I don't read any of the federal proposals as doing that, especially since the vote by mail systems would seem to meet all the access requirements of the legislation. Plus you will note that only in Oregon have there been Republican calls for "audits of the process."
And now Manchin, who wants to remain The Man, is expressing support for many of the climate parts of BBB:
Manchin, who last month said he would vote against the Build Back Better Act in its current form, seemed relatively open to its climate components in the first workweek of the new year.
“The climate thing is one that we probably can come to an agreement much easier than anything else,” he told reporters.
Asked about the climate provisions, he said, “There’s a lot of good things in there.”
“We have a lot of money in there for innovation, technology, tax credits for basically clean technologies and a clean environment,” the Senate Energy and Natural Resources Committee chairman said.
Facts speak for themselves, tears only speak about lies.
Indeed they do, and over and over the facts show that the 2020 presidential election was carried out openly, freely and fairly with results that are both legally determined and secure. What fraud there was did not alter the outcome.
Yep. I've said for most of the year - as have you - that all the laws being passed to "secure" the election were solutions in search of a problem. They are at best propaganda, but more perniciously they are designed to dampen election participation by "others." Because the fraud that has occurred is consistent with prior trends. its not zero, but its so vanishingly small - and of particular forms not addressed by any of the law changes in the last year - as to be easily ignored.
No Saul - because consumers aren't supposed to have rights, much less to compensation in an oligarchy. The property of the investor class has to be protected at all costs.
NO, Chip is clearly telling you to join the push back. To call the anti-vaxxers out on their sh!t. To actually agitate - and vote - for people who make good public policy that's not based on woo.
He's also telling you - as am I - that you need to keep up your precautions no matter what the media and the woo mongers say, because we are not yet at endemic for this.
The CDC may well have finally jumped the shark. Politically anyway. Sure a LOT of their guidelines have been best described as being honored in the breech, but for COVID they really needed people to be heading them.
Of course, this bring sup the ugly side of unfettered (or in our case less fettered) capitalism, and its antipathy to labor (i.e. people) since it appears once again that maintaining a certain level of profit and economic production was put before people's lives.
Yes, really. Its illegal to drive with a cracked windshield, especially where the crack crosses the driver's line of sight. My wife has been driving a car just like that around town for nearly a year (because she doesn't want to spend the funds to get it fixed). Its statistically improbable she has never been seen in this state by a cop, and yet she has never been stopped or ticketed, much less warned.
If giving Manchin whatever he wants will aid millions of Americans, Democrats should do it. It may be the only alternative to defeat.
When BBB was first proposed, it was over 3 Trillion dollars for 10 years. The version passed by the House and now dead in the Senate was down to $1.7 Trillion for 10 years due precisely to negotiations with Senator Manchin. I'm not sure what else you expect the rest of the party to give here, but at some point the bait cutting has to stop and the fishing has to start. And the good senator is still trying to convince Democrats which pole to use.
Fun fact - if you open the Wikipedia entry for the "Waffle House Index, you see the remains of a Gulf coastal Waffle House after Katrina. What you don't see is the rest of the slap with several booths intact - where a number of us w3ho were on the federal disaster response used to meet to exchange paperwork during the day.
Its only a theme that doesn't play well when there's no viable economic alternatives. Make West Virginia the manufacturing hub of the wind industry in the US with concomitant good paying jobs and that tide will also turn.
At present, Republicans DON"T WNAT TO PASS BILLS. They WANT TO OBSTRUCT so as to regain power. And when the have power, they will )based on record to date) pass bills to slash taxes for the rich and corporations, pass bills to nullify the regulatory state to the benefit of the rich and corporations, and pass bills at he state level to destroy voting rights via denying access and to deny women body autonomy. And all of that in the face of majority support by ordinary Americans of all political persuasions against the Republican legislation I have mentioned.
White women earn 79 cents on the dollar to white men, so of course they pay off less student debt. Black women earn 62 cents to the dollar; black men earn 87 cents to the dollar. That has nothing to do with the worth of their degrees.
And honestly if you want a curriculum that excels at teaching critical thinking and dissecting the human condition, women's and gender studies are probably it. I can also tell you form inside science, many disciplines still have a the enormous problem un both undergraduate and graduate settings of actively discouraging women from high economic impact studies - the very real "mom tax."
Liberals can’t take the idea that “everyone is equal” is a massive oversimplification.
