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Derek S in reply to Chris

What does that have to do with this?

Be accurate.

Dark Matter in reply to Saul Degraw

The problem with taking him "seriously and literally" is he says everything on every issue, sometime even in the same speech.

Saul Degraw in reply to North
+ You can't use normal political thinking with Trump or anyone around him. That is a big part of the reason we are in this mess. [. . .]
+ Dude, it's awesome that you found that. I couldn't get past Google explaining to me that I couldn't vape indoors and those things didn't exist [. . .]
North in reply to Saul Degraw
+ I, more than Chait, clearly overestimated the Trumpkins. The choice to simply claim prosperity was Trumps doing rather than go down as the one who [. . .]
Saul Degraw
+ Whenever I post, I get sent to a message like this: Warning: Undefined variable $a in /home/ordina27/public_html/wp-load.php on line 18 Warning: Undefined variable $a in /home/ordina27/public_html/wp-load.php on [. . .]
Saul Degraw in reply to North
+ Does Chait know who we are talking about? These aren't very bright people, they are fanatically committed ideologues, radicalized incels, etc. They think they have [. . .]
Kolohe
+ probably Niels Juul an Illinois state senator at the time and later a us representative. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Juul might also have been on the mind of Briggs because his [. . .]
LeeEsq in reply to Saul Degraw

It's watching the Oh Crap trope from TV tropes in real time:

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/OhCrap

Yes, using exports-imports divided by imports, then dividing that by 2, is much more scientific than using AI.

North
+ Something Chait muses about over at the Atlantic and something I'd agonized about right after the election in November, was that this is a historically [. . .]
+ I was going to do that too, but I have a decent amount of unrealized gains and was worried about the tax impact… then just [. . .]
North in reply to Slade the Leveller
+ In theory congress could knock this whole flaming edifice of feces down. The law Trump is using to impose these tariffs obligates Congress to weigh [. . .]

Good for you and really good thinking. I wonder how many people got wiped out because they never thought he'd actually do it.

Slade the Leveller in reply to InMD
+ I'm looking at retirement in the next couple of years, so I switched to mostly cash a few weeks back. The last time we saw anything [. . .]
Saul Degraw

Apparently Trump fired three National Security people because Laura Loomer told him to do so.

InMD in reply to North
+ Oh for sure, I'm in the same boat. Not planning on looking at my 401(k) until approximately 2029 but I've got at least twenty [. . .]
North in reply to InMD
+ The people I feel for are older folks nearing retirement or depending on investments for fixed income. The stock market, surely, is going to crater [. . .]
Derek S in reply to LeeEsq

Here is a better article explaining how the tariffs were calculated.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/how-trump-came-up-with-his-reciprocal-tariff-formula-145530164.html

Are we seriously trying to pawn off angry Twitter/Blue Sky/whatever tweet system as real news?

+ Here's the Denver Gazette. Here's where CBS News announced that a judge gave an emergency order to close the apartments due to them being an "immediate [. . .]
DavidTC in reply to DavidTC

Or, alternately, we're just doing it on purpose:

https://bsky.app/profile/onestpress.bsky.social/post/3lluyzh2sdc23

That's why we elected Trump, to start a war with China.

Sihlus
+ The Aurora apartment takeover was confirmed? Not calling out, just genuinely interested in the outcome (work in Aurora and the whole thing honestly seemed exaggerated, [. . .]
InMD in reply to Saul Degraw
+ It's only sane if you believe it's going to result in major reinvestment in low skill manufacturing in the US, so things may be (way) [. . .]
Saul Degraw

CNBC is apparently in chaos: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9ef443b5c6e85f291367708a9d52f32b6c6ac4d3746241a8b3f6a8de6d98d682.jpg

Saul Degraw
+ I can't even with this sane washing: "Trump’s Tariffs Are Latest Sign of His Second-Term Appetite for Risk President Trump’s announcement went beyond most predictions, showing [. . .]
DavidTC in reply to Michael Cain
+ Yes, the official premise at this point is we will talk about Taiwan and China as if they were one entity, while we do things [. . .]

Old school 1970’s Argentinian president but yes.

Dark Matter in reply to Brandon Berg

Thank you. That's a wonderful summation.

Brandon Berg

It's kind of weird how Argentina got an American President and we got an Argentinian President.

InMD in reply to North
+ Yea I don't can't decide whether I want the rest of the world to take it in stride in light of Trump's own propensity to [. . .]
+ One China in theory, two in practice. For example, Taiwan has long had permission to buy almost leading edge US weapons systems that China [. . .]
North in reply to InMD
+ It's a new height of idiocy from a dude who already was setting new records for it. He even, fishing, tariffed the Israeli's after they [. . .]
InMD in reply to Saul Degraw

alienate long standing allies + massive regressive tax increase + self imposed recession + ????? = America great again

DavidTC in reply to LeeEsq
+ Fun fact that the American Media has not noticed but China sure as hell has: The tariffs list Taiwan as a separate country from China. [. . .]

That seems plausible, sicne their estimates of the tariffs each country is putting on the US are way off.

LeeEsq

The new tariffs seem to have be set by AI:

https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:h3bil6wi4j2odx5exizuwh3j/post/3llunnyfeoj2v?ref_src=embed&ref_url=https%253A%252F%252Fwww.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com%252F2025%252F04%252Fai-will-doom-us-all

Saul Degraw in reply to InMD

Here is the Treasury Secretary freaking out: https://bsky.app/profile/fffanatic06.bsky.social/post/3lluhbzuxas2v

CNN accurately descrubed it as a 6 trillion dollar tax on Americans

Marchmaine in reply to InMD
+ On this 'liberation day' I'm reminded of Norm's clip about going to war ... with the World.Maybe just start with a hemisphere or some ripe [. . .]
InMD
+ Well here comes the big f- you to working families everywhere. I predict hard lessons are about to be learned when everything gets way [. . .]
Dark Matter in reply to Jaybird
+ It's also right after we were breathlessly and repeatedly told Biden was showing no signs of age. The other massive issue is: How big a problem [. . .]

Sure, but that's all Engineer Level 3 and up kinda stuff.

I'm talking about AI replacing helpers.

LeeEsq in reply to Jaybird
+ The Bar Associations still control access to the courts through licensing and since most legislators have a lawyer background, that isn't going away. Plus the [. . .]
Saul Degraw

Trump rambles about tariffs on everyone and pulls numbers out his behind.

+ One of the big problems that is going to have to be overcome is the whole "that's not true! That's a conspiracy theory!" thing. Remember when [. . .]
Dark Matter in reply to David TC
+ It's more vague that just "8". "...if a person scores 8 points or higher based on symbolism but has no points from other categories [. . .]
 

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