Alaska Airlines Is Shown the Door

David Thornton

David Thornton is a freelance writer and professional pilot who has also lived in Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas. He is a graduate of the University of Georgia and Emmanuel College. He is Christian conservative/libertarian who was fortunate enough to have seen Ronald Reagan in person during his formative years. A former contributor to The Resurgent, David now writes for the Racket News with fellow Resurgent alum, Steve Berman, and his personal blog, CaptainKudzu. He currently lives with his wife and daughter near Columbus, Georgia. His son is serving in the US Air Force. You can find him on Twitter @CaptainKudzu and Facebook.

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  1. Jaybird says:

    had only completed 145 flights.

    That right there is the part that freaked me out. I had assumed that it was a plane from 1998 or something and hadn’t been sufficiently maintained instead of being fresh off the lot.

    The other thing that freaks me out is covered by this story in, yes, The New York Post: Black box recorder from imperiled Alaska Airlines flight completely erased: ‘we have nothing’.

    Now, I understand wanting to go full Alex Jones on that one but I find the non-conspiracy takes on this equally freaky. How many black boxes out there are bad? I had assumed, to this point, that if anything on the plane was busted, it would *NOT* be The Black Box. But Black Boxes on fresh-off-the-lot planes are bad too! What the heck else is going on?

    THERE’S A MAN ON THE WING OF THIS PLANE

    (From the story: “The clearly frustrated NTSB chief said the agency has investigated 10 other near-misses involving commercial flights over the last six years where the flight recorder had been overwritten.”)Report

    • Philip H in reply to Jaybird says:

      The black box overwriting is a case where the FAA – the rule maker – refuses to listen to the NTSB on what needs to happen, and so the airlines get a pass. Probably because the FAA has the dual and dueling responsibilities of regulating air travel and promoting air travel.Report

  2. Dark Matter says:

    THERE’S A MAN ON THE WING OF THIS PLANE

    The ambulance which picked up the witness had Dan Aykroyd driving.
    “Do you want to see something really scary?”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnlcPaIwaCg
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlVjdyfJIWs

    It’s pretty clear in context that he does “cleanup”.Report

  3. Jaybird says:

    An interesting theoretical question:

    Well… is it insider trading to do puts while on the wrecked plane?

    For me, I’d say that the answer is “no”, due to the guy not being related to Boeing at all.Report

    • North in reply to Jaybird says:

      I don’t think the SEC would bother to go after such a person nor would their normal triggers and alerts fire on such a person unless they are, independently of the incident, in some way involved with Boeing.Report

      • Dark Matter in reply to North says:

        When I was doing trading I saw an info-gram which basically said this was the most common type of insider trading, i.e. the friend/relative of someone who knows, and the SEC is structured to deal with it.

        It’s been too many years to remember the details, but keep in mind that if you are making “seriously unusual-for-you trades that are magically related to events that insiders could know”, then that’s a serious red flag.Report

    • KenB in reply to Jaybird says:

      It’s insider trading right up until the point that he’s sucked out.Report

    • Doctor Jay in reply to Jaybird says:

      Absolutely not insider trading. You can use any public event you observe. If you were a Boieing manager/executive, things might get more complicated. But not for anyone else.

      Insider trading is more about what you know is going to happen. Like poor quarterly performance reports, or good ones.

      But if you see a big explosion at Megacorp corporate headquarters – go ahead and buy those puts. You have maybe a 5-10 minute window. Possibly more. It makes you kind of ghoulish, but it isn’t illegal.

      If you found out that the CEO of Apple was in the ER with a heart attack, though, I’m not sure you could use this: HEPA, etc.Report

  4. “If the door is smaller than the hole” I think you mean bigger.Report

  5. Jaybird says:

    A fun story from 2019: Boeing’s 737 Max Software Outsourced to $9-an-Hour Engineers.

    The door problem was not a software problem, but if you wanted to look at the “MBAification” of Boeing in the last decade, there’s evidence out there.Report

    • Dark Matter in reply to Jaybird says:

      Boeing needs to understand that it’s a software company which makes airplanes on the side.

      I’m serious. The complexity and effort needed to make the software is (I assume) way more than it is to make the hardware. This implies a certain level of importance. This also implies a certain level of management attention.

      It does not speak well of you if you’re outsourcing the most important part of your company to the lowest bidder so it can be cheaply (and poorly) done.Report