I find it maddening that the people screaming the loudest about the lack of a COVID plan form the Administration keep trying to hamstring the Administration by litigating rule making like this.
Indeed they can. The Administration chose to go the emergency route because we have an ongoing public health emergency. Now they may have to decide if they want to do the normal rulemaking - which would be a two year gig.
I will say I don’t get your point on the attendance rates.
But a lot of this post is the usual misleading whiff on the ‘racial wealth gap’ when really what we have is better characterized as a class gap.
Race, wealth, and class are inextricably linked in the US. Discussing failed understandings of wealth, earnings, and Socioeconomic status that ignore race are not likely to do much to get at the root of the problem.
That comports with this selection that there's a possible prophylactic effect BFORE getting COVID. I agree the numbers are not great, and I agree that people seem to have this weird motivated reasoning - as you rightly note - to avoid the thing that works. You and I very much agree on this.
At the same time, on of my longstanding criticisms is that a lot of this voodoo lacks peer review. Which it does. SO when we see what appears to be solid peer review I think its worth noting positively.
Nevermind that there are solid, reliable remediations for airborne viruses, that do not rely upon individual compliance of citizens. You build them into the building codes, and you have building inspectors use the banhammer.
Sure, but that takes years since it requires hundreds to thousands of governing agencies at all levels to approve and disseminate. With almost 900K Americans dead in two years I don't know that we can wait that long.
Anyone with a lick of physics knew that masks were ultimately going to be ineffective (big air holes on the sides, dudes. Big air holes in the mask itself so you can breathe. Humans can’t breathe through HEPA filters.)
Again, No:
Masks and respirators are effective at reducing transmission of SARS-CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID-19, when worn consistently and correctly.
Some masks and respirators offer higher levels of protection than others, and some may be harder to tolerate or wear consistently than others. It is most important to wear a well-fitted mask or respirator correctly that is comfortable for you and that provides good protection.
While all masks and respirators provide some level of protection, properly fitted respirators provide the highest level of protection. Wearing a highly protective mask or respirator may be most important for certain higher risk situations, or by some people at increased risk for severe disease.
Like I said - it may work as a prophylactic. May. But one study with high correlation doesn't a strong case make. I hope we get further peer reviewed science on many of these questions.
I think your analysis is shrewd and likely right, but it doesn't mean Putin can't get what he wants domestically out of this:
In Moscow's view, repeated in nearly every newscast and talk show, Ukraine is a failed state entirely controlled by the "puppet master" -- the United States. Europe is a weak and divided collection of lap dogs taking orders from Washington. Even the US, as frighteningly threatening as it is, is weak and divided too, torn apart by political division and racial unrest.
But wait. How can those powers be a threat -- and be weak at the same time? That's one of the conundrums of Russian state propaganda. Thinking things through isn't what they're trying to encourage. Rather they're trying to raise the blood pressure of their viewers -- and to make them very afraid.
Putin is a strongman who takes what he wants. Conservative white men admire that because its all they have left in a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural world.
They believe Democrats can better handle climate change (+22 points), racism (+20), health care (+16), bringing the country together (+9), coronavirus (+9) and education (+7).
By a one-point margin, voters favor the Republican candidate in their congressional district over the Democratic candidate (44-43%). Last month, Republicans were favored by four points.
What's really interesting is that Mr. Biden's approval rating is coming back up in that poll. As well as on each of the issues where Fox is measuring his approval. That's not a sign of a nation souring on the president or his party.
Then you have to build the industry to do the non-science bit. (Industrial Engineering is its own discipline).
This is where the reported slow downs/bottle necks exist and where the Administration can provide various incentives.
I'm also not sure what you mean by less effective:
During both delta and omicron periods, receipt of a third vaccine dose was highly effective (94 percent and 82 percent, respectively) at preventing COVID-19 emergency department and urgent care encounters and preventing hospitalizations (94 percent and 90 percent).
Nice to FINALLY see what appears to be peer reviewed science on this.
Three things stand out to me - first this is used as a prophylactic not a treatment. Second, this is a prescribed dose under routine medical monitoring. That's vastly different then ordering it off Amazon and trying to mix a dose in your kitchen. Third - we still need to be cautious. The Journal is a relatively new open access journal with a really low impact factor - meaning its work is not cited by a lot of other journals, and few really well respected scientists publish in it - yet.
