On Flying Cars and Why We Still Aren’t The Jetsons
“Flying,” Douglas Adams once quipped, “is learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
Welp…by that standard the ongoing drive to produce commercially viable flying cars is a can’t miss prospect, with the ground being hit every single time.
Last week, the secretive air-taxi start-up Kittyhawk, run by Google veteran Sebastian Thrun, announced on Twitter that it was going to “wind down.” It was one of a handful of companies working to bring a “Jetsons” like reality to the world, where electric-powered cars, planes and helicopters become commonplace and offer clean-burning modes of transportation to a world of clogged and polluted streets.
After launching over a decade ago, the flying car company backed by Google co-founder Larry Page garnered fanfare typical of moonshot ideas championed by Silicon Valley titans — and was largely seen as one of the most likely to make a breakthrough.
“Silicon Valley [is] constantly putting out these ideas for how we solve the problems of transportation and urban life with new technologies,” said Paris Marx, a technology critic and host of the podcast Tech Won’t Save Us. “That has been an utter failure.”
Kittyhawk, like many of its competitors, made bold promises on its website of building a fleet of air-taxis that are “ultra-quiet and battery-efficient,” and could fly hundreds of miles on a single charge while being nearly silent within 30 seconds of taking off. “If anyone can do this,” the company’s site said, “we can.”
Representatives from Kittyhawk did not return a request for comment.
The start-up’s collapse highlights the challenges in mastering flying transportation, experts said. Battery technology needs to advance far past its current state. Getting regulatory approval for flying cars will be difficult. And the infrastructure to support a world of flying cars and vehicles is a vastly complex challenge.
“Even Elon Musk has said: everything works in PowerPoint,” said Peter Rez, an emeritus physics professor from Arizona State University, but “things are never going to work as advertised.”
Investors have poured billions into start-ups looking to change how people get around. In 2021, air mobility start-ups raked in record $6.9 billion in investment, a large chunk of which went to electric vehicles that take off and land, known as eVTOLs. The pace of funding slowed in the first half of 2022, McKinsey analysts noted.
Despite the cash, flying cars have suffered a string of major setbacks, according to media reports. A Forbes investigation of Kittyhawk in 2019 alleged the company was plagued with battery and safety issues.
Rez said lithium-ion battery problems will be a constant challenge for the industry. They output energy at a 50 times less efficient rate than their gasoline counterparts, requiring more to be on board, adding to cost and flying car and plane weight.
Companies are clinging to hope that battery technology will advance rapidly, he said, though it’s not clear when that will happen.
Transportation is a very complex field that works toward a very simple goal: Getting folks & things from point A to point B on time, consistently, at a price folks can afford, to do the things they need to get done. There are many technological, logistical, and regulatory challenges that have kept the flying car relegated to the occasional demo product and the Jetsons-style sci-fi scene. But the easiest explanation to why we don’t have flying cars, and won’t for the foreseeable future, is a much simpler matter: they are not practical and complicate rather than simplify the problem they are meant to solve.
All these “moonshot” Silicon Valley startups operate under the idea that any idea is solvable with enough money, resources, and engineering. Which is true in a way and works great on paper while looking tantalizingly within reach on Power Point. But things like transportation don’t happen on paper, they happen in the dynamic, ever-changing real world. Transportation is a business that is all about getting X person/thing to Y destination, in Z amount of time for a price. Individual transportation is mostly about need: getting to work, getting to the store, getting kids to school, getting home again afterwards. Transportaion for those businesses and folks are mostly cost-benefit calculations more than anything else, and top of the list line items on budgets. For every on-paper argument about “point-to-point” or individual mobility there are going to be dozens of counterpoints that don’t show up on the start up’s pitch pages about cost, time, infrastructure, regulations, unproven technology, capacity limits, and on and on and on. Maybe it is true all that can be overcome with near unlimited money and R & D, but the average business or average family doesn’t run off ifs and maybes, they are too busy getting from point A to point B because they have to survive by doing so.
