I'm utterly tired of the double standards that the DEI/Intersectional movement applies towards the Jewish people. They both appeal to Jews for help because of our past while at the same time insisting that Israel is based on racist foundations but have no issue with Muslim identity states or that Jews are wypipo doing wypipo things. Their self-congratulatory festivals are filled with hypocrisy.
That many Jews who should know better, can't take the side of their own people in fight is also disturbing. I do not get anti-Zionist Jews. "Just one more ecumenical multicultural cargo cult event and all will be fine" they believe. It never occurs to them to make demands or check up on what people say about Jews when no Jews are around.
We invite people to learn a little about us and we learn a little about them and foolishly believe that they will spread the message that the Jews aren't bad when we aren't around. That isn't what happens though. Either the people who come to the ecumenical multicultural cargo cult events either stay silent when they hear anti-Semitism out of fear of getting hit or they go to the bathroom on us behind our backs.
I think the biggest demographic threat to Israel right now is the Haredi Jews out breeding the non-crazies and Secular Israeli Jews are unique in having a TFR above the replacement rate.
My stance on the activists and academic nuts online or not, and I live in a place where they are very much in the flesh, is a lot more hostile than your stance. You think they are annoying bugs. I see them as actively dangerous and dishonest. They define Zionism like Republican define feminism and refuse to learn anything about Zionism or Jewish history. They have menaced and disrupted Jewish events that have nothing to do with Israel or Palestine.
Israel can change the status quo by doing a unilateral withdrawl/border determination on their own. I don't know whether this would be seen as a true end to the occupation. Lots of people argue that Gaza is under occupation because of the blockage to stop arm importation. I imagine a hard border would get many to say that the Occupation still exists. It will be a moving target.
Ultimately, the Palestinians and other Muslims are going to have to say they can live with Israel in order for the conflict to end.
Wisconsin judge arrested for FBI for allegedly signaling to an immigrant in her courtroom that ICE wanted to arrest to exit through the side door rather than the front door. We are entering the arrest officials and politicians who don't comply period of tyranny.
Besides the growth in the ultra-Orthodox population, I think that the average Israeli is basically just frustrated that no matter what they do, it doesn't stop the terrorism. They don't believe that a Palestinian state will improve things at all. Many believe that the West Bank will become a gigantic base against Israel like Gaza became a base against Israel any any attempt to defend themselves will unleash howls.
The mental minds of the people who hate Israel must be made to change for not fighting to happen. As long as enough people believe that Israel is blight on all of Islam or that it is a settler-colonial state than the war against Israel will continue forever even if there is a Palestinian state.
Also the appetite for Gaza style withdrawal from the West Bank let alone a negotiated deal with the Palestinians, which will most likely on the Right of Return because not insisting on that means Palestinian Civil War, is probably really low even among the most left leaning Israelis now.
I personally would love it if there was a way to get cosplay revolutionaries, radical academics, and other opponents of Zionism to apologize for their unrighteous denial of the justice of Jewish self-determination. But it will not happen. The war against Israel and Jews will never end.
I am doubtful if a creation of an independent Palestine will satisfy the cosplay revolutionaries. They will find another reason to continue. The call for the complete destruction of Israel will never end unless it is made to stop.
Beijing calls out Trump's lie on the United States and China actively discussing tariffs.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/tariff-trade-war-china-beijing-trump-washington-us-economy-markets-rcna202535
To be fair to the Palestinians, I think that was true until very recently but recent protests against Hamas in Gaza makes me think that they got into their heads, finally, that this isn't going to happen. Now we just need to get Netanyahu out of power and dictate borders.
The people who really want Israel gone and won't settle for anything less are the allegedly Pro-Palestinian protestors and radicals in the West. I find that they have a more hardline stance on Israel than the government of most Muslim majority countries.
Nearly all of the leftists rallying against Zionism and Israel for ethnic cleansing are going back to the 1948 War. It's why the Pro-Palestinian activists in the West insist on an absolute right of return into green line Israel. That and this would destroy Israel.
Yet, that is what many of the protestors believe. They don't acknowledge that most Israelis are Mizrahi Jews, because that creates ideological inconvenience for them. If they do, they don't listen to what Mizrahi Jews say their life was like under Islam. They that Israeli Jews would be able to move to Europe or North America easily.
I really think that there are a lot of groups in the world angry at Jews for getting in the way of their grand ideological projects. They wanted us to be seen and not heard and allow them to go about creating their idealized nationalist, Islamist, Christian, or whatever community without protest. Instead Jews loudly insisted on our presence and rights.
