Kamala’s Taxing Policies
For a long time, Kamala Harris didn’t comment much on specific policies for her potential presidential administration. There’s a certain benefit to being a blank-slate candidate. People can project whatever beliefs and platforms they want onto you. I think that both Barack Obama and Donald Trump gained from being blank slates in their first presidential campaigns.
The problem is that when a candidate starts talking, they start ticking people off. As the blank canvas gets colored in, it is more difficult to see what you want to see. Of course, it isn’t impossible. People can stubbornly deny reality and remain in their bubbles.
That was the case with Kamala Harris this week. The Democratic nominee tipped her hand on a potential $5 trillion tax increase. Per the New York Times, the plan didn’t originate with Harris but was part of a package proposed by the Biden Administration last spring. Among the headline facets of the proposal were a tax on unrealized capital gains and an increase in the corporate tax rate.
Tax increases are never popular, especially in an election year, but it’s important to note here that despite claims to the contrary, the tax increases would not target anyone who earns less than $400,000. This keeps Biden’s 2020 campaign promise.
Per the Times, the plan would:
- Raise the top corporate tax rate to 28 percent from 21 percent
- Eliminate the ability of corporations to deduct the pay of employees who earn more than $1 million
- Increases the top marginal income tax rate for individuals from 37 to 39.9 percent. The IRS website notes that this top rate is currently paid on incomes greater than $609,350 for single individuals or $731,200 for married couples filing jointly.
- Increase two parallel Medicare surtaxes to five percent from 3.8 percent for Americans earning more than $400,000
- Tax investment earnings as regular income instead of at a lower dividend rate for Americans earning more than $1 million
- Tax some capital gains before assets are sold or before the owner dies for those with over $100 million and who don’t pay at least 25 percent on a combination of their income and their unrealized capital gains
I dislike taxes as much as the next guy, but there are two important takeaways here. First, these tax increases are targeted at the wealthy and corporations. There is a wealth of polling, including this Morning Consult poll from March, that indicates that taxing the wealthy is a popular bipartisan position. The new populists in the GOP might be surprised to learn that 69 percent of swing state voters, including 58 percent of Republicans, favored raising taxes on billionaires with similar numbers supporting higher taxes for those who earn more than $400,000. Ironically, even billionaires support tax increases on billionaires.
That may be why so many Republicans are omitting the income qualifiers on Kamala’s tax proposal. If Republican and independent voters found out that the tax hike is not on them but the wealthy, a surprising number would probably be okay with it, and my experience on the internet in recent days indicates that a lot of middle-class Americans think the tax hike would hit them.
The second important point is that the tax plan will be DOA. It will never happen.
The Biden-Harris tax plan has to go through Congress. We don’t know what the makeup of the new Congress will be, but we do know that neither party will have a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. Even if Democrats maintain control of the Senate, they won’t have anywhere near the 60 votes required to overcome the certain filibuster.
But what if the Democrats nuke the filibuster? Well, they’ve had four years of very close votes to change that rule and they have yet to do so. In fact, the last major political figure to advocate killing the filibuster was… wait for it… Donald Trump.
Hopefully, Majority Leader Chuck Schumer – if he is still Majority Leader in the next Congress – will remember the unholy consequences unleashed when Harry Reid killed the filibuster for judicial nominees in 2013. McConnell detonated his own nuclear option by removing the filibuster for Supreme Court nominees later and the result was Democrats’ inability to block Donald Trump’s nominees as well as a more polarized and radical judiciary.
There is still the possibility of a budget reconciliation bill, the legislative vehicle used several times in recent years, including by Republicans in 2017 to pass tax cuts as part of tax reform. Budget reconciliations require only a simple majority and cannot be filibustered, but they are limited by law to addressing provisions that deal with spending, revenues, and the debt limit.
The Democrats could theoretically try to enact the tax hike as part of a budget reconciliation but the strategy has not been successful with their three-vote majority current Congress. With such a slim margin, only two votes can be lost before the bill fails.
And the Democratic majority is likely to grow smaller. As Cook Political Report points out, Democrats are defending 23 Senate seats to 11 for the Republicans. One of those seats, the West Virginia seat of Joe Manchin, is almost certain to be lost. Another three Democratic seats in Michigan, Montana, and Ohio are rated as tossups while all Republican seats look safe at this point. The fact that Democrats may not have a Senate majority much longer is also a good argument against Democrats killing the filibuster.
So the tax increases almost certainly won’t happen and they won’t affect you if they do become law. But let’s take a moment to talk about the national debt.
The national debt is currently in excess of $35 trillion and growing rapidly. If we are serious about getting the debt under control, we need to consider tax increases and rule out any more tax cuts. We should also consider spending cuts, but since each side only wants to cut the other’s priorities, any spending cuts must be across the board.
