The Master Debaters (Not)
I’m writing this as I’m watching the historic first presidential debate between a current and a former president.
Right out of the gate, I noticed that Biden’s voice was raspy and seemed like he was tired. Trump, on the other hand, was more energetic and a clear speaker.
Biden also did not present a good visual. He looked tired and often had his mouth slightly agape, although this may be because he couldn’t believe what he was hearing from the other podium.
Whatever the reason, for most viewers the bottom line will be that Trump looked and sounded better than Biden.
Going further, Biden had a few oratorical stumbles. I’m sure that you’ll be seeing the clips of these replayed. In context, however, he was mostly coherent with the exception of what seemed to me like a recurrence of his stuttering problem several times. As the debate went on, Biden did seem to warm up and got more energetic and feisty, but first impressions had already been made.
There won’t be talk about Biden being jacked up on drugs after the debate, but he really could have used a lozenge.
When it came to substance, it was a different story. A steady stream of falsehoods came from Donald Trump that will defy the efforts of an army of fact-checkers. To be fair, Biden did make misstatements as well. Every candidate does in the heat of battle, but I’m pretty sure that Trump was just making stuff up to a large extent. (If you’re interested in fact-checks, here are two from CNN and Politifact.)
As an example, Trump came out of the gate with two lies, that America was not at war during his presidency and that he presided over a historically strong economy. The facts are that America was at war in Afghanistan throughout his Administration though he did negotiate the Afghan withdrawal with the Taliban, and Trump’s economy was mediocre even before the pandemic. A big part of Trump’s economic woes can be traced directly to Trump’s tariff and trade wars.
And that’s the problem. Many people will hear Trump’s words and assume that they are the truth because of the law of primacy, which holds that people remember what they hear first. Put in different terms, as George Santayana said, “Repeat a lie often enough and the people will believe it,” and, as Will Rogers pointed out, “A lie can travel halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on.”
Trump is a very convincing liar. He’s a con man from way back. A bull-shitter. Making a sales pitch is second nature to him.
Biden is not a salesman.
The downside for Trump, other than the blatant lies, was that he tended to ramble and avoid difficult questions like whether he would accept the election results even if he lost. That failure to answer is an answer in itself and that fact should deeply concern Americans.
I won’t lie. It was not a good night for Joe Biden. Going into the debate, he needed to project vibrance and clarity. He was lucid but sometimes unintelligible, coherent but not articulate. The clips of his stumbles will hurt. It may be superficial, but his weak voice and stumbles made him seem frail. Biden got in good jabs at Trump, but they won’t be remembered because they were hard to understand.
The weird thing is that at the post-debate party, Biden sounded more energetic and the raspiness was gone from his voice. If he had presented this image during the debate, the night might have ended on a very different note.
On substance, especially if one screens out Trump’s lies, Biden did better, even as I disagreed with a lot of his policy positions. (I can say the same about Trump’s policies. His economic plans are a recipe for disaster.) He refuted a great many of Trump’s false statements, but the question was whether anyone was listening, and if they were listening, whether they could understand him.
The bottom line is that America is in trouble. Not the way Trump says when he paints a picture of the economy in shambles and Biden as a tyrant. Neither is true despite Trump hammering away at the talking points.
We’re in trouble because the reality is that neither one of these guys should be president. Joe Biden is an old man who should be enjoying his twilight years, and Donald Trump is an old man who is corrupt, incompetent, and vengeful. It was a depressing night.
As the post-debate shows play on, there is talk about possibly replacing Biden. A lot of it from Democrats. At this point, it is difficult to see how Biden can overcome his debate performance, except…
Not too many undecided voters were probably watching the June debate, much earlier than previous debates, and he’s running against a very unlikeable, incompetent, and radical opponent.
Joe Biden’s hoarse voice does not make Donald Trump honest or trustworthy.
I think the reaction of most Americans will be similar to the meme below that was posted on the platform formerly known as Twitter.
