20 thoughts on “Thursday Throughput: Doomsday Rock Edition

  1. I asked about this on the video but I’m still confused. I’m sure you’ve seen this map of the most likely places for the asteroid to hit:

    I’m confused about how there’s, apparently, a 2% chance for the asteroid to hit or miss the planet but, if it its, we’re relatively confident that Canada is safe.

    If the asteroid could miss the planet entirely, it also strikes me that, if it hits the planet, it could hit pretty much anywhere. Maybe it’ll hit Australia, maybe it’ll hit Ireland, maybe it’ll hit the Caldera in Yellowstone and we’ll get one heck of a show.

    “Maybe it’ll hit, maybe it won’t, but if it does, it’ll be around the equator and on this particular half of the planet” strikes me as putting all of the certainty in the wrong freakin’ place.Report

    1. Yeah, there’s a lot of uncertainty in that. The probability distribution is not even over the surface of the Earth — you can think of the possible course of the asteroid as being a long line that slice through the Earth along the red arc. But that shows a certainty that isn’t really warranted.Report

      1. Like, this is less “we’re absolutely certain that it’ll be somewhere along the red line” and more “along the red line the probability is .02 percentage points higher than the rest of the planet”.Report

    2. I’m more interested in the angle the rock comes in at. Does it look like it comes straight in, or is it inclined at a significant angle? If the latter, from east-to-west or west-to-east? We had a bit of this discussion on a different post fairly recently. I argued that all of the drawings of the dinosaur-killer that showed it streaking across the sky were wrong; that the evidence suggested it came from the southeast but effectively straight in. At the velocities involved, the time from when the rock starts significantly interacting with the atmosphere and striking the ground (or air burst) is measured in seconds. Eg, 300 km at 17 km/sec is 17 sec and if you’re looking the wrong way you might miss it.

      I read this week that the people who worry about such things have decided the prior opinion that the big crater at the Moon’s south pole was a glancing strike is wrong, that it was basically straight in.Report

      1. Oof, yeah, that’s a good point too. Now I’m wondering how many calderas are somewhere on that line… okay. Preliminary glance says that the red line is pretty safe when it comes to popping one of the planet’s many zits.

        So if it’s coming straight on, we probably want to nudge it left a bit.

        If we have enough time, maybe we can have it hit the moon and throw it out of orbit and oh my god we’re all gonna dieReport

        1. If we have enough time, maybe we can have it hit the moon and throw it out of orbit…

          Run the relative masses, the velocities, the kinetic energy, the moon’s elasticity, etc. Maybe we get some interesting meteor showers. Maybe not. Lunar escape velocity is 2.4 km/sec.Report

  2. This sounds like it’s going to be political but it’s not intended to be.

    Trump put out an executive order today: ESTABLISHING THE PRESIDENT’S MAKE AMERICA HEALTHY AGAIN COMMISSION

    Here’s the part that grabbed me… under Section 2 Policy:

    (a) all federally funded health research should empower Americans through transparency and open-source data, and should avoid or eliminate conflicts of interest that skew outcomes and perpetuate distrust;

    Open source data?

    Like… that’s an unequivocal good thing? Right?Report

    1. I’m not sure how “conflicts of interest” could even exist for federally-funded research, but this is probably going to end up being “you now have to fill out and submit a form saying that no such conflict exists”, and if someone later thinks there’s a problem now they can hang that form around your neck and call you both a cheat and a liar.Report

      1. We’ve had COI regulations in place for all of the 23 years I’ve been a fed. A scientist, for instance, can’t serve on a selection panel for a program she has been funded by in the prior 5 years. It’s already routine.Report

    1. This is the usual behavior. At least implicit in Michael’s video — I don’t remember if he goes through the details or not — the typical scenario is for the probability to steadily increase to around 5%, then fairly abruptly go to something near zero. Wake me up when we go past 5%, because then things might be going to get interesting :^)Report

            1. They’re going to make your life miserable. The Simonyi Survey Telescope is due to come online this year. The primary mirror is 8.4 meters, the camera is 3.2 gigapixels, and one of the main missions is looking for near-Earth rocks like YR4. They expect to find lots of them.Report

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