The Sky Isn’t Falling

Mike Coté

Mike Coté is a writer and podcaster focusing on history, Great Power rivalry, and geopolitics. He has a Master’s degree in European history, and is working on a book about the Anglo-German economic and strategic rivalry before World War I. He writes for National Review, Providence Magazine, and The Federalist, hosts the Rational Policy podcast, and can be found on Twitter @ratlpolicy.

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8 Responses

  1. Philip H says:

    Tell me you support American troops in Ukraine without telling me you support American trooos in Ukraine.Report

  2. Chris says:

    When your argument is effectively, “You can’t compare this war to the origins of past world wars, because this one is not exactly like the other ones,” you’ve pretty much made all historical analogy impossible, but also, while I think the historical analogies are actually pretty strong, you don’t need them to see that we’re on dangerous footing right now, and I’m not alone, since it’s pretty clear that everyone but the hawks recognizes it, and speaking of historical arguments, historically, the hawks are pretty much always very, very wrong.Report

    • Chip Daniels in reply to Chris says:

      Yes, we’re on dangerous ground, but only because there isn’t any “safe” ground to find.

      Russia attacked Ukraine without any plausible pretext, in a naked attempt at conquest and ethnic cleansing. And they have been ruthless and brutal in their disregard for basic human rights and sovereignty.

      A world where a nation like Russia exists is dangerous ground and we can’t change that. We can only try to find a way to deal with the threat.Report

      • Chris in reply to Chip Daniels says:

        I agree there’s no safe ground as long as the fighting continues, but there is safer ground with a negotiated peace, safer ground with a less hostile approach to China, etc.Report

        • North in reply to Chris says:

          For there to be negotiations both sides must believe that there is something to be gained from a negotiated settlement. Neither side currently does.

          The Ukrainians, correctly, view any ceasefire as simply offering a respite to Russia which the Russians would use to cement the portions of Ukraine the Russians have seized. If Zelenski were to negotiate his own people would likely ride him out of Kiev on a rail.

          The Russians (specifically Putin) still hope that Ukraine can be ground down and that the alliance supporting them can be distracted and outlasted.

          We, as third parties, are entirely incapable of making either of the two begin negotiating so we cannot force a negotiated settlement.Report

  3. InMD says:

    I think we should be pretty hesitant to totally discount historical analogy. Once shots are fired it’s impossible to know where it might lead.

    The more interesting concern to me on the hawkish side is what anything that looks like a Russian victory does to the remainder of the international nuclear non proliferation regime. If that happens, and I am a small-ish country with potentially aggressive neighbors and the capability I’m building a bomb and withdrawing in that order, or maybe joining a consortium of like-minder countries and doing the same. YMMV as to how much of a threat you think that is but I’m not sure how anyone could call it good, if the only way to prevent wars like this is for everyone to be pointing nukes at everyone else. This of course would be a continuation of the situation we created by invading Iraq.Report

  4. North says:

    I was about half way through this article and thinking to myself “He’s doing a decent job” but then you whirled into the present-day critiques, particularly of Biden, and went off the rails. It was reassuring in a way, especially as you did it primarily to try and present the Administrations actions as somehow equivalent to the capering of the right wing quislings in Congress.

    The Russians have been screaming at the top of their lungs and threatening since before they even began their invasion. When dealing with a seemingly deranged actor waving nuclear weapons around- especially when you also have to herd a giant flock of fractious allied cats, I mean nation states, along with you a certain degree of caution is necessary. The Biden admin has performed an incredible feat welding together the alliance behind Ukraine that it has gathered. They’ve also slowly, and relentlessly, backed Putin away from his endless threats revealing each paper tiger option and Potemkin red line for the frauds they are without managing to stumble across the actual red lines that would trigger a deadly escalation. That you think it’s been too slow and hesitate strikes me as merely Captain Hindsight posturing. That you’d suggest that it is being done either to bleed the Russians or to somehow use it for electoral advantage is conspiratorial for the former and ludicrously politically tin eared and risibly cynical for the latter.Report

  5. Jaybird says:

    Anybody who has watched movies about the Vietnam war knows that this is our opportunity to do to them what they did to us.

    We would have won that war if it wasn’t for Russian interference.

    Now we can get payback and we don’t even have to risk “advisors”. Just keep the aid and ammo flowing and they’ll be making movies about what went wrong for a couple of decades.Report