This. The extremist statements made by Hamas or related groups are supposed to be taken "seriously, not literally" and just because of the conditions they have to endure and once the oppression ends they will become liberal. While extremist statements made by Jews are to be taken seriously and literally.
Yet, if you do an online search the one very angry guy is treated as the "true opinion" while the rest are not. The anti-Semites do this because it is convenient and dishonest.
A few minutes of talk on one Israeli talk show prove that all of Israel is evil and needs to be destroyed in lefty land. Meanwhile, decades of anti-Semitic comments in Muslim media and elsewhere prove nothing.
My theory is that that further left has a neat system on how things are supposed to work. Jews as Jews don't fit into this system and they find us inconvenient to deal with because it disturbs their cosmology.
The very small numbers of Jews but our determination not to be excluded or marginalized is another frustration for them. They would prefer if we were just like the other small survivors from antiquity, seen but not really heard. Just sort of there.
The argument that the Left makes is that Israel is different because they Jewish population consisted of illegitimate settler-colonialists. Never mind that the settler-colonialists would have been killed if they stayed home or would have been stuck under hostile Communist and Arab nationalist governments. They see Israelis as Pied-Noirs and want them gone like what happened to the Pied-Noirs.
I also never really heard an explanation from the anti-Zionists on what the Jews should have done instead of Zionism to deal with the problems that we were facing in the early to mid-20th century everywhere. Nationalists and ideologues in Europe and the MENA Region basically decided that they didn't have use for the local Jewish population. Even if we were quietly minding our own business and keeping to ourselves in insular communities, we were getting the way of their ideological projects by simply existing. The Jews that fought for integration in the societies ended up dead or expelled. Things didn't even get better after WWII because the Communists persecuted the Jews an the Arab nationalists and Islamists wanted Jews gone.
It was the Zionist movement that actually managed to save hundred of thousands or even millions of Jewish lives by giving Jews fleeing rejection and persecution elsewhere a place to go and be Jewish safely. From what I can tell, the anti-Zionists would prefer if we stayed in place and suffered silently.
Even if you think that Zionism is a bad idea, it really shouldn't be that hard to determine why Jews do not want to be minority citizens in a state that defines itself specifically as Arab and/or Muslim and is part of a block of officially Arab and/or Muslim countries.
On broader level, there is a big tendency on the Left to give anti-Semitism a harder definition than other forms of bigotry, racism, and prejudice. They do not see Jews as a people with cultural needs like they would see the Native Hawaiians but at the same time they love to invoke our past as a way to get support.
I wish many Jews would be capable of haggling or bargaining more. There are times I think that so many Jews are attracted to liberalism or leftism because we can't take our own side in a fight. Totally unable to make demands for their own people.
There has always been a certain sort of anti-Zionist Jew who while ostensibly opposed to Zionism because of the Palestinians have their real objection being that they believe the type of decisions necessary for Jews to have a country of their own will poison the Jewish soul. They think that political weakness and an inability for Jews to physically fight back against any anti-Semite allows Jews to maintain moral purity.
I can't stand this. These Jews are either deluding themselves into thinking that if Jews did all that was good and right in their books than the only anti-Semitism would come from the white right. Or even worse they might know that anti-Semitism will always come from all directions but believe that the moral superiority that you get from the purity of persecution is better. I'd prefer it if Jews could take their own side in a fight no matter where the opponent was coming from.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" seems to be something that nobody really believes in anymore left, right, or center. Either they believe that people who disagree with them on many subjects are not merely wrong but illegitimate, and therefore don't deserve defense, or they don't believe that their ideological opponents will have their backs.
Kehlani and her supporters would say that she is being cancelled for being Pro-Palestinian but this is a case where I think that her statements against Israel do veer directly into straight up anti-Semitism:
https://stopantisemitism.org/as-week/kehlani/
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I'm utterly tired of the double standards that the DEI/Intersectional movement applies towards the Jewish people. They both appeal to Jews for help because of our past while at the same time insisting that Israel is based on racist foundations but have no issue with Muslim identity states or that Jews are wypipo doing wypipo things. Their self-congratulatory festivals are filled with hypocrisy.
That many Jews who should know better, can't take the side of their own people in fight is also disturbing. I do not get anti-Zionist Jews. "Just one more ecumenical multicultural cargo cult event and all will be fine" they believe. It never occurs to them to make demands or check up on what people say about Jews when no Jews are around.
