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It's the deepest state, far deeper than president Biden's. No one has ever had a deeper state, not in the history of our country.

Always worth remembering that no Clinton has held office for 12 years or run for any office in nearly 10. Love them or hate them one can fairly ask what the statute of limitations is on the Clintons. 2030? 2040? Whenever they're both dead?

I'd give Trump a point for maybe not being as dumb as I think he is if he fired Waltz. Remember one of his big lines at the debate with Biden? 'He never fires anyone!' Well here you are Donald. Fire somebody.

Yea but that's kind of what I mean. Biden was apparently in a state of serious cognitive decline. As reluctant as I was to believe that* it's something I've over time been convinced very likely explains a lot of the more baffling turns of his administration.

What's Trump's excuse? That they're just as out of their depth as the administration's harshest critics have been saying? No possible answer is a good one nor is it the kind of thing that lends itself to keeping score.

*I can take an L, it is what it is.

Eh that may just be a point of disagreement. I would be surprised if more than 3 out of 10 American voters even know who Lloyd Austin is. A solid 8 out of 10 know who Donald Trump is and one of the things they know about him is 'he isn't like normal politicians.' That's been a boon to him but it's the kind of thing that can cut both ways.

I think looking at this as a set of side by side tally marks fails to capture what's really going on. Clinton's email server was damaging politically because it played into a larger, cross partisan narrative about her sense of entitlement to power and/or that the normal rules don't apply. Even Hilary supporters, if they're being honest, have to admit that this was a problem for her and her political brand. The Lloyd Austin thing was bad but I don't think it really registers the same way. At this stage it's a partisan talking point that may still play well on Twitter but in real life no one cares or remembers it.

Bringing it to Trump, this is a real problem for him because one of the narratives that he and his set of uh... unconventional cabinet officials are up against is the perception that they're idiots. Even if Republicans don't agree, or think it's something that can be worked around, understand could go cross partisan and overall is a liability that they can't let get out of control.

I assume they have multiple threads along the lines of the below:

https://www.imightbewrong.org/p/the-trump-administration-also-texted

Ahem. Phishing of course.

Not to totally rehash other comments I made on open mic but this illustrates the folly of filling up the senior ranks of the administration with people who have never really done anything, at least in terms of leading a big organization. This isn't to say many companies in the private sector have not found themselves in the position where they found out the dolt that clicked the dumbest fishing scam ever works in the C suite. However you hope that you put enough experienced people together that at least one of them will at some point in their career have heard of security protocol for sensitive communications, and either stop some screw up themselves or at least impress upon others the need to listen to those lower level people with the expertise. While I am sure that Waltz and Hegseth are fully capable of gutting a man in ways a civvy like me could never comprehend, there is in fact a little more to the roles they have found themselves in. And hell, if Vance can write a book, maybe he could also read the back of one sometime, or just the occasional email from the billion or so security personnel I assume he is now immersed in on a daily basis.

 

 

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