Sunday Morning! King Lear by William Shakespeare

Rufus F.

Rufus is a likeable curmudgeon. He has a PhD in History, sang for a decade in a punk band, and recently moved to NYC after nearly two decades in Canada. He wrote the book "The Paris Bureau" from Dio Press (2021).

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  1. It baffles me that the phrase “In Shakespeare’s defense” is in this otherwise excellent piece.

    Many men – and not just madmen – throughout history have thought the way that Lear is thinking in that moment. You can turn on YouTube and see hundreds of videos with hundreds of thousands of views espousing that exact type of stuff. Entire religions have codified it. Women are being surgically altered and confined to huts to this very day because of that mindset.

    Are we meant to ignore that, to remain ignorant of the reality that some dudes actually do have those sort of thoughts?

    Authors have a responsibility to reveal the darkest recesses of the human mind versus presenting a sanitized-for-your-protection morality play. He’s not advocating a position, but capturing a reality. You may as well take him to task for portraying children killing themselves in Romeo and Juliet.Report

  2. Jaybird says:

    I’ve seen Lear twice.

    The first time was when I was still a teenager and they put a guy in his 40’s in some “old man” makeup. He was pretty good, I guess. I imagine that his tryout was better than everybody else’s, at least. (And, when you’re still a teenager, the difference between “40’s” and “old” is negligible.)

    The second time was about a dozen years later, after I had gotten married, and they got a guy in his late 60’s to play Lear.

    The first guy read the lines expertly.
    The second guy read the lines and you *FELT* it.

    “O, that way madness lies; let me shun that; No more of that.”
    (Aside to self: “Holy crap. That’s what that means. It’s too late though. But wow.”)

    Is there still a debate over what happened to The Fool? When I was a kid, mom told me that the major theories invoked all kinds of psychoanalysis stuff… he represents the king’s lack of wisdom and his disappearance heralds Lear’s gaining it or something about loyalty evaporating or something like that but mom said “He didn’t have an editor. He forgot about the fool and finished the play and then it was too late.”

    And I thought that that was silly in my teens but now I am older and see the wisdom in it.Report

  3. DensityDuck says:

    Some thoughts about Lear:

    1) When I went to see it, I knew nothing about it. In the theater gift shop, they were selling note-cards with quotes from Shakespeare’s works, and one of them was “I love thee more than words can wield the matter”. And I thought, “oh, that’s a nice sentiment, maybe I should get that for someone.” And then I went and watched the play, and afterwards I wondered why you’d put that on a note-card, unless it was meant to be sent to someone you disliked..

    2) I came to the conclusion that one cannot read Shakespeare. If you’re wondering “why is this guy such a huge deal”, then you have to see it done. Stage direction and performance brings a lot to the understanding of the thing.

    3) Also, there’s a lot of stuff you don’t get unless you’ve lived it. I saw Lear right after visiting my grandfather, who’d had several small strokes and was suffering from severe aphasia, as well as the general ailments of the extremely aged. He’d been moving out of his old apartment into a terminal-care facility, and he was very upset that all the things he’d spent so much time and effort carrying from place to place were just going to be thrown away, and he had a lot of trouble expressing that because of his difficulty communicating, and that made him more upset. And, y’know. Here’s King Lear, with everyone telling him “oh, your stuff is such a bother, get rid of all of it, we don’t care about it, we got our own stuff, yours is useless anyway, your whole life is useless garbage and we’re just waiting until we can throw YOU out with the rest of it,” and he’s too old and confused to explain why that upsets him or make a case for it. So, that kind of really hit me harder than it might have done two weeks earlier. (I did take a couple socket sets and a three-foot level, which I didn’t really need but they did fill holes in the inventory.)

    4) Another one that prove Shakespeare saved his best stuff for the last scene. “To be tender-minded does not become a sword.” “The laws are mine, not thine. Who can arraign me for it?” “Oh, you are men of stones!”Report

    • Doctor Jay in reply to DensityDuck says:

      I really, really like your point #3. Such an important part of aging/dying. Thanks.Report

    • Rufus F. in reply to DensityDuck says:

      I would say yeah on #2, but it really has to be the right people. I saw a LOT of Shakespeare in Washington D.C. and Stratford, Ontario. And, sometimes, it would be okay. And sometimes it was better than average. And then, once in a while, there would be a production that just blew everything else you’d ever seen on a stage out of the water. But it takes really thoughtful actors.

      3. I had a great-grandmother (step-grandmother really) who we visited in the hospital after she’d grown angry and delusional on her deathbed, and the things she said were apocalyptic poetry, Again, I don’t know how Shakespeare intuited all of these states of mind. There’s a Borges story in which God and Shakespeare talk and the former pays tribute to the latter for having such a range of human understanding in his writing.Report

    • Slade the Leveller in reply to DensityDuck says:

      #2 is spot on. The words were meant to be spoken.Report

  4. Doctor Jay says:

    I saw a college summer stock production of King Lear and it bowled me over. In the sense of getting a bullet between the eyes or getting hit by a freight train. I note that it is much shorter than Hamlet (to be fair, it is frequently said that we don’t have the edited version that Shakespeare’s company played, just the starting text). It is also much more to the point.

    I particularly like the business where you are given hope that Cordelia will be saved. A rider is sent. The truth has been unraveled. Something will be set right, at least…but no. Ouch! I don’t think No Country For Old Men which has something similar, did it better.

    I think one subtext here is that oppressive, authoritarian regimes are bad for the oppressed, yes. AND, they are also bad for the authorities.Report

    • Rufus F. in reply to Doctor Jay says:

      Yeah, exactly. I mean, Lear has all the authority in the world he knows at the time, and loses his mind because he can’t compel his daughter to say she loves him more than she should. It’s totally devastating.Report

  5. Kolohe says:

    I’ve been watching Succession (just finished season 3) and in the back of my mind I’ve been thinking, ‘I’ll bet this is a take on King Lear’ but I didn’t know much about King Lear other than ‘it’s about a King and his daughters, and is a tragedy so everyone probably dies from tragic flaws’

    And now reading the description above, Succession definitely has King Lear in mind, but does significantly different story beats (so far). (I do basically know the big last season twist as well as who ‘wins’ in the end, but not the journey to that destination)Report