Off With Their (Over)heads: Trump Administration at War with Public Health

Michael Siegel

Michael Siegel is an astronomer living in Pennsylvania. He blogs at his own site, and has written a novel.

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  1. Philip H
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    The universities would have been well served years ago to agree to mostly lower off campus rates for a lot of stuff.Report

  2. Jaybird
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    You know the thing where people complain about Donald Trump charging the Secret Service rent to use an office in Trump Tower or Mar-a-lago?

    The sputtering as they talk about the graft that is taking place by charging the Secret Service part of the electricity bill?

    I’m not asking if you agree or disagree, mind. I’m just asking if you see it and recognize the complaint and see how someone might think that Trump was pulling a fast one.Report

    • Michael Siegel in reply to Jaybird
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      I don’t think the objection was charging them rent. It was that he was way overcharging them, far beyond what the facilities cost. By comparison, overhead spending has to be documented pretty carefully.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to Michael Siegel
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        I definitely saw stuff of the form “Those people are there RISKING THEIR LIVES!!!” and so on. “If he doesn’t want secret service protection, he can just decline!!!”

        I’m honestly surprised that you didn’t see any of those.

        It was that he was way overcharging them, far beyond what the facilities cost.

        I compare to your saying “I work off-campus and pay a lower overhead rate by a significant amount.”

        I’m not entirely certain what stuff is supposed to cost nor what counts as “significant”.

        That said, there does seem to be a *LOT* of tip-for-tapping going on and if sunlight is going to result in this stuff looking bad, that’s not the fault of the person who opened the drapes.Report

        • DavidTC in reply to Jaybird
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          I like how you’re pretending the issue is ‘this stuff being exposed’ instead of ‘executive overstepping actual constitutional authority and also violating contracts’.

          Republicans are in charge of Congress. They can certainly set whatever rules they want here. They can even run on this issue if they want. In fact, there.are very few things that be Trump Administration has done that could not be done by legislation.

          But the executive can’t do this unilaterally, and it certainly can’t do it retroactively, breaking contracts.

          And, to be clear, grants are contracts. I have only been on the barest peripheral of dealing with grants, and then only private ones, but even I know you aren’t just handed the money. You spend the money (often borrowed) under the agreement that you have, aka, you do something for them that they have promised to pay you for, and they reimburse it. And you have to be very careful to spend the money in ways that they approve of, or you did not, in fact, follow the grant and you won’t get reimbursed.

          It doesn’t matter if new leadership of grant issuer decides they don’t like it, it is a contract that both parties have agreed to.

          Or are we at the point where conservatives think contracts don’t mean anything anymore if they don’t like them?Report

          • Jaybird in reply to DavidTC
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            I like how you’re pretending the issue is ‘this stuff being exposed’ instead of ‘executive overstepping actual constitutional authority and also violating contracts’.

            Please understand that from my perspective, executive overstepping actual constitutional authority and also violating contracts is nothing new. No new ground is being broken here.

            What makes this different is not how crazy it is that a president is overstepping nor that he is violating contracts.

            It’s the stuff that is coming to light that is novel.Report

            • DavidTC in reply to Jaybird
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              Really? Would you like to list times that the executive has violated contracts in the past?

              I mean, I can think of a few, but it’s things like violating treaties with Native Americans, things that we agree were actually theft and should not have been done.

              I would ask for the violating constitutional authority, but I know your examples are going to be lunatic interpretation of what the Federal government as a whole is allowed to do. As opposed to things that are explicitly granted to one branch of the government versus another, which is the problem here. So I’m not going to bother.

              But I would like to know the contract thing.Report

            • DavidTC in reply to Jaybird
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              Oh, and why don’t you list some of that stuff that’s coming to light? As I pointed out with the last thing that you came forward with, it was just a straight up lie, attributing the entire cost of Politico subscriptions across the government to USAID, and building a conspiracy theory from that that frankly didn’t even make sense.

              So instead of vague posting about what you’re talking about, try actually saying them.

              Or are you talking about ‘overhead on federal contracts is sometimes pretty high’, which hardly seems ‘novel’, and was _extremely public_, it’s part of the grant bidding process and posted on websites, it has not recently ‘come to light’.Report

              • Jaybird in reply to DavidTC
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                attributing the entire cost of Politico subscriptions across the government to USAID, and building a conspiracy theory from that that frankly didn’t even make sense.

                We’re getting awfully narrow, aren’t we?

                “Those subscriptions weren’t from USAID! Only a few were! And other parts of the government were giving Politico money!”

                The scandal was not that the money specifically was coming from USAID, but that millions and millions were being funneled to Politico from the USG.

                “You were wrong about all of that money coming from USAID!” is true.

                You’re right.

                You’re also not addressing what the issue was by focusing on that to the exclusion of what came to light.

                Or are you talking about ‘overhead on federal contracts is sometimes pretty high’, which hardly seems ‘novel’, and was _extremely public_, it’s part of the grant bidding process and posted on websites, it has not recently ‘come to light’.

                If the argument is that “this isn’t new, everybody knew this!” in response to it becoming Common Knowledge, you’d best be prepared to come up with some other argument in service to maintaining the status quo due to the sheer number of people who, until recently, just weren’t paying that much attention.

                Try something like “the fact that you weren’t paying attention until recently is not my problem! We’re keeping the status quo and you can’t do anything about it!”

                Maybe that’ll resonate.Report

  3. Burt Likko
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    If there is one fixed star of Donald Trump’s second term, it is revenge on those he believes wronged him.

    We shall find that this is a piss-poor ideology upon which to base the formulation of public policy.Report

  4. Michael Cain
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    Next month we get to see what they do with the in-house science in the next continuing resolution…

    Last Friday Boeing called an all-hands meeting for everyone working on the Space Launch System (SLS). The meeting was called on short notice — hours, not days — and lasted six minutes. The top manager told everyone there was a risk that the SLS would be canceled, some contracts as early as next month. NASA contractors have started stacking the SLS for the Artemis II mission, scheduled to launch no earlier than April 2026.Report

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