Shopping For What You Forgot: Blue Box Store v Red Box Store

Andrew Donaldson

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  1. fillyjonk
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    I remember back in 1989, on the way to my grandmother’s funeral in northern Michigan (so: a 14 hour drive for us), we were most of the way there and my dad realized that the suitcase with his clothes and my brother’s had gotten left back home. So they had to make an emergency trip – to the JC Penney’s in a mall in, IIRC Escanaba (might have been Gladstone), and they managed to find the required suitcoat, shirt, and tie (and other things they needed). Luckily the suitcase with my mom’s and my clothes made it into the car.

    This would have been before the large-scale penetration of Target and even Wal-mart into smaller markets like Escanaba, Michigan….

    But yeah, Penney’s is gone, Sears’ is gone, for those of us in what used to be considered the middle class we either wind up having to shop “above our station” (if a “fancy” store is available), or we have to default to Target or Wal-mart.

    I admit I prefer Target; the store I frequent here is a lot cleaner than the wal-mart is here (that’s important) and if I need to buy clothes I am more likely to find what I like at Target (though for many things I prefer to mail order from Vermont Country Store.)

    I suspect more and more, American’s choices will be bifurcated into the super high-end for those who have the money and live in a major metro area, and Target/wal-mart/some variety of dollar store for those who don’t, or who don’t have the dough, and it feels like we’ve lost something in losing those middle-range clothing chains. (Back in the day, most of my school clothes came from JC Penney’s or Sears; my “church clothes” were from O’Neil’s, a regional OH chain that Macys bought and then closed down)Report

    • Em Carpenter in reply to fillyjonk
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      Pennys still exists where I live! We also have Kohl’s. I don’t think I’ve ever bought an item of clothing at Target. And you’d be hard pressed to find a suit coat there or Wal Mart.Report

    • Jesse in reply to fillyjonk
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      I mean, part of the reason the middle is falling out, is that cheap stuff is getting very cheap and “good enough” that it doesn’t feel there’s any point to spend 20% more at a department store. The people spoke, and sometimes, the people are bad.

      To be fair, Sears was killed by a weird Ayn Randian CEO beyond even their actual, real problems. Like, Sears would still be having issues today, but it wouldn’t be basically dead.Report

      • DensityDuck in reply to Jesse
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        Careful now, you’ll end up saying “American poverty is very different in 202x than it was in 197x and we need to take that into account when determining what kind of assistance low-income low-wealth persons need” and then suddenly you wake up and you’re a member of the Heritage Club.Report

  2. DensityDuck
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    One of the things I really like about the modern world is the fact that when I’m in the Products aisle looking at fifty different variations of the Product, and I know that every one that isn’t the correct one is completely unusable for the purpose, I can text my wife and say “please send me a picture of the thing I’m supposed to get”, and then I can just match the picture instead of having to wish and hope that I picked the right one.

    Unless they’ve changed their packaging, which they did last week.Report

  3. CJColucci
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    I have been in several major and minor department and clothing stores over the last week looking for white cotton (or linen or blend) handkerchiefs with no success. At one place, the salesperson said: “Oh, my grandfather used to carry one.” F**k off, kid.
    I don’t want to gin up Amazon to deliver such a small item, so I’m going to wait until I need something else and get them together.Report

    • John Puccio in reply to CJColucci
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      That’s not how Amazon shipping works. You may as well order the hanky.Report

      • DensityDuck in reply to John Puccio
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        It is a very Boomer attitude to think “well I don’t want someone to have to spend their whole day driving all the way to my house just to deliver a handkerchief”.

        Buddy, they’re spending their whole day driving whether it’s to your house or not!Report

        • fillyjonk in reply to DensityDuck
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          also if you order 2-3 things along with the hanky they will very likely (a) be shipped from different locations, (b) in different shipping containers, and (c) arrive on different days.

          I actually thought Amazon had shorted me on something recently because it actually came shipped in the same package with something else, and i didn’t open the package immediately because I didn’t need that thing immediately.Report

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