23 thoughts on “I Blame Gerald Ford

  1. Agreed. Ford’s decision in the end amounted to kicking the can down the road. Whatever the validity of the concerns that motivated it, we’re now dealing with the same issues again, and at a time when we might be actually less able to deal with them. Forcing this to come to a head honestly is the most prudent thing that can be done. I’m hopeful that TFG will go down in flames in November, but by itself I don’t think a lot will be solved long term.Report

  2. I supported the pardon at the time. Now I think it was a mistake. I think a better course would have been to let the investigations and prosecutions move forward, and pardon him after we knew clearly what he did.

    Nixon is the guy who first said, “If the president did it, that means it’s legal.” We needed to put that to rest, and we didn’t.Report

  3. True. Good stuff. Reagan nominating Bork was also a giant waving red flag. R’s learned the lesson they could get away with presidential corruption. Ford f’d up badly.Report

    1. Watergate.
      Bork
      Iran-Contra
      The Second Iraq invasion
      Garland

      The GOP has internalized that the system doesn’t stand up well to people who don’t care about the system. Democrats still can’t grok people who don’t care about the system.Report

      1. This is just drawing a line connecting things you don’t like.

        With The Second Iraq invasion, Bush went to the people, made his case, and got Congress to approve it. This was following the system. What to do about Sadam was a thing and there were no good options.

        Garland was a political reality that was first observed by Biden decades earlier.

        Iran-Contra was illegal but Reagan literally couldn’t remember the details because of dementia. I think several people went to jail over that one so there’s that.

        Watergate cost Nixon his Presidency because the senior GOP leaders told him he was going to be removed from office. The bulk of the “Watergate 7” did Time over it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_Seven

        Bork I don’t understand the point you’re making. He didn’t make it to the Supreme Court but not because of Watergate.Report

    2. It was members of the GOP who told (really forced) Nixon to resign or be removed from office.

      This would have happened to Trump except he (amazingly) didn’t lose his base.

      If we had arrested Nixon, the lesson Trump would have learned is he needs to stay in office or he’ll be arrested.Report

      1. Had Nixon been convicted (either in impeachment or criminally) the lesson the GOP would have learned is to not nominate crooks just because it helps them achieve their ends. Trump was able to foist himself on the party through a plurality of voters precisely because no such lesson had been taught.Report

  4. I remember hearing, and believing, the theory that to indict and try a former President would “tear the country apart”.

    In my defense, I was 14 and the idea of such cataclysmic event was frightening.

    Nowadays I call that the “peasant mentality” where it is assumed we citizens are children who need to be shielded from difficult events and choices.

    What Trump has proved though, is that we aren’t. Nothing will “tear the country apart”. We have survived terror attacks, an insurrection, and a convicted fraud and rapist running for President and still we go on.
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  5. All right. I’ve had it.

    I cannot stand it any more.

    The phrase is “REIN him in,” not “REIGN” him in.

    “Reign” is a verb, meaning to rule over or to govern, as would a king or an emperor.

    “Rein,” when used as a verb, means to control or restrain, as in using the reins of a set of tackle on a horse.

    Trump is not daring America to “reign him in,” because he does not want to be ruled by America. He wants to RULE America; he wants to REIGN OVER America. Trump is daring us to REIN him in, to put some kind of a restraint on the outrageous, awful, destructive, terrible, very bad things that he keeps on doing.

    I’ve seen this mistake in many posts over many months now.

    REIN.Report

      1. They did impeach TFG. Twice. They failed to convict both times.

        If we are going to split hairs about REINing someone, this also matters.

        Actually it matters more. Because TFG was impeached twice. Clinton only once. YMMV on what that means . . . .Report

  6. I know you think calling Trump “TFG” is somehow a diss, but it sure comes off like you think he’s so powerful that you have to make up special names to handle him mentally.

    I really do not understand the strategy of proving how little you think of someone by proving you think about them so much you even make up nicknames for them.Report

    1. I don’t think Silhus made up “TFG,” or that he claims to have. The nickname has been around for years. Sometimes an insult is only an insult, and who among us. present company very much included is above it?Report

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