I like to point out that when Republicans had the chance to cut spending under Trump, they revved it up. Some Trump spending was due to the pandemic, but even prior to the national emergency, Trump’s spending was out of control. In the final analysis, Trump will have both outspent and out-borrowed Joe Biden by trillions.
I also like to point out that the only time in decades that we have had our fiscal house in anything resembling order was under the much-maligned John Boehner. When Boehner led the House, Republicans achieved the first real spending cuts in consecutive years since 1953. Remember that fact when MAGA activists ask you what conservatism ever conserved because the MAGA Republican caucus had the opportunity to enact similar cuts in both the Trump and Biden Administrations and failed both times.
My point here is that if you believe that the national debt is a crisis, tax cuts should be off the table and tax increases should be on it. A second point is that Republicans are much more likely to rein in spending when there is a Democratic president than a Republican one. The temptation is vote largesse for their constituents is simply too tempting when they have a majority and control of Congress and the presidency.
A final point involves Donald Trump. It is extremely unlikely that Kamala Harris’s tax plan would become law, but Donald Trump has his own tax plan. Trump has advocated a national import tax of 10 percent (at times he has said 20 percent) across the board as well as a 60-percent tariff on Chinese goods. (Full disclosure, the same Morning Consult poll that I cited above also found that Trump’s tariff was popular, although not as popular as taxing the wealthy.)
The Tax Policy Center analyzed the proposal and found that Trump’s tax increase, which could be implemented by executive action under existing law, would result in decreases in income for all income groups as the economy slowed. There is a double-whammy here because Americans would be paying more in taxes as their incomes decreased. Trump’s tax would cost middle-class households about $1,350 annually.
It’s worth noting that Trump’s tariffs in his first term sparked trade wars and retaliation by our trading partners. TrumpTrade sparked a manufacturing recession and cost the US thousands of manufacturing jobs. It also killed export markets for farmers and led to billions in bailouts for Trump’s rural voters.
I’ve long joked that if you want Republicans to support a tax increase, just call it a tariff. Many Republicans don’t seem to understand that a tariff is a tax and the remainder don’t seem to understand that they, not Chinese corporations, are paying the tax.
In summary, Kamala’s tax plan is bad but it won’t happen and it won’t affect you if it does. Trump’s tariff plan is also bad and would be a near-certainty early in his Administration. Unlike the Harris tax on the wealthy, Trump’s tariff would affect Americans who buy things. That includes almost anything because even most American goods have foreign materials and components.
While I don’t like either candidate’s tax policy, one option is clearly worse for most Americans and more likely to take effect. Given a choice between two bad policies, I’ll take the one that probably won’t happen. And in this case, that matches up with the candidate who is not an insurrectionist.
Win-win.
“targeted at the wealthy and corporations”
Sigh.
“I hope they raise taxes on my landlord! He’s been bleeding me dry, the leech!”
(Taxes go up on my landlord)
(Okay… what’s the punchline? We all know it. What’s the punchline?)Report
The punchline is that landlords and other business leaders can choose to take a little less profit and absorb that tax increase or they can and will pass it on. We all “know” they will pass it on but they don’t have to. Its a choice.Report
Yes! The punchline is “Now we need rent control!”Report
I heard the joke differently, with the punchline “why don’t we have enough housing?’.Report
This is a fallacy straight out of Econ 101 Chapter 1, Page 1.
Now lets turn the page…
Sometimes an increase in costs can be passed on in the form of higher prices, but only if it is being levied equally on all suppliers.
If your landlord has a different tax situation than his competitor across the street, he may or may not be able to pass the tax increase on.Report
To a first approximation, businesses mostly collect taxes as opposed to paying them. There are a ton of fine print and inaccuracies to that statement, but if we’re collecting a lot more in business taxes we should expect higher prices.Report
Price increase on eggs are simply passed on to employers in the form of higher wages demanded by employees.
This is also subject to the “ton of fine print and inaccuracies”.Report
The punchline is that these taxes would disproportionately reduce savings and investment by high-income taxpayers, rather than consumption, which slows economic growth and hurts everyone in the long run.Report
In a few weeks every American voter will be facing a choice between two outcomes:
One President who will preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution and the rule of law:
One who will work to destroy democracy and institute a corrupt authoritarian regime based on Christian Nationalism.
Taxes got nuthin’ to do with it.Report
True that.
If I have to give school grades to all of them…
Harris gets a C+ or so. She’s a generic Blue. She’s missing both outstanding accomplishments and serious scandals. If someone brings solid evidence that she’s been a key Biden aid then I’ll raise that.
Her VP gets a B. Successful Governor.
Trump’s VP gets an E or so. He’s either a right wing nut or darn close and he was selected for personal loyalty to Trump.