Whenever these “moonshot” startups throwing out big ideas to rake in big time funding, the best thing to do is compare it with the readily recognizable revolution of the smart phone. The iPhone and following smart phones changed almost everything by making life simpler, easier, more accessible, faster to access and accomplish the things folks were already doing while opening up unlimited possibilities of new things. Thus, the first questions to always ask of these startups, even ones with very old ideas and aspirations like flying cars, is “is this removing barriers or adding them to get to the stated goal?” Flying cars fail that test on every level, as do many of the more ambitious startup “moonshots”.
“This is going to make life better” and “this will revolutionize how X group does Y thing” are great goals to shoot for with technological innovation. When evaluating the potential of the next NEXT BIG THING! some simple questions about the practical application usually help cut through the noise. If it makes life simpler, easier, more cost efficient for the targeted market, the chance for success is there. If it only makes the fundraising for capital investment with no practical path to a viable commercial concern anywhere in the near future, beware.
Flying cars have always tantalized the imagination. Imagination sells well in pitching moonshot startups to the well-heeled tech titans. But transportation is business of “it works, or it doesn’t”, point A to point B, of necessity and function over style and form. Imagination and reality occasionally cross paths and change the world, like the advent of sailing ships, automobiles, flying machines, and rockets that put humans and objects beyond our own world. But mostly they run on historical parallel tracks, and realizing the difference for the tech titans is proving to be a costly – mostly futile – enterprise. Those slide deck pitches, like The Jetsons, just have to look cool. Transportation has to work on time, consistently, at a price folks can afford, to do the things they need to get done. The world of nearly unlimited investment money isn’t the real world of spending very limited funds on rather expensive things like transportation needs.
Things that are different are not the same. No matter how much money you throw at it.
Good. More money for hyperloops.
“Rez said lithium-ion battery problems will be a constant challenge for the industry. They output energy at a 50 times less efficient rate than their gasoline counterparts, requiring more to be on board, adding to cost and flying car and plane weight.”
I would simply use gasoline.Report
Exactly.
The biggest problem is that making things fly through the air takes much more energy than rolling them along the ground.
Were it not for this fact, airplanes would have replaced trains and freight ships long ago.Report
The best things that anyone can do for transit are find ways to make public transit (those things that take lots of people places) and make them more reliable, more comfortable, and more servicable to more areas. However, in the United States half the country thinks that suggesting this means you have a direct line and kinship with Kim Jong-un. The other half debates with much intensity and passion on whether stating “Hey, maybe people blasting music loudly on speakers on the bus/train car turns off and depresses ridership” is racist or not.
Public transit exists in this weird nowhere land of being a social services (i.e. for people with less than moderate incomes) and a general government service meant for all people. This means that you have an inbuilt tension over people who advocate for more public transit from the general public service/environmental side as compared to the social service side (which gets defensive and aggressive when you suggest music blaring loudly on buses and trains is sub-optimal for a ridership prospective).
For the Jetson things, too much money sloshing around in V.C. Tax them more.Report
I actually had a chat, on other unrelated topics, with a woman from Jamaica IIRC. She said she would NEVER live anywhere that was accessible by public transportation. As a long time resident of around DC, she knew the implications of that statement.Report
Between, MARC, VRE, Metro and the various bus networks, you have to live WAY out to be away from something in DC that is not accessible by Public Transit. Even Metro feeds some toney neighborhoods (East Falls Church) and MARC goes to Harper’s Ferry WV.Report
In SF (and many issues), the big issue (pre and presumably post COVID) is that it is very easy to get from your neighborhood to the downtown core (most buses and rail ran east to west) was pretty easy. Getting from neighborhoods on a north-south or not east to west plain required more planning.Report
Indeed. Given that, and based upon some other comments, I think she was really looking to avoid bus routes. Even if a metro train station is nearby, a mile or three is still a significant distance if you’re walking.Report
Her choice, but it’s not one that is supported by a lack of access in the DC Metro area. And frankly I rode the bus nearly as much as I rode Metro while living there and had no real issues.Report
Let’s say my limited experience with the DC metro system has been uniformly “meh”. It appears to be better than NYC, but that’s a low bar. My use has been outside “commuter times”, but I’ve found the cars dirty, often with loud kids playing loud music and breakdancing (that’s still a thing?) Maybe they were doing some tik tok stuff? I’d never call it a pleasant experience and i’m a live and let live kinda guy.Report
The other issue with transit in North America is that politicians implement policies that make driving much cheaper than it really should be by making sure parking is readily available, gas is cheap, and most highways are free rather than toll. This is because citizens would vote them out of office if cars are realistically expensive to drive. I also note that many people who would be economically off driving transit prefer to drive absolute beat up cars rather than take transit.
