racism" to the point where "everyone is racist".
I also think it's a naked power grab to claim "opposing Team Blue is racist".
We've had constant cries of "wolf" to the point where no one pays attention. I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Did this play a role in Trump's 2nd rise? Maybe... but "Racism" is such a small part of Trump that I'd call it a non-factor in his unfitness.
2 weeks ago
We have deadlines for Trump to bring back that guy he illegally sent to a Central American prison in a few minutes.
DavidTC: He is not accused of a crime.
This is like saying that MSU sex predator doctor wasn't accused of any crimes. It was true, but only because the Administration wasn't doing their job.
We have serious accusations of serious crimes, but the U doesn't want to go there so we don't.
Unless you're claiming that harassing/threatening Jews for being Jews and shutting down the U aren't crimes. Or maybe that he's not involved when his own organization under his leadership does those things.
This situation reminds me of the whole "U leaders don't deal with sex offenders" problem. The complicating factor is the U President doesn't want to deal with the issue so they ignore it and pretend there isn't a problem.
There are actual laws and rules which could be enforced, but U Presidents don't get their jobs because they're strong leaders with a history of making unpleasant decisions.
If it were still scientifically accurate, then maybe it would be. Or maybe we've become more accepting of that class.
These words were used as insults because they denoted membership of that class. That creates verbal landmines if you're trying to talk accurately about the class itself and/or your interactions with it.
Very true, that's why I said "normally illegal". That University didn't want to support Jews against protesters.
The Protesters shut down buildings to the point where the cops (repeatedly) have to get involved, there were multiple arrests, Protesters said on tape "Zionists don't deserve to live" and threaten Jews to their faces, and the U wanted to pretend was purely a 1st AM issue.
Different legal bodies can have different opinions on whether or not threatening Jews is a crime. The Feds think it is and Khalil should face some sort of justice (deportation being the easiest and quickest). The U disagreed, which is why the U lost a lot of federal funding.
I asked Google's AI the history of that word/medical-phrase.
...gained prominence in the mid-20th century as a replacement for earlier, more offensive terms like [snip] to describe intellectual disability.
Faict, the term was instantly used offensively. Then it was replaced with [snip] which itself instantly became offensive. But "mid-20th" lines up with his age which is 72.
The "R word" is an example of the Euphemism treadmill where we decide on a polite euphemism (or medical/scientific word) which is then used in a negative way for long enough that it's also replaced. That one was the official gov definition until 2013, so presumably it was polite and acceptable when he was working with them in his much younger days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euphemism#Euphemism_treadmill
DavidTC: You can’t pass laws that do not clearly explain what people cannot do, that people cannot read and understand what behavior is barred.
Khalil led an organization which did things that are normally illegal. We're only attempting to give that a pass because he claimed it was a "protest".
At best his "protest" was a complaint about how another gov conducts itself in a war it didn't start. Most likely his "protest" also included harassment of Jews because they're Jews which is also illegal.
I agree that immigrants have the right to free speech and if that's what we're deporting him over we shouldn't. However pretending Khalil wasn't also crossing lines is not useful.
There is a good chance that the courts will prevent Khalil from being deported over his speech but will allow him to be deported over his other activities.
Yes, that.
Trump-as-a-businessman has repeatedly shown that he doesn't care about court orders or business agreements, just how they're enforced. So if there is no way to enforce something then the agreement or order doesn't exist.
We're paying that government a ton of money to house those people ergo we have a lot of leverage. Worse, their gov has no reason to refuse to send him back.
Highly likely that just asking for him to be sent back would do the trick.
If that's not working then the big question should be "why" and I don't see any non-seriously-corrupt reasons on the table.
Burt: Which I interpret to mean Khalil has been critical of the Netanyahu government in Israel and is expected to be critical of it again in the future.
...participation and roles of [REDACTED] And Khalil in antisemitic protests and disruptive activities, which fosters a hostile environment for Jewish students in the United States. My determination for [REDACTED] is also based on [REDACTED] citations for unlawful activity during these protests.
That is more than simply being critical of Israel's gov. The gov is trying to deport him because "fighting antisemitism" is a foreign policy objective? Since when is that a thing? And notice he's not claiming that what Khalil is doing will hurt our relationship with Israel.
When does this end up in front of an Immigration Judge?
Yep. Trump is unfit for office. The unfortunate reality is a lot of things which are illegal for the President have no enforcement mechanism.
If we're very lucky he'll go down as the 2nd worst President we've seen. If we're unlucky then he'll be number 1.
JayBird: the dance where someone asks for evidence and then, when it’s provided, they say “that’s not conclusive!” or “that’s not *PROOF*!”
Unfortunately for the conspiracy people, at the moment we don't have "proof", much less "conclusive proof".
What we have is unfalsifiable guesswork along with China being stupidly sensitive about having bad news.
Let me quote wiki here: Most scientists are skeptical of the possibility of a laboratory origin, citing a lack of any supporting evidence for a lab leak and the abundant evidence supporting zoonosis. Though some scientists agree a lab leak should be examined as part of ongoing investigations, politicization remains a concern. In July 2022, two papers published in Science described novel epidemiological and genetic evidence that suggested the pandemic likely began at the Huanan Seafood Wholesale Market and did not come from a laboratory.
So we're probably never going to know with 100% surety unless China really did do it and kept records we'll find eventually. However the longer something like that doesn't show up, the more convinced we should be that this was Mother Nature.
If this were a Murder case then we probably have enough to put Mother Nature in jail but we'd occasionally lose that trial. China would always be let go by law enforcement without a trial.
I have some sympathy for this theory because it passes a number of smell tests.
Covid's home town has that lab, which researches something that might be Covid.
China takes "face" seriously so if it did something embarrassing and stupid it would behave the way it has and lie about it. They lie and/or suppress a ton of other normal data.
The US for diplomatic reasons might reasonably not want to poke China about this since we have other priorities and it doesn't really matter.
So the margin of error (fog of war?) is very large.
Having said that, we don't have evidence Covid is man made and explaining that lack through China being a bad actor is somewhat anti-scientific... but we should also keep in mind that China really is a bad actor.
That's the way the media has represented it. Here is a deeper dive from a lawyer who is deeply opposed to Trump: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXXsAiKYDIM
He titled the video, "Supreme Court - ALL 9 JUSTICES - Tell Trump, No More Deportations Without Due Process!"
InMD: It may be that the entire ROI model needs to be reconsidered to keep both studios and theaters afloat.
Hollywood has "special" accounting to keep down how much they're going to "share" with various people/groups. They both include things they probably shouldn't (increasing the cost to make the movie) and exclude income streams.
So some of these "unprofitable" movies will in fact make money for the studio, just not other interested groups.
And I can't reply to posts at this level so if we continue we should move it down to the bottom.
I misspoke. The Supremes dislike creating Constitutional crisis.
They're giving Trump a chance to back down so they don't need to rule against him. The Supremes dislike injecting themselves into open politics.
It was a small child who pointed out that the Emperor had no clothes. Everyone else was waiting for someone else to point that out.
I don't think it's useful to dumb down "racism" to the point where "everyone is racist".
I also think it's a naked power grab to claim "opposing Team Blue is racist".
We've had constant cries of "wolf" to the point where no one pays attention. I'm not sure whether that's a good thing or a bad thing.
Did this play a role in Trump's 2nd rise? Maybe... but "Racism" is such a small part of Trump that I'd call it a non-factor in his unfitness.
We have deadlines for Trump to bring back that guy he illegally sent to a Central American prison in a few minutes.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80UzAKNadow&list=TLPQMDcwNDIwMjU25agnSH1wrw