What the Trump Indictment Means
Gage Skidmore from Surprise, AZ, United States of America, CC BY-SA 2.0
Donald Trump announced on Truth Social yesterday that he had been indicted by a federal grand jury. The Department of Justice has not yet made a statement, but Trump said that he has been summoned to the federal courthouse in Miami next Tuesday at 3 pm.
Justice Department sources told the New York Times that the indictment contains seven charges relating to retaining classified documents and obstructing justice. There could be multiple counts relating to each charge.
Jim Trusty, an attorney for Mr. Trump, confirmed that there were “several obstruction-based type charges, and then false statement charges.” At least one charge is related to conspiracy and at least one charge was filed under the Espionage Act.
Currently, the indictment is sealed so the exact nature of the charges is not publicly known, but based on Trusty’s statements, which were in turn based on the summons, Politico says that the basis for the charges includes:
- A provision of the Espionage Act that prohibits retention of classified materials
- A law that prohibits obstructing an official proceeding
- A law that prohibits destroying records pertinent to federal investigations
- Laws against criminal conspiracies and making false statements
CNN last week reported the existence of an audio tape that was in the government’s possession in which Trump admitted that he possessed classified documents. Now the outlet has published part of a transcript of the recording.
Rustling papers, Trump reportedly says, “Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this. This was done by the military and given to me.”
Trump continues after complaining about Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, saying, “All sorts of stuff – pages long, look. Wait a minute, let’s see here. I just found, isn’t that amazing? This totally wins my case, you know. Except it is like, highly confidential. Secret. This is secret information. Look, look at this.”
At one point, Trump comments, “As president, I could have declassified, but now I can’t.”
This is what is known as a smoking gun. On the recording, Trump confirms that he knew he had classified documents, that he knew he wasn’t supposed to have them, and that he knew that he had not previously declassified them and could no longer do so. This is a prosecutor’s dream, showing both recognition that he was breaking the law and intent. It is a damning piece of evidence.
The government reportedly obtained the recording of the meeting through a subpoena in March. The meeting itself took place in 2021 at Trump’s Bedminster, New Jersey resort. Two biographers were present at the meeting as well as former chief-of-staff Mark Meadows and several aides including communications specialist Margo Martin. There is no word on whether others present at the meeting might face charges, but it is likely that they have been interviewed by federal investigators.
Trump’s admissions on the recording dovetail with earlier reports of The Former Guy’s attempts to obstruct the FBI in recovering documents from Mar-a-Lago. Also previously known was that a statement put out by Team Trump denying that further classified documents were at the former president’s compound turned out to be a false claim.
Predictably, Republicans did not react well to the news that The Former Guy was being charged. As I pointed out yesterday Trump’s primary opponents have been hesitant to attack him. Many Republicans came out in open defense of Donald Trump, and many more launched attacks on the Justice Department.
Ron DeSantis predictably called the indictment “the weaponization of federal law enforcement,” but even more mainstream and sane Republicans attacked the system. For example, Tim Scott promised a “purge” of the justice system
Some Republicans went quiet. Nikki Haley had a string of Friday morning tweets about Biden’s energy plan while Mike Pence’s Twitter timeline was about campaign events.
Asa Hutchinson released a strong statement, saying that “Donald Trump’s actions – from his willful disregard for the Constitution to his disrespect for the rule of law – should not define our nation or the Republican Party,” and calling it a “sad day” and a distraction.”
Chris Christie was more measured in his response, saying, “We don’t get our news from Trump’s Truth Social account. Let’s see what the facts are when any possible indictment is released.”
“No one is above the law, no matter how much they wish they were,” Christie noted.
Such statements about the rule of law are common from Republicans, but this is where the rubber meets the road. To find out what Republicans really think about the rule of law, watch them over the next few days. Republicans who really believe in the rule of law will call for calm and let the process play out. Republicans who feel it’s more important to pander to Trump and his base will pour fuel on the fire and do things like compare our justice system to a “banana republic,” as Matt Walsh did.