I hope there is more peer reviewed science to come - we do need a variety of treatment and prophylactic options for this globally.
I'd say they are following the science since it appears that these treatments are less robust against Omicron then against Delta - which is probably what I had. I don't think this is unexpected, though I do think it means the Administration needs to lean harder on developing monoclonals that can be more easily adapted. Such a development would help move this from pandemic to endemic.
Tell me - when the dictatorship comes, and I get hauled off for reeducation, will you cheer? Will you gloat?
Because last I checked, I'm as real an American as you are, both by birth - or so the Constitution tells us - and by my desire to see a better stronger America.
71% of Americans want Congress to keep investigating the attack. 41% approves of the job the president is doing. I know its hard to conceive, but Americans - all of us - are capable of holding both those beliefs at the same time.
The fact you continue to believe libs aren't aren't real Americans is telling.
That aside, "real Americans" do care:
Seventy-six percent said it was a protest that went too far, 63% an effort to overthrow the election and keep Trump in power, 55% an insurrection, and 54% an attempted overthrow of the US government.
In the AP/NORC poll, 71% said Congress should continue its investigation into what happened
In the CBS News/YouGov poll, 67% said Congress should be investigating elected representatives and other public officials to see if they had a role in the events.
You don't get to those sort of numbers with just libs, whether liberals are real Americans or not (hint - they are).
I got it after being fully vaccinated but not boosted. I spent the first 24 hours in bed - before I got tested - and then about 14 hours after until my session of monoclinal antibodies. That stuff worked - which was good because 48 hours after I got them, Hurricane Ida came a wooshing overhead, and I needed to be mostly there for it.
I'm part of a voluntary study Johns Hopkins is doing on longitudinal outcomes of COVID so I get surveyed every quarter on my symptoms etc. That will be very interesting when it's published.
Long-Covid is a thing, as are a whole host of post-infection problems. Like you, many of those problems occurred in individuals who were not vaccinated. One of the things that's really worrying form a public health perspective is whether, and to what degree, those long term side effects will present after Omicron.
I mean, I have gotten more pushback on my saying “I resent when leadership defects even though I am cooperating” than I have seen leadership get for defecting.
WHICH IS WEIRD.
From whom did you expect that "leadership" to get pushback? Gov. Newsome got recalled for his handling of COVID - which while laughably unsuccessful as a politicla maneuver is still not a null data set.
I'm aware, and that a lot of places are tracking outbreaks by sampling municipal sewage. Which has also been widely reported . . . I sure would love to know where you are going with this?
The harm is he does it again. And again. And again. Plus he can introduce legislation - he did so on his voting rights alternative. Which the Republicans he kept negotiating with promptly filibustered.
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Equally importantly both manufacturers agree with the FDA assessment. So DeSantis is really out on a shakey limb here.
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I find it maddening that the people screaming the loudest about the lack of a COVID plan form the Administration keep trying to hamstring the Administration by litigating rule making like this.
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Indeed they can. The Administration chose to go the emergency route because we have an ongoing public health emergency. Now they may have to decide if they want to do the normal rulemaking - which would be a two year gig.
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Race, wealth, and class are inextricably linked in the US. Discussing failed understandings of wealth, earnings, and Socioeconomic status that ignore race are not likely to do much to get at the root of the problem.
https://www.apa.org/pi/ses/resources/publications/minorities#:~:text=The%20relationship%20between%20SES%2C%20race,SES%2C%20race%2C%20and%20ethnicity.
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That comports with this selection that there's a possible prophylactic effect BFORE getting COVID. I agree the numbers are not great, and I agree that people seem to have this weird motivated reasoning - as you rightly note - to avoid the thing that works. You and I very much agree on this.
At the same time, on of my longstanding criticisms is that a lot of this voodoo lacks peer review. Which it does. SO when we see what appears to be solid peer review I think its worth noting positively.
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Anything is possible - very little is probable.
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Sure, but that takes years since it requires hundreds to thousands of governing agencies at all levels to approve and disseminate. With almost 900K Americans dead in two years I don't know that we can wait that long.