Developed with high transit use generally do so by a carrot and stick. The carrot is frequent, reliable, and comfortable service. The stick is policies that make car priced accordingly. Even the best transit can’t compete with the point A to point B of a car and you don’t have to deal with annoying people on transit either. So you need to make driving pricey and difficult enough to get people who can afford a car, not to drive.Report
As others have noted, fares cover only a small fraction of the cost of mass transit. Just before Covid, I lived in a west Denver suburb and was converting to light/commuter rail to go downtown to the big library, the art museum, the performing arts center, etc. It was finally, after 30 years in that suburb, easier and less expensive than driving. The subsidy was still clear — I got a ridiculous fare because I was an oldster, I was mostly riding in a 45-seat train car with two other people, on right-of-way that cost more than $100M per mile to acquire/build. And to be perfectly honest, if I was going to a fencing studio, would have had to hike more than two miles each way from the station, regardless of the weather, because fencing is a small-time sport and can’t afford space any closer to the nearest station than that.Report
Exactly. It wasn’t that the Jetsons had flying cars, it was the kind of flying cars they had. They didn’t just fly, they solved all the problems that personal ground vehicles have. Autonomous control, clearly, to enable bumper-to-bumper dense sky lanes without accidents. No at-grade crossings. No merging problems. No stopping to drop the kids off — don’t underestimate the little one-person anti-gravity vehicles they used to drop Elroy and Judy off at school. No requirement for storage space — George’s four-person vehicle folded up to briefcase size. Perfect personal transportation, without any of the problems of either today’s personal vehicles or today’s mass transit.Report
Let’s call a spade a spade- they were magic cars.Report
Of course they were. Rosey was also magic, given that they apparently wedged all of the AI in there, plus the power storage, plus the sensors and actuators…
I have a first draft of a fantasy novel (part urban fantasy, part parallel world sorcery, part economic/political theory) that I’m not at all happy with. I’ve started working on short stories to fill in some of the characters’ back stories a bit and strive for consistency in the magic before trying a rewrite. Where I seem to be headed is every bit of choice in the magic spell bound to an object pushes the spell farther towards sentience. Eg, in an enchanted sword that can’t be resheathed until it’s drawn blood, the spell has to make choices. Does nicking my own fingertip with it count? How about squirrels? Do I have to kill an opposing knight or just wound them? Does the spell evolve to match the owner of the sword? At some point the spell wakes up…Report
Someone on Twitter pointed out that all these tech guys keep putting all this work into weird blockchain/crypto-currency scams, when you could just make a 3D-rendering of a rocket and claim you’re gonna knock Lockheed off their perch and VC people will bury you in money because they have absolutely no resistance to aerospace scams…Report
Flying Cars are also one of those “it would be easy to (thing) and solve the problem, why doesn’t anyone just (thing)” “because you’re right that (thing) is easy but you’re wrong that it’s the problem” situations that so often come up in engineering.Report
If we had flying cars, imagine the carnage between mid-air collisions and cars falling from the sky or flying into buildings.
And where would you park them?Report
See my comment above — there’s flying cars, then there’s the flying cars that the Jetsons had, which solved all those problems.Report
Considering how bad people do with normal driving, I can’t imagine the issues that would come from flying cars.Report
See my comment above — there’s flying cars, then there’s the flying cars that the Jetsons had, which solved all those problems.Report
We aren’t going to get Jetson’s magic flying cars. We are going to get flying cars that show us to be human, oh so terribly human.Report