In reality, the indictment shows that we are the opposite of a banana republic. In a banana republic, the top banana is unaccountable and can do whatever he wants with no fear of being held accountable. That’s the system that Matt Walsh and Ron DeSantis and Tim Scott seem to want.
In our system, where law the law reigns supreme, even presidents (and former presidents) have to obey the law. That is the very antithesis of a banana republic.
What the MAGA Republicans would have you believe is that Joe Biden had Donald Trump indicted for political reasons. The reality is that Joe Biden was not involved in the process.
The reality is that the Justice Department picked a special counsel to investigate the matter, specifically taking the Trump investigation out of the hands of the Biden Justice Department. The reality is that Special Counsel Jack Smith took the evidence to a federal grand jury. It was the grand jury, not Joe Biden, that indicted Donald Trump.
But the MAGA Republicans cannot admit these truths because doing so would require them to acknowledge that Donald Trump is at least incompetent and may well be corrupt. They cannot bring themselves to confront these truths because that would mean that they have to confront Trump and his base. That would likely mean the end of their careers since Donald Trump now is the Republican Party.
The Republican presidential candidates undoubtedly hope that the Trump indictment will remove Trump from the running. They won’t be that lucky. In the first place, we are only six months from the start of the primary season, and trials – especially big trials – don’t happen that fast.
In the second place, the candidates’ own attacks, not on Trump but on the justice system, will enable Republican voters to tune out the reality of Trump’s crimes. Republican voters will rally around Trump and repeat the Democratic mistake of 2016 by nominating a candidate who is under federal investigation. The spineless sycophancy of the Republican challengers is going to help to renominate Trump and then he will lose again in 2024.
I won’t say that it’s impossible for Trump to win re-election. After 2016, that’s a phrase I won’t use. I do think that Trump was very unlikely to win even before the indictment, however, and campaigning while dealing with a looming federal court case does not help his chances.
Far more dangerous than indicting a former president and/or current candidate are the attacks on the justice system that are intended to prop up a personality cult at the expense of undermining federal institutions. This is precisely what many of us were worried about when Donald Trump was elected.
Our constitutional Republic has been resilient. It took a long time to get to this point, but we have so far withstood what my friend Steve Berman once called a “stress test” of our Constitution and government. Our system has held up to the stress so far, no thanks to the MAGA Republicans and those who take the coward’s way out and go silent, but I wonder how long the stress can continue to be applied before something breaks.
To Quote Brother Koz – America may finally be healing . . . .Report
1. It is always worse than it looks;
2. Chances are he is still a lock for the 2024 Republican nominee for President of the United StatesReport
one fascinating thing for me in that second item – which I agree with – is going to be how he campaigns. I would thin once jury selection is complete he’d essentially have to be muzzled by his defense teams to have a shot at winning. And I just don’t see that happening.Report
That tape is just mind blowing- we’ve always known that Trump was deranged but to pull a Nixon? Just amazing.Report
I continue to be astounded that famous and powerful people in general have still not learned “Don’t record it or write it down unless you’re willing to have it appear in court.”Report
they don’t believe the rules apply to them. And they are mostly right.Report
The number who get caught, prosecuted, and punished for their misdeeds is really small. I bet recording this type of stuff is a type of game for them. They do it because it makes them feel immune from the rules.Report
I had a general understanding, see my comment to InMD, that Trump was unusually aware of that particular lesson. Evidently not.Report
It is pathological.Report
Ok, but up until now my general understanding was that Trump, himself, was especially squirrelly and sensitive about outright saying anything strictly illegal (and often even legible) and was famously averse to having things put down in writing so for him to be on tape stepping in it this bad is surprising. Possibly it’s because it involves document classification which he likely has never had any significant understanding of since it’s entirely alien to what he’d deal with in his “businesses”?Report
Maybe? My totally uninformed beyond what’s in the news take is that a lot of the previous efforts against him were clumsy thrusts based on murky facts, well post hoc and from times when Trump himself was probably not being watched very carefully. You can get away saying and doing all kinds of things when no one is really looking. That might even make someone appear smart or slippery in our system which really does require at least some evidence. But once you’re being watched, and know you’re being watched, and yet you’re still admitting to criminal conduct? Well… it makes me think he wasn’t all that slippery or self aware to begin with.