Trump doesn’t get a grade because school shooters don’t graduate.Report
Have you ever actually read the Constitution? Harris is campaigning on flouting Constitutional limits on Federal and Executive power.
Is she the lesser evil? Probably, if Republicans win at least one house of Congress, enough to stop her from actually implementing the idiotic ideas she’s campaigning on. But she’s going to continue her predecessor’s policy of governing with open contempt for the actual Constitution, defending only the fantasy version of the Constitution that contains only the parts consistent with Democratic policy preferences.Report
You can certainly make that claim.
Let me know if anyone finds it persuasive.Report
I found someone who finds it persuasive. Now what?Report
Run with it. By all means, I would be delighted to see this being the tentpole of the Trump campaign.
Oh wait. It already is.
It was the foundation of the Flight 93 essay, it is the rallying cry of the Jan 6 insurrectionists, it is the refrain you see repeated on Gateway Pundit, Redstate, Fox News and all the MAGAs, that the Democrats are the ones who will bring about the downfall of American democracy.
I’m completely cool with this.Report
I kinda see it as similar to college debt forgiveness.
There are a handful of people who are full-throated supporters of it. You’re probably surrounded by them every day.
It can provide the illusion of it being popular.Report
Its like finding someone who agrees with Brandon’s argument.
It can provide the illusion of being popular.Report
I wouldn’t mind seeing a deep dive on this, if you’ve done one. I don’t know enough of what Harris is actually proposing.Report
“In the final analysis, Trump will have both outspent and out-borrowed Joe Biden by trillions.”
We’re spending about $1T per year more post-covid than pre-covid. It’s more complicated than that, because of inflation, and the debt-to-GDP ratio is probably more important, and that was fairly stable (but insanely high) both pre- and post-covid. The only thing I’ve seen that puts Trump spending faster than Biden is the one you posted. A pox on both their houses – well, not a pox, because we end up spending more during outbreaks, but you get my point. Trump never understood debt, and Biden sure spend a career ignoring it too.Report
The GOP has studiously ignored the relationship between debt and tax cuts for 40 years.Report
If you look at the debt-to-GDP ratio, you’ll see that we lost control of it in during the financial crisis, when Bush and the Republicans went along with the Democrats, and then Obama and the Democrats went along with the Republicans. As I noted, Trump and Biden both had fairly flat stretches if you ignore the covid response. But back to the pox, like I said, both their houses.
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GFDEGDQ188SReport
A big part of this is that people have no idea how high taxes on high-income households are, due to a steady diet of misinformation from low-rent populist demagogues like Bernie Sanders and Joe Biden. If you actually asked people how much someone with an income of $X should pay in taxes, rather than “Should rich people pay more taxes?” it’s very likely that, for high incomes, the median would be about the same as or lower than the actual effective tax rates on the very wealthy, which is about 30% of income in federal taxes alone. I’ve only seen one such poll actually done, back in 2012, and the median answer was 25%, presumably including state taxes.Report
I think that the big problem is the whole issue of “unrealized gains” is easily gameable.
Let’s say that I bought some stock back in 2000 for the low low price of $1000. Now, in 2024, that stock is worth $1,000,000.
It’s insane to think that I should have to pay taxes on that before selling it. That’s absurd.
But what I *CAN* do is go to the bank and say “hey, can I borrow $500,000? Here’s my stock as collateral.”
I don’t have to pay taxes on that $500,000 even though it’s based on an unrealized gain.
And that gaming of the system is going to result in a *LOT* of reshuffling once it goes through the populists in congress.Report
Outlaw the loans. That forces the handful of people in this situation to actually have an income with realized cap gains. That fixes the actual problem created by these loans.
The flaw is it won’t raise anywhere near enough money to do what the gov wants.Report
If you do that, you’re outlawing margin trading.Report
You don’t have to pay taxes, but you do have to pay interest. Over 20-30 years, that interest is going to cost you more than just taking that one-time tax hit from selling the stock, which is why I’m skeptical that this is actually practiced all that much, except maybe by people who expect to die within the next decade or so.
ProPublica’s “expose” heavily insinuated that the richest people in the country were doing this to evade taxes, but the actual data they presented showed that those people were paying quite a lot in income taxes, plausibly consistent with selling stock to fund all their personal expenditures, though of course without knowing what they actually spent, we can’t know for sure.
Income taxation is actually a pretty lousy tax system. It’s basically a broken consumption tax that taxes future consumption much more heavily than present consumption. The obvious solution is to stop taxing income and just rely on a mixture of consumption and Pigovian taxes.Report
There’s “is” and there’s “ought”. This ain’t an “is” problem. We can make a big deal about how paying interest ends up spending more than paying taxes would, but the loan “feels” like realizing a gain.
And that feeling is going to result in stuff actually changing.Report