Retire and Move to Florida, They Said: Part Three: The Move

John McCumber

John McCumber is a cybersecurity executive, retired US Air Force officer, and former Cryptologic Fellow of the National Security Agency. In addition to his professional activities, John is a former Professorial Lecturer in Information Security at The George Washington University in Washington, DC and is currently a technical editor and columnist for Security Technology Executive magazine. John is the author of the textbook Assessing and Managing Security Risk in IT Systems: a Structured Methodology

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  1. KenB says:

    My wife and I have been talking abstractly about downsizing for the last five years, but the reality of what that means has so far kept us from actually doing anything about it. I’d love to stop wasting money maintaining a house that’s now way too big for us — but we always manage to find plenty of excuses to put it off just a little longer.Report

  2. Jaybird says:

    Maribou and I have decided to downsize. Now, we’re not downsizing over the summer or next year or anything but we agreed that 10,000 books is too many and, yes, we probably want to move from a 3-story house into something more ranchy and maybe even not have mortgage payments anymore? Maybe?

    Not, you know, *RETIRE* but maybe wander away from working at a place that manufactures crises every 20 minutes to one that only has one crisis a day.

    I’m sorry that your first offer fell through… but I hope the second one got you to where you want to be. GOOD LUCK.Report

    • North in reply to Jaybird says:

      Colorado though, isn’t the housing market utterly bugfish there? I suppose since you have a house to sell the fact that the houses to buy will be nutso prices isn’t such a concern?Report

      • Michael Cain in reply to North says:

        What would you like? I can show you housing along the Front Range where the prices are insanely high, and appreciating at well over 10% per year. I can show you places out on the eastern plains where they are on the verge of paying you to take possession and pay the property taxes. Older folks looking for cheap retirements generally look a bit closer, though, and decide that 90 minutes for the ambulance make those plains communities very dangerous places to live. Stuff that’s routinely recoverable in Denver, Colorado Springs, or Fort Collins is lethal in a bunch of those counties.

        Or if you would prefer a different sort of risk, I can show you a quite nice place sitting in the middle of a quarter-million acres of dead trees. Given the right weather conditions, the little fire 30 miles away blows up and wipes you out in a day.

        Too hijack the thread, US federal policy with respect to climate change — or a complete failure to address the issue — has ruined a ton of valuable real estate.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to North says:

        It is. And we bought a house around 2003 that is walking distance from the little SLAC and biking distance from what used to be called “downtown” and, if you talked to me at any point between 2003 and 2010, I’d have told you that I got ripped off and that I was exceptionally resentful about it.

        But now it is 2022.
        And the houses in my neighborhood now go for $YGTBFKM.

        I am still carrying a mortgage for $X. If I can get a house for $YGTBFKM-$X, I only have to worry about taxes and fees and what have you. (Well, plus money for the realtor and money for the movers and whatnot.)Report

  3. Damon says:

    This is looming in my future. Unfortunately, I’ve been charged with family heirlooms to the next generation for a lot of stuff. Tough part is finding someone who wants it on one side, and finding someone, anyone, on the other. The second likely will require some paid investigation work and a complicated will…. Ush. And I have my own crap to unload.Report

    • Jaybird in reply to Damon says:

      Half of me wonders if “furnished” is still a thing.

      Hey, it’s got some beds in it and some couches in the basement! No, they don’t smell like cat pee. You’re imagining things.Report

      • Michael Cain in reply to Jaybird says:

        Fortunately our townhouse had a basement. I can make you some attractive prices on quite nice furniture that I couldn’t get rid of before we moved now that my wife won’t remember it after it’s been gone for a week.Report

  4. Michael Cain says:

    When we sold our house 18 months ago, the realtor told us to absolutely empty it. Then she brought in the professional cleaners, and a firm that does staging. The staging furniture certainly made the rooms look big and attractive, but I don’t think any of it would last long in real life.Report

    • DensityDuck in reply to Michael Cain says:

      Staging? ech. I’ve sold two houses. One of them had my furniture in it and sat for a month, and then we cleared it out and it sold the next day. The other was professionally-staged and sold the day we listed it to someone who later said she was just happy to find any house in her price range. I don’t think “having stuff in the place” helps sell the place, although it certainly makes the listing photos look nicer.Report

  5. Jennifer Worrel says:

    I think you should do a part 4: Life in Florida. What it has been like to embrace your new locale.Report

  6. DensityDuck says:

    You did touch on this, but an important part of downsizing is to start out with the assumption (or maybe the recognition) that nothing you own is worth anything to anybody other than you.

    The next step is the recognition that even things which have value usually cost more to sell than you’ll get from selling them. (And that includes “money spent on storage space for them until they’re sold”.)

    If you had something that was genuinely valuable and you’d make money selling it, you’d already know, because people would have been asking to buy it from you. Other than that, just hire a household-auction company to clear the place out and pay you by weight.

    Maybe if you’re part of a particular collecting subculture and you know that you have pieces that are rare finds you could advertise to other members, but that will be more single-item sales so that people can fill in holes on their shelf, and (as I said) they’ll be unlikely to pay much more than shipping cost, so only do this if you want to keep the pieces out of a landfill or a kid’s bedroom.Report

    • Jaybird in reply to DensityDuck says:

      We are lucky in that some of the kids we know will be moving into their own places right around the time that we want to start downsizing furniture. Hey, need a kitchen table and a couple of chairs? Need a couch? Need a rocking chair?

      HAVE I GOT SOME GOOD NEWS FOR YOU!

      Would you like a hand-painted bell pepper on a chunk of wood suitable for hanging in the kitchen? Well, tough. It comes with the rocking chair.Report