As an aside this is why I’ve found the stuff in NY to be so meh in terms of likely outcome and instead been waiting for Georgia where the facts are so simple, clear, and well established. But if he’s also going to openly admit to federal crimes, well, I’m not sure what the DOJ is supposed to do, and as a person who thinks the country will be way better off with him in prison I’ll take it.Report
Yeah I might be recalling his former longtime Lawyer saying something to that effect but I don’t like Trump live in my head for long so it’s only a vague association.
Agreed in total on the NY charges, they should have waited, but at least Trump gave the Feds some real meat to chew on.Report
We probably ought to put past presidents in the pokey for a couple years after they leave office just out of principle for the crimes they likely committed but got away with. DJT probably deserves several multiples of that.Report
At least as I understand it, on this particular subject, when Obama was going to leave the White House he called the National Archives and told them to come take everything, then send digital copies of things he was entitled to have to his library project. I vaguely recall thinking, when I saw that, “Dang! I wish someone would come scan everything in these file drawers and old lab notebooks, index it all, then send me a copy while the archivists worried about long-term preservation.”
Full disclosure: legally, I am probably not allowed to have possession of those lab notebooks, nor a bunch of archive CD-ROMs, nor stuff currently on my SSD. OTOH, a few years ago I got a call from a lawyer at the very large corporation that is entitled to have those things asking if I had a copy and could I send them one.Report
As per my other comment about how this will be a test of our citizenry and committment to democracy;
We already know that his support among the 70 some million voters is still strong.
We already know that thousands of them were willing to take part in a violent attempt to overthrow the election;
So if things come to pass and he is in fact convicted and thrown in jail; How hard is it to imagine that he will once again call on his supporters to violently attack the government?
How many do you suppose would heed the call?
How certain are you of your answer?Report
Fortunately, this is what I think most people these days think of with the phrase “Crossing the Rubicon.”
We may also take heart that many of the white supremacist or modern fascist groups that stocked the ranks of the J6 rioters and peripheral milita groups around the country have taken significant hits and many of their leaders are now in prison, and at least a substantial minority of their former believers have been disillusioned (by failure if nothing else).
That doesn’t mean the danger you write of is now in our past. It means we aren’t in as much trouble as we were on January 6, 2021.Report
Fortunately, this is what I think most people these days think of with the phrase “Crossing the Rubicon.”
Folk have lost their understanding of history.Report
I admit, I wondered if it wasn’t the case that he just kept stuff like his medical files (which are sensitive) and whatnot. Stuff that when he said “those are mine”, I might agree.
Well, lemme just say that this is well above and beyond anything that I would have believed was a worst-case scenario. Holy cow. It’s *NUTS*.Report
What I found effed up was I notice Bill Barr on television recently, as in Trumps former AG, and he said something to the fact that It’s not that Trump absconded with the docs that caused him the big trouble, it’s that he obfuscated, lied, obstructed and jerked around the authorities about the docs he absconded with for a year and a half that has him in deep crap. If he’d just given them all back when they first asked, or when they asked the tenth time or the fiftieth time it would all have just gone away.Report
This is the thread that I read. I think you will enjoy it too.
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It’s funny but also it doesn’t read as being particularly exaggerated. Dramatic but not exaggerated.Report
So you thought the FBI, DoJ and NARA were lying when they said he had retained highly classified documents?
Fascinating.Report
It seems a pretty open-and-shut case that could have easily been avoided if Trump had simply not thought of himself as beyond the law.Report