Liberals don't think this. Liberals DO think that everyone's opportunities should be equal, and liberals think society (and thus government) need to work to make sure barriers to success are removed and/or mitigated. Like the lack of admission of women to most colleges and universities and programs until AFTER RBG finished law school.
There's also no evidence that college has been watered down, especially in the area of critical thinking. Its a nice neo-conservative talking point but it lacks evidence.
Which is an aligned but separate issue. Far more industry segments now require some sort of credential to begin work in the field, and that credentialing has to be sustained. And that in turn means all sorts of tuition based training has to be accomplished to earn a living. Even the trades are beginning to require paper proving competency instead of apprenticeships.
My younger brother became an architect because he wanted to use his art gift in a practical way. It's been very aesthetically and financially rewarding.
and here's an amusing anecdote - given the number of republicans who were elected below Biden they would really have had a tough time tossing mail in ballots and maintaining their hold on lots of offices.
I downloaded it through the Lara Logan Twitter. Its a legit PDF of a ppt. And its chock full of lies and misdirections about the Chinese, Venezuelans, and Dominion voting systems machines.
Slide 23 is pretty straight forward:
Recommendations
● Brief Senators and Congressmen on foreign interference
● Declare National Security Emergency
● Foreign influence and control of electronic voting systems
● Declare electronic voting in all states invalid
● LEGAL & Genuine Paper ballot counts or Constitutional remedy
delegated to Congress
Two slides later:
Next Step – Count the Paper Ballots ▪ When you first disqualify all the counterfeit ballots and then count all the remaining
legal paper ballots nationwide, you restore confidence in the Election Outcome
▪ Regardless of the cheating and stuffing of the ballot box, by eliminating the counterfeit mail-in
and absentee ballots -> Trump Almost Certainly Wins
▪ Additionally, US Senators, US House Races, State, and Local races now turn to Republican
▪ This remedies the problem quickly and easily by:
▪ Eliminating counterfeit ballots and subtracting them from current totals to see if races change, or
▪ Recounting remaining, legal ballots by hand to see who wins races.
▪ Either way, we quickly and easily find out who the elected leaders REALLY ARE and restore confidence in
the outcome!
▪ The electronic voting machines are shifting votes from Trump to Biden
▪ The election fraud perpetrated used the major brands of machines Dominion and ES&S
▪ The foreign actors had to shift votes across the country in all areas in order to achieve
their objectives (Biden Victory)
▪ They had to shift votes in traditionally Republican strongholds in order to deliver a Biden win
because they could jam no more into the major cities (fraud votes)
Then Slide 31:
Restoring Confidence in the
2020 General Election
▪ “Clear the air – count and compare"
▪ The tabulators cannot be trusted nationwide, and many counterfeit ballots have been inserted, therefore:
▪ A full check to weed out counterfeit paper ballots and then a count of the remaining legal ones across the nation must be done
for all races in all states and will accurately determine who the people of America actually elected as our leaders.
▪ All ballots must remain locked and physically protected until directed by the federal government.
▪ A task force led by a trustworthy individual (we recommend Sid Gutierrez: NASA Astronaut, retired Air Force Colonel, Center
Director at a National Laboratory) produce a standard procedure that will be required and will include full accountability so
that counterfeit ballots are excluded and legal ballots are not lost, modified, substituted, or added in.
▪ We estimate counting can be done in each state in 5 to 10 days time with support from identified national assets.
▪ It must be done in full public view (via web broadcast) where each person has the chance to do the count themselves if they so
desire. No more hiding behind barriers, distances, secrecy, and gag orders.
▪ We have the technology to do this.
▪ The paper ballots are secret ballots which means you cannot tell who voted it.
▪ Counterfeit ballots can easily and quickly be identified using technology similar to that used by Treasury to find counterfeit currency. Illegal paper stock,
ballots filled out by a machine, mail-in ballots that never went through the mail, ballots printed and marked with the same ink can all be identified and
rejected.
▪ Every legal paper ballot will have a camera pointed at it and will be captured for a few seconds.
▪ It will be recorded and be broadcast in real time on the Internet.
Next slide:
Count-the-Ballots Top Level Plan
▪ A Trusted Lead Counter will be appointed with authority from the POTUS to direct the actions of select
federalized National Guard units and support from DOJ, DHS and other US government agencies as needed
to complete a recount of the legal paper ballots for the federal elections in all 50 states.
