Thursday Throughput: Decongestant Edition
[ThTh1] About bloody time (gift link)
An advisory panel to the Food and Drug Administration agreed unanimously on Tuesday that a common decongestant ingredient used in many over-the-counter cold medicines is ineffective.
The panel’s vote tees up a likely decision by the agency on whether to essentially ban the ingredient, phenylephrine, which would result in pulling hundreds of products containing it from store shelves.
If the F.D.A. ordered their removal, a trade group warned that numerous popular products — including Tylenol, Mucinex and Benadryl cold and flu remedies — might become unavailable as companies race to reformulate them.
Agency officials generally follow the recommendations of the advisory panels, though not always, and it could take some months before a final decision is made. And the findings could be contested, prolonging any move toward product substitutions or removing certain stock at stores.
In the meantime, experts advised consumers not to panic or toss out all the drugs in their medicine cabinet. Even though the agency’s advisers have decided the ingredient, phenylephrine, doesn’t work to relieve nasal congestion when taken orally, it is not dangerous, and the products do contain other ingredients that will work to ease cold symptoms.
My response to this can not be printed in these family-friendly pages. Studies have shown that phenylephrine, while having other medical uses, is completely useless as a decongestant, since at least 2007. Consumers have been complaining for 16 years that stuff didn’t work. The only reason it was foisted on us in the first place was because of restrictions on pseudoephedrine. Pseudoephedrine is very effective as a decongestant but can also be used a precursor to the manufacture of methamphetamine. Therefore, state and federal governments, in their long-standing practice of responding to criminal activity by punishing innocent people, responding to the early 2000’s meth epidemic by imposing various restrictions on pseudoephedrine sales.
While there was an immediate drop in meth use immediately after the passage of the CMEA in 2005, it has since rebounded. There is little evidence that restricting pseudoephedrine availability cut meth use at all. At most, it moved the manufacturer to Mexico. In the meantime, 16 years later, here was are, a nation of 330 million people sniffing, snarking and snorting snot because a drug that has never demonstrated efficacy beyond placebo was foisted upon us as a replacement for a drug that actually, you know worked.
The panel’s advice is, as the name on the label suggests, advisory. The FDA is free to ignore it and will no doubt be under pressure from drug manufacturers desperate to have something, anything in their medicine they can remotely call a decongestant even if its decongesting powers are so slightly greater than inhaling mouse farts.1
[ThTh2] Speaking of junk science, don’t throw away your iPhone 12. French authorities have found that, out of 140 phones, one phone emits slightly more non-harmful radiation than it should. Which is still harmless.
[ThTh3] So what has JWST been up to lately? Oh, nothing. Just parsing the atmosphere of planets dozens of light years away.
[ThTh4] Interestingly, orgasm does not use nerve pathway associated with pleasure, but with pain.
[ThTh5] I can’t vouch for the accuracy, but here is an amazing look at what the Aztec city of Tenochtitlan might have looked like.
[ThTh6] Color me extremely skeptical that we’ve found the remains of an alien spaceship in the ocean.
[ThTh7] I hate to say I told you so but … wait, a minute. I don’t hate saying that. I like saying I told you so (short version of that link: paper straws may be worse for the environment than plastic ones).
Eh. They weren’t wrong. Ephedrine and pseudoephedrine were absolutely being used to make methamphetamin.
The thing about prohibition is that it works. Maybe there’s a bunch of secondary effects we don’t like, but it does do the thing it’s supposed to do: vastly reduce usage of the prohibited item. The Volstead Act reduced alcohol consumption in America by ninety percent, and after its repeal the character and volume of drinking was vastly different than before (alcohol before the Volstead Act was the kind of place we now see occupied by, well, meth and fentanyl…)
So, the first thing you have to deal with when criticizing prohibition is the fact that prohibition doesn’t not work.Report
I would be somewhat pleased to hear that phenylephrine cold products be forced to say “this product’s active ingredient works about as well as Luden’s Wild Cherry Cough Drops (Active Ingredient: Pectin)” somewhere on the front of the box.
