Pete Rose and the Limitations of Hustle

Andrew Donaldson

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  1. Burt Likko
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    As a kid I thrilled to Rose chasing Ty Cobb, and held dread he’d do it against the Brewers. No, it was the Padres and it was so much fun. And then… Like you say in the OP. Distinguishing between Pete Rose the player and Pete Rose the man is hard. Just as it is when a talented artist behaves very badly, the art itself often feels tainted.

    I have faith it’ll happen one day, and a part of me will be not only thrilled but hopefully relieved when someone hits number 4,257. Who knows, maybe it’ll be Cincinatti’s current camera magnet, Elly de la Cruz. Wouldn’t that be something.Report

  2. CJColucci
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    I have long advocated a wing in the Hall of Fame where athletically-deserving but morally questionable people should have black-bordered plaques: Shoeless Joe Jackson, Pete Rose, the known steroid users. (I remain morally certain that there are steroid users now in the Hall, based on the shape of their careers, though I make no accusations against specific persons without better evidence.)Report

  3. Greg in Ak
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    Watched him as an opponent and then on my team the Phils. Also saw his spiritual successor Lenny Dykstra. There is a type of guy who has so much success in their 20-30’s that they never can learn a new way of being/living. So they end up going from hard nosed and always giving 120% to clunky man child who can barely hold life together overnight.Report

  4. Jaybird
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    I hope that the lifetime ban is merely a lifetime ban.Report

  5. Philip H
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    Pete Rose chose, over an dover, to cheat the sport he claimed to love for personal gain. He deserves every opprobrium he received. He does not deserve a spot in the Hall of Fame because he is not a man anyone should look up to.Report

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