▪ US Marshals will immediately secure all ballots and provide a protective perimeter around the locations in
all 50 states.
▪ DHS will use their emergency response logistic capabilities to support the effort. They will integrate the IT
support that will include separating out the legal from the counterfeit ballots and communications with all
supporting the effort and cameras (Possibly cell phones) imaging each and every ballot. These images will
be distributed to the Internet.
▪ The federalized National Guard in each state will be supplied detailed processes and be responsible for
counting each legitimate paper ballot. Teams made up of three (first couple counties will be five) National
Guard members will do the counting. As the counting occurs each ballot will be imaged and the images
placed on the Internet so any US citizen can view them and count the ballots themselves. The process will be
completely transparent.
and the end:
Options for 6 JAN
VP Pence seats Republican Electors over the objections of Democrats in states
where fraud occurred
VP Pence rejects the electors from States where fraud occurred causing the
election to be decided by remaining electoral votes
VP Pence delays the decision in order to allow for a vetting and subsequent
counting of the all the legal paper ballots
Now, this COULD be a massive misdirection. A gigantic "Own the Libs" play. But if Logan had this 5 January then so did others. And given that its built on demonstrable lies, the conclusion that it was something resembling a coup plan - given its admitted origins - is hard to ignore.
How Ironic that Ted Cruz's former communications director is essentially calling them all out:
Turns out, some of former President Trump’s biggest, most powerful fans/informal advisors at Fox News knew he did something terrible on January 6. And so did his family. And members of Congress. And Trump administration officials.
They knew he was enabling the riot.
How do we know this? Because they explicitly begged his former Chief of Staff Mark Meadows to ask Trump to take action to stop the riot in real-time texts as the destruction unfolded that day.
On “Why Is China Hosting the Winter Olympics?”
See Saul's comment below for one answer to your question.
On “Voter Fraud: I Do Not Think That Word Means What You Think It Means”
Yep that's where a big problem looms, and the federal legislation doesn't address it directly unless I've missed something.
"
I don't read any of the federal proposals as doing that, especially since the vote by mail systems would seem to meet all the access requirements of the legislation. Plus you will note that only in Oregon have there been Republican calls for "audits of the process."
On “Senator Joe Manchin on Build Back Better: “This Is A No””
And now Manchin, who wants to remain The Man, is expressing support for many of the climate parts of BBB:
He really wants to be a king maker doesn't he?
https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/overnights/588278-energy-environment
On “Voter Fraud: I Do Not Think That Word Means What You Think It Means”
Indeed they do, and over and over the facts show that the 2020 presidential election was carried out openly, freely and fairly with results that are both legally determined and secure. What fraud there was did not alter the outcome.
"
Yep. I've said for most of the year - as have you - that all the laws being passed to "secure" the election were solutions in search of a problem. They are at best propaganda, but more perniciously they are designed to dampen election participation by "others." Because the fraud that has occurred is consistent with prior trends. its not zero, but its so vanishingly small - and of particular forms not addressed by any of the law changes in the last year - as to be easily ignored.
On “Elizabeth Holmes Found Guilty On Four Charges”
America, where my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.
"
No Saul - because consumers aren't supposed to have rights, much less to compensation in an oligarchy. The property of the investor class has to be protected at all costs.
On “From NPR: CDC cuts the recommended isolation and quarantine periods for coronavirus infections”
NO, Chip is clearly telling you to join the push back. To call the anti-vaxxers out on their sh!t. To actually agitate - and vote - for people who make good public policy that's not based on woo.
He's also telling you - as am I - that you need to keep up your precautions no matter what the media and the woo mongers say, because we are not yet at endemic for this.
"
The CDC may well have finally jumped the shark. Politically anyway. Sure a LOT of their guidelines have been best described as being honored in the breech, but for COVID they really needed people to be heading them.
Of course, this bring sup the ugly side of unfettered (or in our case less fettered) capitalism, and its antipathy to labor (i.e. people) since it appears once again that maintaining a certain level of profit and economic production was put before people's lives.
But I digress ...
"
Agreed. Cr@ppy economic policy, but still a policy/political decision.
