Nikole Hannah-Jones Rejects UNC Chapel Hill, Joins Ta-Nehisi Coates At Howard

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8 Responses

  1. Jaybird says:

    The funniest possible outcome.

    And everybody’s happy.Report

  2. Pinky says:

    Coates doesn’t have a college degree? I’ve changed my opinion on this over the years; I used to think that expertise in the field was more important than academic background, but all future interpretations of the students’ transcripts will assume that the students have been in a proper class, and that ultimately wins out in my mind.Report

  3. Marchmaine says:

    I’m not exactly on team 1619… but it strikes me as not quite the flex people are suggesting.

    That is, if this were, say, a break-out Aquinas scholar revising history and moral philosophy in the public sphere, then taking tenure at UNC (or similar) is arguably the bigger step forward than securing a seat at Catholic U (also) in DC.

    Catholic U/Howard upgrading and doubling down on their Niche is good for those institutions… but if the goal is breaking out and revising… then go with UNC.Report

    • InMD in reply to Marchmaine says:

      It doesn’t matter when the game is general prestige and wealth for the individual, not serious scholarship or even team wins. I have no doubt UNC is about as woke as any other state school but there’s still a chance someone there might ask her a hard question every once in awhile. Why risk it at all?Report

      • Marchmaine in reply to InMD says:

        Hence, not a flex. But I will leave room for simple personal gain depending on how much Howard was willing to fork over. Has that been reported?

        But yes, the precariousness of ‘winning’ in the History and Philosophy of Ideas space leads to fairly predictable game theory outcomes at the individual level.Report

        • InMD in reply to Marchmaine says:

          I’m probably jumping the gun on ‘wealth’ and should have said something broader (and easier to defend) like personal advancement. I don’t know what they’re paying her. Maybe nothing at all and the compensation is prestige and relevance and willingness of other people to describe her as an expert.Report