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David Thornton is a freelance writer and professional pilot who has also lived in Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas. He is a graduate of the University of Georgia and Emmanuel College. He is Christian conservative/libertarian who was fortunate enough to have seen Ronald Reagan in person during his formative years. A former contributor to The Resurgent, David now writes for the Racket News with fellow Resurgent alum, Steve Berman, and his personal blog, CaptainKudzu. He currently lives with his wife and daughter near Columbus, Georgia. His son is serving in the US Air Force. You can find him on Twitter @CaptainKudzu and Facebook.

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  1. Philip H
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    This is just another distraction from his consolidation of power over Congress and the courts. It’s performative.

    And you fell for it.Report

  2. Jaybird
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    I’m trying to think if *ANYBODY* likes the idea of American Gaza. *ANYBODY*.Report

    • Slade the Leveller in reply to Jaybird
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      I can think of one.Report

    • Marchmaine in reply to Jaybird
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      Yeah, I haven’t seen any yet.

      Funniest I saw was John Podheretz owning the maximalist Neo-Con a**hole blogger mantle saying, ‘WTF’

      I mean, you can steelman Tariffs and argue whether he’s using his threat to get real or fake concessions… but so far I haven’t seen anyone steelman the fallback position…

      … just pictures of Suzie Wiles losing her mind.

      But, I’m sure there are people working on retconning a plan as we speak.Report

      • Marchmaine in reply to Marchmaine
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        Here’s my *guess* at how they might reframe it.

        US becomes a third-party (perhaps with other parties) guarantor of a ‘population exchange’ plan where the US commits XX(X) $Bs for relocation, resettlement and rebuild. Gaza become a multi-party re-development zone with, say, Saudis, Qatar, Egypt, etc.

        Evan that would be a WTF proposal – especially if you announced it without the Saudis, Qatari, Egyptians, etc. already on-board — which they aren’t.

        So, yeah, interesting to see how this morphs.

        Possibly we frame it as the Steel Dock recovery act… and just never leave. 🙂Report

      • Jaybird in reply to Marchmaine
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        There are a handful of fallback plans that make sense to me…

        1. Ethnic Cleansing and give Gaza to Israel. “From the River to the Sea! Well, the sea part is now covered.”

        I mean, hey. Sometimes you’ve got a really unpleasant religious minority in your midst and the best solution long-term is to get rid of them.

        2. Okay, you can stay… but, seriously, this is the last of the last chances. Calm the hell down, quit shooting rockets, and, for God’s sake, quit shooting your critics in the middle of the damned street.

        3. Oh, you don’t like *MY* solution? Come up with your own that won’t make me say “yeah, I prefer waterfront real estate to this” and will continue to not make me say that.

        But each of those involves other people acting in their own perceived best interest and so I can’t imagine that anyone in the region will do that of their own volition.Report

        • North in reply to Jaybird
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          I mean Egypt and Jordan really really really won’t take the Gazan population in voluntarily. Jordan already suffered one regime threatening event due to Palestinian populations in their midst and Egypt is not exactly a stable government either to say nothing of how the Jordanians and Egyptian populations would absolutely hate it.

          I don’t think this is something Trump could cajole or browbeat either state into doing. It’d be like offering someone escalating dollar amounts to slit their own throat- there’s not really a dollar amount that would do it.

          I mean, the only scheme I could see potentially working is the Israeli’s just start scooping up Gazans and ship them into Syria- the Syrian state is so nascent, weak and unstable they probably couldn’t stop them. It’d be expensive, difficult, a humanitarian fiasco and morally abhorrent but logistically I suppose in theory they could do it.Report

    • North in reply to Jaybird
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      Well the neocons mostly have been (rightfully) driven from the GOP due to Bush’s adventures in the middle east. I am utterly delighted at the irony that Trump, who made his bones eviscerating Bush and the neocons fish ups, is talking about prancing off down the exact same path.

      Trump must REALLY believe that Bibi held off on resolving the Gazan conflict to help out Trumps election chances* if he’s grateful enough to even talk about doing something like this. Then again he did just talk to Bibi so that could simply be who is pulling his strings at the moment.

      I do not, however, see how Trump could pull off going into Gaza without congressional buy in. It’d be expensive as fish.

      *I’m agnostic on whether Bibi actually did but I do believe that Bibi is easily wily enough to suggest as much in private to Trump and that Trump is a big enough idiot to believe it.Report

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