But effectively banning? There are a handful of people who benefit from placebo!
A year ago, I was talking with the pharmacist as I was picking something up and I mentioned reading a paper on how to make cold medicine from meth. “He said ‘Wait, do you mean making meth from cold medicine?'” and I saw him grow apprehensive (like he had to be a mandatory reporter or something) and I said “No. It’s easy to get meth. They sell it at Acacia Park. It’s hard to get cold medicine.”
He laughed like I had just made his day.Report
I would likewise be pleased of the medical and pharmaceutical establishments took some plain language training and started using it like normal people. “Congestion” is, medically, swelling of tissues in response to infection. “Congestion” anecdotally is too much mucus in your nose. While there may be swelling AND too much mucus together in the same disease process, lots of people take a “decongestant” to deal with the mucus issue and not the swelling issue – because the mucus is is the one they can see. That right there causes a lot of complaining about lack of effectiveness.Report
I don’t find going to the pharmacist to get pseudoephedrine that inconvenient, let alone punitive. I would probably find mask mandates as posing a similar degree of inconvenience. On the other hand, I don’t think masks, at least the kinds I had access to, are very effective and tried my best to never rely upon them before I was fully vaccinated. Meth is pretty easy to make — about twenty years ago a federal public defender explained how to make it at a party I was at, so it’s so easy a lawyer can make it. The notion that the regulation of pseudoephedrine has no benefit because now meth is being made outside of the country is based upon the premise that demand is entirely inelastic, which might be true for addicts, but the concern should be focused on limiting access to first use.Report
“I don’t find going to the pharmacist to get pseudoephedrine that inconvenient, let alone punitive.”
You can’t go to the pharmacist without a prescription, and you can’t get a prescription without a doctor visit, and if it’s eight PM and you have work tomorrow and the kid’s screaming that he hates his homework you really haven’t got the doctor as an option.Report
It doesn’t require a prescription. It just requires you interact with an actual human who is paying attention and who will let someone willing to show/log photo ID buy one box but won’t let someone refusing to do so buy 40 boxes.
I’ve bought it several times from behind the counter without a script. In fact, I didn’t even know you could buy the altered stuff off the shelf.Report
It varies from state-to-state. In a couple of states you do need a prescription. In others, you are restricted to how much you can buy in 30 days. In most, you will not be able to get it outside of pharmacist hours.Report
Interesting! I’m in NJ and am trying to remember how I bought it… I have memories at both the pharmacy counter and getting it from behind the main check out. But sounds like it is easier here than elsewhere so everyone’s mileage would seem to vary. Thanks.Report
In Colorado Springs, it’s behind the counter.
Like, you have to go to the pharmacist, give him your driver’s license, he’ll write your details into a special book, you’ll have to sign under the special details, and then you can purchase your box of Sudafed.
It’s like voting, kinda.Report
That sounds like my experience. I go to a drug store chain, take a card for the pseudoephedrine product off a shelf and give it to the pharmacist. They will sell it to me after I insert my driver’s license into the same card reader that I will use for my credit card and sign on the screen. It’s basically like doing a credit/debit card transaction twice.Report
I take regular OTC Benadryl exclusively as a sleep aid.
Knocks my ass out every time.Report
I asked the nurse for a sleep aid for my wife once when she was in the hospital. The nurse brought two Benedryl. The nurse said if there was real truth in labeling, it would be marked as a sleep aid with a side effect of maybe helping your allergy symptoms. I keep a bottle of them in the medicine box for those occasions when I wake up in the middle of the night — I’m an old man, so that’s not exactly uncommon — and can’t get back to sleep.Report
We just call them the ‘pink pills’ and know that using them means the day is over.Report
When you get a benadryl IV, it’s a bad day for allergies.Report
My problem with the decongestants that work is the rebound. I will use one occasionally if I need to get my sinuses unclogged in order to do a presentation. After a few hours, the congestion always comes back worse than it was before.Report
And phenylephrine was used as a replacement for pseudoephedrine because … they rhyme?Report