Trump Declares War on DeSantis
Reverberations of shock are cascading throughout the Republican world today as Donald Trump directly attacked Florida Governor Ron DeSantis. The attack, which took place at a rally in Pennsylvania, occurred two days before DeSantis faces voters in his re-election campaign.
Trump mocks DeSantis as "Ron DeSanctimonious" at a rally tonight in Pennsylvania. pic.twitter.com/efTl2vNQRB
— The Bias (@thebias_news) November 6, 2022
Make no mistake, even though The Former Guy’s christening of the Florida governor as “Ron Desanctimonious” as he cited 2024 primary polling numbers was low-key, it was also a direct slap in the face. The insult was the most overt confrontation between the two in a rivalry that has been ongoing but largely hidden for at least a year. The conflict stems from DeSantis’s apparent determination to run for president in 2024 regardless of whether Trump is a candidate.
Some Republican pundits pronounced surprise and dismay at Trump’s action. National Review’s Dan McLaughlin was typical of the response when he complained, “This does nothing for the team.”
The problem here is that Republicans like McLaughlin deluded themselves into thinking that Trump was on their team when, in reality, Trump had recruited them to Team Trump. There has always been a conspicuous dividing line between MAGA and the rest of the Republican Party.
Even as MAGA grew to encompass most of the GOP, the Trumpian faction was loyal to Donald Trump personally rather than supporting the party, conservative principles, or even duty to the country and Constitution. MAGA was always quick to denounce Republican leaders such as Mitch McConnell or Paul Ryan (or of course, Liz Cheney) as RINOs if they were deemed to be insufficiently loyal to The Donald.
Yet, in the six years since Trump descended the golden escalator, The Former Guy’s reluctant defenders in the GOP have never fully understood that loyalty is a one-way street for Trump. The Republican partisans are expected to look the other way at Trump’s executive abuses and cheerfully support his favored candidates, but they also don’t get to complain when Trump stabs a rival in the back just before a big election.
With Donald Trump, it’s always about Donald Trump. When Trump picked subordinates, it was about personal loyalty (i.e., not ratting out the boss) over competency. In 2020, it was about Trump explaining away his loss rather than getting two Georgia Republicans re-elected to the Senate for the good of the party. From 2022 to 2024, it’s going to be about kneecapping other Republicans who are a threat to Trump’s ambitions to return to the White House.
This one-sided loyalty means that the Republican partisans work very hard to get MAGA candidates elected because they are Republicans after all, but MAGA is quite happy to see traditional Republicans forced out or replaced, whether it’s by MAGA challengers or Democrats. The net effect is that the party becomes smaller in some places as Republicans lose to Democrats and more MAGA in others.
The end result may well be to strengthen Trump at the expense of traditional Republicans. If well-meaning Republicans work to get people like Dr. Oz, Herschel Walker, J.D. Vance, and Blake Masters elected, it won’t be conservatives who benefit but Donald Trump. One of my big concerns is that Trump is actively replacing elected officials who refused to back his attempt to steal the election with those who will be more acquiescent in the next crisis.
Trump taking on Ron DeSantis just before Election Day may be a lot of things, but it isn’t surprising. It is true to form and in keeping with Trump’s character as we’ve seen it for years. If you are surprised that Trump is not a team player, you’ve probably bought into the whitewashing of his narcissistic behavior over the past few decades.
Some of the pundits who are clutching their pearls over the attack probably convinced themselves that this time Trump would play ball with the team even though they should have known better. It was only a few months ago that many of the same people were shocked and dismayed when Trump backed Dr. Oz in the Pennsylvania primary over much more capable and conservative candidates. Competence and ability are not qualities that Trump values.
Despite his flaws, Donald Trump is still the frontrunner for the 2024 Republican primary. DeSantis is closest but trails by more than 20 points. Unless a miracle occurs, Trump will be the nominee, and when he does, the same Republican pundits who are fretting that Trump is not a team player will line up to vote for him out of party loyalty.
