13 thoughts on “Partisan Lies Threaten the Union

  1. They.
    Do.
    Not.
    Care.

    The politicians and their rich plutocratic backers do not believe the violence will hurt them. They believe it is the necessary end of four plus decades of work to make the US a permanent minority rule nation. The GOP is now purposely following the dictator’s propaganda playbook, where by if you repeat lies enough they become truth. And the are doing it to obtain and retain political power.

    They.
    Do.
    Not.
    Care.Report

    1. “The politicians and their rich plutocratic backers do not believe the violence will hurt them” Have not most of these guys in history always believed that? Often times they’ve learned the hard way they were wrong.Report

  2. The lies that Republican voters tell themselves are pretextual which makes them impervious to truth.

    MAGAs are not, in any way shape or form, the victims of any sort of injustice or persecution. Their rage comes from the fact that they are no longer able to enforce their will on the unwilling majority.

    They are at base, unwilling to live in the same society that treats queer people as full equals. They are unwilling to tolerate a legal system that gives women power over their own bodies and they cannot accept a society where nonwhite people can hold power over white people.

    Occasionally one of them will say the quiet parts out loud but most often they retreat to the lies which give them permission to hate.Report

    1. Data point A:
      A longtime Los Angeles County lifeguard stationed in Pacific Palisades near a stretch beloved by gay beachgoers is suing the county for requiring him to work feet away from a Pride flag last summer and punishing him for taking three of the flags down.
      Jeffrey Little, an evangelical Christian who has worked for the county for more than 22 years, is represented by attorneys from the Thomas More Society, a conservative Catholic legal group known for challenging abortion rights, the 2020 election results and same-sex marriage.

      https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2024-05-29/christian-lifeguard-sues-la-county-over-pride-flag-on-beach
      Lets unpack this.
      His claim to harm is that he was required to work mere feet from a pride flag.
      This is a perfect example of MAGA thinking.

      Being forced to tolerate queer people and treat them as full and equal citizens is abhorrent to the MAGA mind, and not being able to suppress queer people and push them into the shadows is an intolerable offense.Report

  3. We aren’t going to convince MAGA that they lost the last election any more than we can convince someone that their god isn’t real. On some level they already know, they just aren’t willing to admit it.

    We need to have Trump lose the next election convincingly.

    Then, after there’s no motive for team Blue to take Trump down because he’s lost the election, Trump’s various court cases finish and put him in prison.Report

  4. Words have meaning, and a large part of the Republican Party has lost touch with reality because politicians and pundits that they trust are lying to them. Somehow, the party has come to the conclusion that a habitual liar is a truth-teller and must be believed despite all the evidence to the contrary.

    I think it’s worse than that.

    Remember the old Conan line about what is best in life? The party has moved to thinking that success can be measured by the lamentations of the women.

    Not policy achievements. Not legislation. Not improvements by adding good things or taking away bad things.

    Trump is the logical outcome of the inability to answer “what have you conserved?” over a long enough timeline.Report

      1. It actually doesn’t mean “political beliefs I disagree with” so much as it means “Republican”.

        But to say “Republican” sounds like a subjective partisan opinion instead of objective fact and by substituting “partisan” it allows people to maintain the pose of neutrality.
        Sort of a “Opinions on the shape of the earth differ” kind of thing.Report

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