Biden did not inspire confidence. Trump inspires fear, such fear that dozens of his former aides and cabinet members have warned against re-electing him.
That may be a silver lining for Biden. The snap reaction of a lot of many viewers seems to be that while Biden looked old, Trump scored poorly on the issues. There is some speculation that even though Biden did not do himself any favors, Trump may not capitalize because of his weakness on substance. The polls in the coming weeks will tell the tale, but the bottom line is that it isn’t Republicans who are talking about replacing their candidate (although they definitely should).
Are these two really the best we can do? The answer is pretty obviously no, but what are we going to do about it?
Barring a miracle or the Sweet Meteor of Death, one of the two will be inaugurated president next January. Donald Trump is too dangerous to be allowed to return to power, and if Joe Biden can’t make that case effectively to the American people, Democrats need to find someone who can.
The ball is in Biden’s court. He needs to show the country that he can handle another four years. And time is running out to do so.
Don’t get me wrong, even if Joe Biden dies, his corpse would be a better choice for President than Trump and I can well believe that Biden was the Democrats’ best choice. The part I don’t get is why, in 2024, he is their best choice.
Bill Clinton, Bush the Younger and Donald Trump were all born in 1946. Biden was born in 1942. For that matter, look at the birth years of failed presidential candidates in that period: Bush the Elder (1924), Al Gore (1948), John Kerry (1943), John McCain (1936), Mitt Romney (1947) and Hillary Clinton (1947) . What that means is that with the sole exception of Barak Obama (born 1961), every realistic candidate for President has come from the same age cohort, if not the previous one. Assuming the winner of this election lives through their term, this one generation will have held power for 36 years.
This clearly isn’t just an issue for the Democrats, because the Republicans have been following the same playbook, still it is very strange that there is essentially an entire lost generation of American political leaders at his point.
I mean, this isn’t the worst problem the Presidential selection process has (that would be nominating Donald Trump), but it is a problem that US politics has had almost no fresh blood at the high level for over 30 years.Report
Also notable is how many of those last names you mentioned represent legacies.Report
Also, I just realised I forgot about Bob Dole, but he was born in 1923, so he fits the pattern.Report
I don’t know how things are in your country, but in the US everyone hates the boomers. They’re the bullying golden child of history who left every institution worse than they found it. They don’t even like their generation.Report
That’s the thing though, it’s not just that you keep nominating boomers, Wikipedia puts the boomers from 1946 – 1964. The nominees I listed above aren’t merely boomers, they’re right at the oldest edge of boomers. Hell some of them aren’t boomers because they’re too old to be (including Biden). Even Obama is a boomer, he’s just at the younger end.Report
It’s more like we nominate the least-boomery people we can. We’ll do 1946 if we have to, but no one born in the 1950’s gets near the office. But also, yeah, we have a high level of contempt for Clinton, W, and Trump, considering how often we elected them.Report
That doesn’t work either. Gen-X (born in 1965 onward) started being old enough to be President in 2000. The US has had a quarter of a century to skip over the boomers.Report
“what seemed to me like a recurrence of his stuttering problem several times”
I don’t think you or anyone believes that. Stuttering doesn’t make you forget what you’re talking about then blurt out “we fixed Medicare”. Stuttering doesn’t get worse as you get older after decades of public speaking. Stuttering doesn’t make it hard for you to walk to a podium.Report
Oh, hey, he’s still repeating the “8.2% tax rate” lie to promote his idiotic mark-to-market tax. People overlook this because Trump’s constant BSing makes him look better by comparison, but Biden really does lie quite a lot; he just does it more strategically than Trump.Report
One of the many problems with Trump is that his presence lowers the bar for everyone else.Report
Trying to find a criticism of Biden that doesn’t immediately get a “but whatabout Trump!” response…
Yeah. Checks out.Report
Related to my anti-boomer comment above, I’d say that it was the Clinton years when we stopped expecting truth from leaders.Report
You must be very young.Report