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Comments on Open Mic for the week of 3/10/25 by LeeEsq in reply to North

I'm sorry but the anti-Zionists always claim to not be anti-Semitic but then they do things like go to random Jewish neighborhoods and yell and hit at residents like a crowd of protestors did at Boro Park, Brooklyn in late February this year. They don't say what Jews should have done in light of the exclusion and persecution we faced. Many of them even pretend it never existed.

Anti-Zionists at best demonstrate serious antipathy towards the Jewish people and basically find us an ideological nuisance. They have this neat cosmology in their heads and Jews don't fit into it.

What I think they want is for the Jews to be seen and not heard. They want us to exist in obscure little islands that keep to ourselves while the big block groups that they love get to make a noise.

The Courts don't shut down immediately but they do eventually shut down.

Being a citizen comes with responsibility. I don't like how the trend is to permit the abrogation of citizenship responsibilities.

Has it ever occurred to you that maybe people can try to bel less evil overall rather than having the forces of liberalism continually have to compromise to get the votes of the less evil of the evil people?

The Jerusalem Post puts the vote for Harris between 63% or 71%. 66% is still an overwhelming majority if that is the correct figure.

https://www.jpost.com/diaspora/article-832086

American Jews voted overwhelmingly for Harris.

Heritage Foundation drafts report calling for end of U.S. aid to Israel. So much that the Right is better for Jews:

https://jewishinsider.com/2025/03/heritage-foundation-prepared-report-calling-for-ending-u-s-aid-to-israel/

A lot of the Pro-Palestinian activist in the West argue that the only just solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict is in fact the disappearance of Israel. Sometimes this involves a South African solution and sometimes this involves all the Jews going "home." This is why they adopted the specific framework of anti-Zionism and settler-colonialism during the protests and chanted "from the River to the Sea, Palestine should be free" and said that Israeli Jews should go back to Poland.

There is no evidence that they are lying when they say that or whether they, and the Palestinians themselves, will back down if given the WB and Gaza.

The bomb is kind of useless if it can never be used. If people think that Israel needs to withdraw from the West Bank and end the blockade of Gaza without any real deal and just endure a certain amount of terrorism, they should say so.

There seems to be a gigantic one way street where only Israel has agency and the Palestinians lack all agency. This one way street can be expanded to cover Jewish-Muslim relations globally, where the entire burden falls on Jews and we have to offer all olive branches while the Muslims get to treat Jews with horrible arrogance.

TL/DR version: With the left, I always get the feeling that they always want Jews to support them because of our history of persecution. At the same time, they would deny us the things they grant to other groups they like because we are wypipo doing wypipo things. It is absolute demand for support in one hand and complete denial of rights in the other hand.

Like Dark Matter says, there should be at least some consistency in this. There are people who can speak about the evils of Western imperialism in "Islamic lands" without irony but also lambast Israel for being an "evil racist ethnostate" at the same time. You can't have it both ways. You can't say that "Muslim state/lands good, Jewish state bad" unless you are an Islamic theocrat.

The other big issue is that we Jews are always taught to support this or that cause because of our history of persecution but at the same time not treated as a real minority. At best we get "well, I guess it's good that the Jews preserved their own culture" while celebrating other oppressed groups with masturbatory delight. At worse we Jews are called insular, clannish, greedy, and guilty of dual loyalty and international conspiracy for wanting the same things that other groups want.

Russia looks like it is following the example of Hamas.

More on the law in the Khalil case. This is what a colleague believes is going to be applied. The relevant seems statute in the INA is 8 USC 1227(a)(4)(C), which allows for deportability when the Secretary of State has reasonable grounds to believe that a noncitizen's presence or activities in the United States will have serious adverse foreign policy consequences. The requirements to prove this are not high. They are very low. The relevant decision interpreting the statute is Matter of Ruiz-Massieu, 23 I&N Dec. 833 (BIA 1999). All is required is that the Secretary of State send a letter that sets forth a "facially reasonable and bona fide basis" for a determination of adverse foreign policy consequences.

