36 thoughts on “I’m Worried About the Gadsden Flag Kid

  1. “Drugs, alcohol, sex, and virulent racism” actually sounds like what both sides are into these days, although one of them involves more crossdressing.Report

      1. Slight misread. It’s more that with all the talk about parent’s rights, which I broadly support, I would (naively) expect more people to put their money where their mouth is.Report

      2. Hardly. The conservative parents here in College Station aren’t playing with a full bag of marbles. In fact, a lot of them are playing with an empty bag.Report

    1. Yes, I am. I said much the same about Greta Thunberg. Hogg was two months away from being 18 when he became famous, so it’s a little different. Still destructive, but he was making an informed choice as a near-adult.Report

      1. Also, he was faced with a situation where he could have ended up dead, and he is trying to prevent other kids from facing the same situation. The kid with the patch wasn’t facing anything even close to the same. If the school hadn’t made an issue of it, nothing would have happened. There is a big difference between a 12 year old wearing a patch and an 18 year old surviving a school shooting. As for Greta, she’s way more mature than the vast majority of the people criticizing her.Report

        1. Fair points!

          Greta has turned into a mature activist (though I do not agree with her at all), but I did not like the way adults were using her when she first started (age 15/16).Report

  2. I’m remembering a great comment from a few months back.

    “Quit making wild pitches and they’ll quit stealing bases.”

    The teachers were dumb, the administration was dumb, and the kid pushed a point and got what appears to be a pyrrhic victory. Well, for himself. He got minor (non-phrrhic?) victories across the nation and, I’m sure, started a trend for Middle School backpacks everywhere.

    This part: “Teachers, rightly or wrongly, are not happy with the student.”

    This strikes me as where the problem is likely to fester. I mean, assuming they can’t be trusted to put any prejudices aside. They probably can, though. Professionals would.Report

    1. It’s funny how parents are supposed to believe that teachers with clear political agendas posting TikToks about how they love indoctrinating their students are absolute professionals who would never ever let their feelz affect their in-class behavior and yet somehow the author of this piece is wringing his hands about whether the teachers can set aside their prejudices because a kid stuck a sticker on their backpack.

      Which is it? Are teachers impartial, impeachable professionals who would never let their personal opinions affect their ability to teach, or are they lunatics who cannot control themselves when faced with a tiny piece of cloth??Report

      1. You have a point. In my schooling through grad school, the teachers and professors who were most emphatic about indoctrinating us were right wing to far right wing. One of the worst was one who spent the whole semester lecturing about how going off the gold standard was going to destroy the country and if that didn’t happen, the protesters against the Viet Nam war would destroy us. This was a course in science.

        The others were less obvious, but it was still there.Report

    2. There was a great deal of Discourse back in the Covington Catholic thing about how that one kid was Very Clearly Smiling Smugly Because He Knew He Was Making The Grownups Mad.

      And, y’know. Looking at the pictures of this kid? That is a kid who is Smiling Smugly Because He Knows He Is Making The Grownups Mad.Report

    3. It was a charter school.

      Seems to me like the parents could simply have chosen to enroll their kid in a different school if they didn’t approve of the current one.Report

  3. In this case, I side with the kid.

    There isnt anything inflammatory about the Gadsden flag that warrants such a response. For the record, I’d say the same if it was a rainbow flag.Report

    1. If you look at the pictures, you see that the kid’s backpack is covered with right-wing-Online references, so what’s happening here is that the teacher was trying to squelch a shit-starter (an important part of classroom management, and one which I fully support) but felt like school policy required that there be an objective reason to do it, and they weren’t smart enough to game out the rubber after playing the Racism card.Report

  4. I agree with your observations that being at the center of this is not good for kids in general but it is going to be more common in our increasingly negative partisan driven future. Kids make great political theatre unfortunately. The teacher here was being incredibly dumb with her reasoning.

    Interestingly, I did not hear about this particular tempest in a teapot until your post.Report

  5. I can see how at least some liberals are going to be turned off by the Gadsden Flag since it is being adopted rapidly by the Right as a symbol of limited government or whatever. Since college educated liberals tend to be very skeptical about the meaning of symbols and ceremony, they are also often too quick to concede them.Report

    1. Fifteen years ago, there was a large yard I used to drive past that had five flags flying: two current American, one Confederate, one Gadsden, and one Israeli.Report

  6. I’m wondering if association the Gadsden Flag is indirectly something that comes from the 1619 project. There is a growing but erroneous pop culture idea that the American Revolution was all about preserving slavery in certain quarters of the online left. Therefore, anything related to the American Revolution is a de facto symbol of slavery and white supremacy because reasons. It is basically Bearded Spock American Exceptionalism.Report

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