Again, No:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/types-of-masks.html
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The manufacturers disagree with Florida:
https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1486036940638019584?s=20
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Like I said - it may work as a prophylactic. May. But one study with high correlation doesn't a strong case make. I hope we get further peer reviewed science on many of these questions.
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I think your analysis is shrewd and likely right, but it doesn't mean Putin can't get what he wants domestically out of this:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/25/europe/ukraine-nato-russia-coverage-tv-media-cmd-intl/index.html
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Putin is a strongman who takes what he wants. Conservative white men admire that because its all they have left in a multi-ethnic, multi-cultural world.
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You need to get out more:
https://static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2022/01/Fox_January-16-19-2022_Complete_National_Topline_January-23-Release.pdf
What's really interesting is that Mr. Biden's approval rating is coming back up in that poll. As well as on each of the issues where Fox is measuring his approval. That's not a sign of a nation souring on the president or his party.
Nice try though.
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This is where the reported slow downs/bottle necks exist and where the Administration can provide various incentives.
I'm also not sure what you mean by less effective:
https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/public-health/covid-19-vaccine-booster-effectiveness-against-omicron-12-cdc-findings.html#:~:text=During%20both%20delta%20and%20omicron,94%20percent%20and%2090%20percent).
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Nice to FINALLY see what appears to be peer reviewed science on this.
Three things stand out to me - first this is used as a prophylactic not a treatment. Second, this is a prescribed dose under routine medical monitoring. That's vastly different then ordering it off Amazon and trying to mix a dose in your kitchen. Third - we still need to be cautious. The Journal is a relatively new open access journal with a really low impact factor - meaning its work is not cited by a lot of other journals, and few really well respected scientists publish in it - yet.
I hope there is more peer reviewed science to come - we do need a variety of treatment and prophylactic options for this globally.
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I'd say they are following the science since it appears that these treatments are less robust against Omicron then against Delta - which is probably what I had. I don't think this is unexpected, though I do think it means the Administration needs to lean harder on developing monoclonals that can be more easily adapted. Such a development would help move this from pandemic to endemic.
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Wow.
Just, wow.
Tell me - when the dictatorship comes, and I get hauled off for reeducation, will you cheer? Will you gloat?
Because last I checked, I'm as real an American as you are, both by birth - or so the Constitution tells us - and by my desire to see a better stronger America.
71% of Americans want Congress to keep investigating the attack. 41% approves of the job the president is doing. I know its hard to conceive, but Americans - all of us - are capable of holding both those beliefs at the same time.
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In this you and I agree - and no matter what Mitch McConnel hints at there won't be a warm welcome for him the today's GOP.
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The fact you continue to believe libs aren't aren't real Americans is telling.
That aside, "real Americans" do care:
You don't get to those sort of numbers with just libs, whether liberals are real Americans or not (hint - they are).
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bowmanmarsico/2022/01/05/new-polls-on-january-6/?sh=7dcd5a8c1816
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I got it after being fully vaccinated but not boosted. I spent the first 24 hours in bed - before I got tested - and then about 14 hours after until my session of monoclinal antibodies. That stuff worked - which was good because 48 hours after I got them, Hurricane Ida came a wooshing overhead, and I needed to be mostly there for it.
I'm part of a voluntary study Johns Hopkins is doing on longitudinal outcomes of COVID so I get surveyed every quarter on my symptoms etc. That will be very interesting when it's published.
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Long-Covid is a thing, as are a whole host of post-infection problems. Like you, many of those problems occurred in individuals who were not vaccinated. One of the things that's really worrying form a public health perspective is whether, and to what degree, those long term side effects will present after Omicron.
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From whom did you expect that "leadership" to get pushback? Gov. Newsome got recalled for his handling of COVID - which while laughably unsuccessful as a politicla maneuver is still not a null data set.
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As yes, filtration vs. masks.
Bazinga!
Or some such . . . since we apparently can't do this and, we must all do this or . . . .
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I'm aware, and that a lot of places are tracking outbreaks by sampling municipal sewage. Which has also been widely reported . . . I sure would love to know where you are going with this?
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The harm is he does it again. And again. And again. Plus he can introduce legislation - he did so on his voting rights alternative. Which the Republicans he kept negotiating with promptly filibustered.
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Troll on brother man, troll on.