Since we are on the subject of the I/P conflict, the Pro-Palestinian movement shot itself and the Palestinians that they allegedly cared about in the foot by adopting the anti-Zionist framing for their protests against Israel in the Israel-Hamas War. It basically made an alliance with Netanyahu's critics in Israel, including the families of the hostages, impossible and kept a lot of Diaspora Jews away at the same time. If they didn't make the entire thing about Zionism and Settler-Colonialism and basically realized that Israel's 7 million plus Jews or Israel isn't going anywhere, which nearly all of the surrounding countries accept at this point, than they could have actually had a more productive protest movement.

Not surprisingly, I agree with this analysis. There are dozens of states that call themselves specifically Arab and/or Muslim complete with blasphemy laws, apostasy laws, and Sharia influencing actual law. Even for the people who don't like it, the general attitude is that there is nothing we can do about it.

Plenty of other ethnostates elsewhere in the world like Japan, South Korea, North Korea, and Thailand that put their ethnic identity front and center. Even many European states do this in hard or soft matters.

It is the one Jewish state that gets criticized by the Left a lot because the Left considers Israel de facto illegitimate. If Jews still existed in Muslim majority countries and felt alienated by Islam being front and center than the entire world would just shrug at that.

It's a habeus corpus petition.

It turns out that my suspicion is right:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/tally-3

My impression that enough Senate Democrats were just going to cave in return for nothing to avoid a budget fight.

Gennocide denialism? Like how people deny what was going on in the Syrian Civil War or Yemeni Civil War, whose death tolls far exceeded the entire I/P conflict, but wail and wail about Israel? Or the people who meet the killings of Alawites in Syria with a shrug while they would jump up and down and demand international action against Israel and every Israeli?

I mean getting concessions and then having them ignored does make you look impotent as an individual politician and as a political party.

Other languages aren't exactly that creative when naming people either. Mahmoud and other variants of Mohammed are just as common as variants of John are in the West. Family names repeat a lot just like Smith, Baker, and Johnson repeat a lot.

Update, Khalil apparently showed up on the ICE tracker in a Louisiana detention center.

Even if the allegations against Khalil are significant to result in removal under the law, the real big issue is that nobody knows where the fish he is. You are supposed to be able to use the ICE detainee tracker to find out where he is being held and nobody can find out this information. There are procedures that need to be followed and they are not being followed in a very disturbing manner.

The low definition of genocide thing is pretty much baked into the Convention Against Genocide, which adopted a pretty broad standard for it to prevent wiggle room at trials.

The arguments regarding the Israel-Hamas War regarding genocide is that the Pro-Palestinian faction is using the broad language of the Convention while the Pro-Israel faction is using the more colloquial definition of genocide and everybody is talking past each other. The Pro-Israel side is skeptical of the Pro-Palestinian side because they never seem to have used the broad definition before in regards to the I/P conflict and because they don't apply this to say the Syrian Civil War or Yemeni Civil War.

My guess is that the Pro-Palestinian side decided to latch onto the broad definition of genocide in the Geneva Convention because they needed to district from Hamas and 10/7.

The answer is that it depends on a variety of factors including a lot of lawyers doing their lawyer thing and what immigration judge the get to. The material support for terrorist bar is pretty draconian and a low one for DHS to meet. It also always occurs doing stuff outside the United States not inside the United States.

What I suspect the DHS argument is going to be is that this guy made a material misrepresentation on his green card application for not disclosing his support of Hamas on it, which is a terrorist group.

One of my new theories and it is mine is that a decent chunk of the left remains politically ineffectual because they want to be tribunes of the oppressed rather than leaders of a majority. You don't need to compromise on your positions if you are a tribune of the oppressed but can remain strident and adamant on every issue. When seeking to lead a majority, you need to compromise quit a bit to get the majority cobbled together.

You were being a constant stream of wolf allegations because they were the correct allegations to make.

People were warned by the Democratic Party during the 2024 elections. Too many people did not believe what the Democratic Party said would happen and voted for Trump or decided to do KDP cosplay and say the Democrats were worse. The people in defiance are still raising their fists in blood thirsty defiance.

This is classic dictator stuff. People need to take warning.

 

 

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