As the captain said in Cool Hand Luke, “Some men you just can’t reach.”
Republicans should have united against Trump in 2016. Now it’s too late. There is no scenario in which the GOP can extricate itself from the MAGA tar baby without doing serious damage to the party.
At this point, there seem to be two options. The first is to battle with Trump for the 2024 nomination and the soul of the party. This will be an ugly battle and there is no assurance that the remaining traditional Republicans would win.
The irony is that by building Trump up and papering over his flaws for the past six years, the Republican establishment has allowed him to become the quintessential conservative fighter. They thought they could control him or that he would be grateful for their help. They were wrong on both counts.
The second option and only alternative is to simply surrender to Trump’s will and hand the party over to him. This is the course Republicans have taken since 2016, but even uniting the party under Trumpism does not assure the party of electoral victories. There is plenty of evidence that Trump and his picks are electoral poison outside of deep red states.
Both choices seem equally unpalatable.
There is a right choice and a wrong choice, however unpalatable. The right thing to do is to confront the man who engineered a hostile takeover of the Republican Party and who tried his (not very good) best to steal the 2020 election.
The right course for both Republicans and for the country is to put an end to the MAGA domination of the party. In 2016 and again in 2020, I thought that would be done quickly, but there is a long struggle ahead and it hasn’t even begun.
At this point, there seem to be two options. The first is to battle with Trump for the 2024 nomination and the soul of the party. This will be an ugly battle and there is no assurance that the remaining traditional Republicans would win.
It also has the benefit of putting distance between DeSantis and Trump. Let’s say that you found Trump off-putting despite finding the Democrats off-putting.
DeSantis is obviously not a Democrat and he’s obviously not a Trumper.
Ah. Whew.
I will be interested in seeing whether the “DeSantis is even worse than Trump!” attacks get off the ground.Report
Unless Trump is hauled of fin irons before November 2024 he will be the GOP nominee. DeSantis running is as much about a marker for 2028 as anything.Report
I don’t know.
Remember how, in 2015 or whatever, Trump attacked the Iraq War? I remember dropping my jaw. He was the only guy who was able to say “Yeah, Iraq was a mistake.” I think that this was the first moment that I switched from saying “Trump is a clown” to “holy crap, Trump might win”.
DeSantis is able to attack Trump. And he isn’t attacking Trump from the left.Report
It couldn’t happen to a nicer or more deserving guy. At this point, people if you are willing to sell your sole to Trump. Trump, a person who throws everyone under the bus and then kicks them in the kidneys for good measure, you are kind of asking for it.
Or as Leeesq would paraphrase “For Trump? Why Richard, it profit a man nothing to give his soul for the whole world. . . but for Trump!”Report
Some say that Operation Barbarossa will result in a Notsee victory. But here in this Minsk diner, the regulars are sticking with Stalin.Report
Chip, it’s the 21st century. Ukrainians are the good guys and the Belorussians are the bad guys. Get with the updated alliances. ;).Report
Despite all the back stabbing between themselves, the Reactionary Right could still win because they are animated by the spirit of brutality.Report
Astute analysis, not to mention superb photo selection.
