30 thoughts on “Be Excellent To Each Other

  1. I don’t know; I haven’t seen it. I’d assume that any artist who composed something with people along a table (apparently on one side of the table) would have the Leonardo image in his mind. But the Olympics go back to pagan Greece, so who knows? France may be so removed from Christendom at this point that they don’t even think about it. I don’t know. I have no emotional connection to the Olympics either, so I probably come down exactly where you are about all this.Report

    1. If anything, I’ve seen more people upset that they missed their chance to dunk on the Idiot God-Cultists than I’ve seen people genuinely upset about the imagery. Most people seem to just figure that it’s more Olympic Opening Ceremony Weirdness, which has a long and glorious tradition.Report

    2. I don’t know how representative they are, but Evangelical Facebook is still posting about it, though they’ve gone from 100% “The Olympics are the devil” to like 50% “I’m boycotting the Olympics” and 50% to what they were doing before, talking about how stupid they think Harris is, and that they believe she slept her way to the top.Report

      1. I just spent 10 minutes scrolling and I saw a grand total of two posts.

        One explaining what “La Cène Sur Un Scène Sur La Seine” translates to and another explaining that, really, it was about Dionysus.

        To be honest, if I really wanted to downplay and deny that there was any connection to The Last Supper with the skit, I’d write an essay that doesn’t mention the name of the skit even once.Report

        1. Scrolling Twitter or Facebook? If you’re looking for Evangelicals, it’s gotta be Facebook. If you scroll through Evangelicals’ Facebook posts, you’ll find plenty in the last 24 hours.Report

          1. My cousins are on there. Yes, even the Florida one.

            I’ve seen picture after picture of kids getting ready to go back to school soon, can’t believe they’re this tall already, and a whole bunch of MLM stuff. (Would you like to buy a candle?)Report

            1. I see meme after meme, man.

              My dad (an Evangelical) posted two posts earlier this week, one arguing that the thing everyone’s pissed about wasn’t what they’re pissed about, and one sharing his pastor’s substack post arguing that even if it was what so many of them think it was, they shouldn’t hate, because it’s un-Christian, and folks from his Church and elsewhere in conservative Tennessee are still in there arguing that it was what they say it was, and that they should definitely hate. So yeah, they’re still pissed.Report

              1. I’ve seen plenty of people argue that others shouldn’t be mad.

                Heck, I’ve seen plenty of people argue that “La Cène Sur Un Scène Sur La Seine” should not be translated as “The Last Supper On A Stage On The Seine”.

                What I haven’t seen are people, on July 31st, angry about The Last Supper On A Stage On The Seine.

                Now, I *HAVE* seen people be pissed off that other people are saying “It’s got nothing to do with The Last Supper!” but being irritated that one feels like one is being lied to one’s face is a different kind of mad than “they’re going out of their way to be the best 2012 r/Atheism posters they can be” irritation.

                That’s something else entirely.Report

              2. I’m not saying that people weren’t mad at the time.

                It makes sense to be mad at the time.

                But the moment passes and all we are left with are a bunch of essays explaining that it wasn’t The Last Supper On A Stage On The Seine but was instead the Dionysus painting.

                I get the idea that if any of these sophisticated art-explainers eventually see an art piece where dancers begin recreating one painting and end by recreating another, their minds will be *BLOWN*.

                “I didn’t know that such a magnificent idea was possible! You start off by showing one painting… AND THEN THE PIECE EVOLVES INTO ANOTHER HOLY CRAP THIS IS WHY I GOT AN ART DEGREE IN THE FIRST PLACE”.

                Huh. Maybe there’s some money to be made in this somewhere…Report

              3. Useful to consider in this discourse is the idea that if you said something and people assumed you meant something negative or critical by saying it, then it’s your own fault for not considering all the possible interpretations of your message.

                Like when you make a joke about “the beatings will continue until morale improves” and it’s interpreted as a paean to white supremacy.Report

              4. If that’s the definition of “mad” that we’re using, let me say that I have absolutely zero problem with people getting mad.

                What we need is a term for what I thought we were talking about when we were talking about people getting mad.Report

  2. I don’t have much to say about the Last Supper/Not Last Supper brouhaha, but Gojira played, and that was fishing awesome!Report

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