On “Kim Potter Found Guilty in Killing of Daunte Wright”
Yes, really. Its illegal to drive with a cracked windshield, especially where the crack crosses the driver's line of sight. My wife has been driving a car just like that around town for nearly a year (because she doesn't want to spend the funds to get it fixed). Its statistically improbable she has never been seen in this state by a cop, and yet she has never been stopped or ticketed, much less warned.
On “The One Way Democrats Can Revive Their Agenda”
When BBB was first proposed, it was over 3 Trillion dollars for 10 years. The version passed by the House and now dead in the Senate was down to $1.7 Trillion for 10 years due precisely to negotiations with Senator Manchin. I'm not sure what else you expect the rest of the party to give here, but at some point the bait cutting has to stop and the fishing has to start. And the good senator is still trying to convince Democrats which pole to use.
On “Time and Tide and Hashbrowns: A Waffle House Christmas”
Fun fact - if you open the Wikipedia entry for the "Waffle House Index, you see the remains of a Gulf coastal Waffle House after Katrina. What you don't see is the rest of the slap with several booths intact - where a number of us w3ho were on the federal disaster response used to meet to exchange paperwork during the day.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waffle_House_Index
On “Senator Joe Manchin on Build Back Better: “This Is A No””
Its only a theme that doesn't play well when there's no viable economic alternatives. Make West Virginia the manufacturing hub of the wind industry in the US with concomitant good paying jobs and that tide will also turn.
"
At present, Republicans DON"T WNAT TO PASS BILLS. They WANT TO OBSTRUCT so as to regain power. And when the have power, they will )based on record to date) pass bills to slash taxes for the rich and corporations, pass bills to nullify the regulatory state to the benefit of the rich and corporations, and pass bills at he state level to destroy voting rights via denying access and to deny women body autonomy. And all of that in the face of majority support by ordinary Americans of all political persuasions against the Republican legislation I have mentioned.
Your call on how authoritarian that might be.
On “How Should Democrats Handle Student Loan Payments”
White women earn 79 cents on the dollar to white men, so of course they pay off less student debt. Black women earn 62 cents to the dollar; black men earn 87 cents to the dollar. That has nothing to do with the worth of their degrees.
And honestly if you want a curriculum that excels at teaching critical thinking and dissecting the human condition, women's and gender studies are probably it. I can also tell you form inside science, many disciplines still have a the enormous problem un both undergraduate and graduate settings of actively discouraging women from high economic impact studies - the very real "mom tax."
"
Liberals don't think this. Liberals DO think that everyone's opportunities should be equal, and liberals think society (and thus government) need to work to make sure barriers to success are removed and/or mitigated. Like the lack of admission of women to most colleges and universities and programs until AFTER RBG finished law school.
There's also no evidence that college has been watered down, especially in the area of critical thinking. Its a nice neo-conservative talking point but it lacks evidence.
"
Which is an aligned but separate issue. Far more industry segments now require some sort of credential to begin work in the field, and that credentialing has to be sustained. And that in turn means all sorts of tuition based training has to be accomplished to earn a living. Even the trades are beginning to require paper proving competency instead of apprenticeships.
"
My younger brother became an architect because he wanted to use his art gift in a practical way. It's been very aesthetically and financially rewarding.
On “From The Guardian: Capitol attack panel obtains PowerPoint that set out plan for Trump to stage coup”
and here's an amusing anecdote - given the number of republicans who were elected below Biden they would really have had a tough time tossing mail in ballots and maintaining their hold on lots of offices.
"
I've posted quotes from it below. You can probably download and read for yourself if you for to the Logan Tweet.
"
I downloaded it through the Lara Logan Twitter. Its a legit PDF of a ppt. And its chock full of lies and misdirections about the Chinese, Venezuelans, and Dominion voting systems machines.
Slide 23 is pretty straight forward:
Two slides later:
Then Slide 31:
Next slide:
and the end:
Now, this COULD be a massive misdirection. A gigantic "Own the Libs" play. But if Logan had this 5 January then so did others. And given that its built on demonstrable lies, the conclusion that it was something resembling a coup plan - given its admitted origins - is hard to ignore.
On “Texts Between Fox News Host and Trump White House Revealed By January 6th committee”
And by the time the vast majority of the electorate rises to the damage done, it will be too late . . . .
"
How Ironic that Ted Cruz's former communications director is essentially calling them all out:
https://www.thebulwark.com/fox-hosts-begged-trump-to-stop-the-january-6-attack-on-the-capitol/