I think things have a chance to play out differently than in 2016. Unlike the previous Florida governor who the GOP tried to anoint as nominee (Jeb!), Desantis has the capacity to punch the bully in the mouth. I don’t anticipate him getting steamrolled like the candidates in that cycle. And his performance in the GOP debates can change poll numbers quickly. Especially when people realize they have a better chance of regaining the White House with a strong nominee without Trump’s baggage.Report
Trump won the nod the first time with a plurality. Looking at voting statistics within the GOP, the MAGA contingent is big enough to do that again. DeSantis won’t shake them loose for his own use.Report
Outside of dem voter fever dreamers who think 98% of the Republican party is MAGA, I’m not sure anyone has any idea how large the MAGA contingent really is. I guess we shall see soon enough when the Primary season begins, state by state.Report
The Republicans who voted in Mississippi’s primary all seem to identify as MAGA. They dumped the incumbent in my district because, while he was Trumpy, he wasn’t Trumpy enough.Report
I’ll take your word for it, but the GOP nomination isn’t going to be won or lost because of Republican voters in Mississippi.Report
also true. Given what polling is available, MAGA identified Republican voters are between 42% and 48% of self-identified Republicans. Subject to the polling issues we have already discussed.Report
Nine Republican House incumbents and six Democratic House incumbents lost their primaries, higher than usual but still a tiny number. From what I can tell, your incumbent was under House investigation. But sure, the MAGA unprecedented control thing.Report
When you point at a pig and say “that pig’s filthy”, you’re not necessarily surprised by it. You’re calling attention to it though.Report
I already voted for DeSantis just because he’s going to try to steal the prize away from Trump. Early voting here translates into “open the booths for the week before the date and keep them open”.
I’m also not going to vote for Trump. He tried to overturn an election. Just to make a point I might vote the rest of the Red ticket and then nope.Report
DeSantis is a lesser evil, but you need a micrometer to measure it.Report
Well, this particular narrative just got really interesting.
I understand that Trump *WAS* going to announce his candidacy on the heels of a red wave.
Now I understand that that plan is experiencing friction. Betting sites have DeSantis as more likely than Trump (and going up) and Trump is almost at half-price of DeSantis (and going down).Report
I can hope, but I still don’t see Trump being able to walk away from a spotlight. He didn’t have the greatest staff for 2016, and he alienated most of those, then did the same with a worse staff in 2020, so who knows who has his ear these days?
ETA: He may be waiting for one of the closer recounts to break for one of his endorsed candidates. Or maybe he wants to go up and destroy Georgia some more.Report
I find it hard to picture Trump letting another GOP politician run for President.
He does that, Biden isn’t especially strong, DeSantis(?) wins, and then DeSantis will be President for 8 years and Trump will be nothing.Report
I understand that Trump called Fox “Fake News” earlier today on Truth Social.
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Also, the WSJ just published excerpts from Pence’s new book. I imagine Trump would be getting some of this heat even if the 2022 results had been different, but there’s a unanimity I’ve never seen before.Report
This makes the Georgia gambit more likely.
Nuke Georgia, screw you guys, I’m going home.
(The House should try to impeach him again!)Report
An impeachment would be the best thing for his image right now.
The thing I’m wondering about is, what do you promise the guy in exchange for shutting up? I think he thinks he’s untouchable legally, and there’s no $ that can tempt him. There’s no position you can offer him in a future administration – maybe UN ambassador, but who would have the guts to offer that? You can let him feel like a kingmaker, but as Dark Matter points out, he has no interest in making other people king. What you can do is promise to make him president of Liberty University, then put a giant tupperware container over Virginia.Report
There’s nothing to offer him. He needs to keep going down in flames, and frankly I still expect he will be indicted in Georgia and probably federally. Especially if democrats retain even a slim majority in the House.
IF he is convicted of things then MAYBE he will be forced aside. IF I was Mitch McConnell and Rupert Murdoch that’s what I’d be rooting (and maybe working behind the scenes) for.Report
Trying to predict Trumps behavior is impossible because he is a narcissistic sociopath and his only constant is whatever feeds his ego at any given moment.
Being indicted then whipping up a violent mob to assault the Capitol/ State Capitol/ courthouse might be enticing to him.Report
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There’s nothing easier than to predict the actions of a narcissist. Changing them – or inducing thoughtful consideration on the narcissist’s part – that’s the tough thing.Report
And another blow.
This isn’t the only thing that needs to happen to make Trump go away, but it’s one of the things that needs to happen to make Trump go away.Report
I thought Trump always had a great relationship with the blacks. I guess she’s not “[his] African-American” any more.Report