We invite people to learn a little about us and we learn a little about them and foolishly believe that they will spread the message that the Jews aren't bad when we aren't around. That isn't what happens though. Either the people who come to the ecumenical multicultural cargo cult events either stay silent when they hear anti-Semitism out of fear of getting hit or they go to the bathroom on us behind our backs.
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I think the biggest demographic threat to Israel right now is the Haredi Jews out breeding the non-crazies and Secular Israeli Jews are unique in having a TFR above the replacement rate.
My stance on the activists and academic nuts online or not, and I live in a place where they are very much in the flesh, is a lot more hostile than your stance. You think they are annoying bugs. I see them as actively dangerous and dishonest. They define Zionism like Republican define feminism and refuse to learn anything about Zionism or Jewish history. They have menaced and disrupted Jewish events that have nothing to do with Israel or Palestine.
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Israel can change the status quo by doing a unilateral withdrawl/border determination on their own. I don't know whether this would be seen as a true end to the occupation. Lots of people argue that Gaza is under occupation because of the blockage to stop arm importation. I imagine a hard border would get many to say that the Occupation still exists. It will be a moving target.
Ultimately, the Palestinians and other Muslims are going to have to say they can live with Israel in order for the conflict to end.
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Wisconsin judge arrested for FBI for allegedly signaling to an immigrant in her courtroom that ICE wanted to arrest to exit through the side door rather than the front door. We are entering the arrest officials and politicians who don't comply period of tyranny.
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/04/25/fbi-arrest-judge-hannah-dugan-milwaukee.html
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Besides the growth in the ultra-Orthodox population, I think that the average Israeli is basically just frustrated that no matter what they do, it doesn't stop the terrorism. They don't believe that a Palestinian state will improve things at all. Many believe that the West Bank will become a gigantic base against Israel like Gaza became a base against Israel any any attempt to defend themselves will unleash howls.
The mental minds of the people who hate Israel must be made to change for not fighting to happen. As long as enough people believe that Israel is blight on all of Islam or that it is a settler-colonial state than the war against Israel will continue forever even if there is a Palestinian state.
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Also the appetite for Gaza style withdrawal from the West Bank let alone a negotiated deal with the Palestinians, which will most likely on the Right of Return because not insisting on that means Palestinian Civil War, is probably really low even among the most left leaning Israelis now.
I personally would love it if there was a way to get cosplay revolutionaries, radical academics, and other opponents of Zionism to apologize for their unrighteous denial of the justice of Jewish self-determination. But it will not happen. The war against Israel and Jews will never end.
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I am doubtful if a creation of an independent Palestine will satisfy the cosplay revolutionaries. They will find another reason to continue. The call for the complete destruction of Israel will never end unless it is made to stop.
"
Beijing calls out Trump's lie on the United States and China actively discussing tariffs.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/tariff-trade-war-china-beijing-trump-washington-us-economy-markets-rcna202535
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To be fair to the Palestinians, I think that was true until very recently but recent protests against Hamas in Gaza makes me think that they got into their heads, finally, that this isn't going to happen. Now we just need to get Netanyahu out of power and dictate borders.
The people who really want Israel gone and won't settle for anything less are the allegedly Pro-Palestinian protestors and radicals in the West. I find that they have a more hardline stance on Israel than the government of most Muslim majority countries.
"
Nearly all of the leftists rallying against Zionism and Israel for ethnic cleansing are going back to the 1948 War. It's why the Pro-Palestinian activists in the West insist on an absolute right of return into green line Israel. That and this would destroy Israel.
"
Yet, that is what many of the protestors believe. They don't acknowledge that most Israelis are Mizrahi Jews, because that creates ideological inconvenience for them. If they do, they don't listen to what Mizrahi Jews say their life was like under Islam. They that Israeli Jews would be able to move to Europe or North America easily.
I really think that there are a lot of groups in the world angry at Jews for getting in the way of their grand ideological projects. They wanted us to be seen and not heard and allow them to go about creating their idealized nationalist, Islamist, Christian, or whatever community without protest. Instead Jews loudly insisted on our presence and rights.
"
This. The extremist statements made by Hamas or related groups are supposed to be taken "seriously, not literally" and just because of the conditions they have to endure and once the oppression ends they will become liberal. While extremist statements made by Jews are to be taken seriously and literally.
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Yet, if you do an online search the one very angry guy is treated as the "true opinion" while the rest are not. The anti-Semites do this because it is convenient and dishonest.
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A few minutes of talk on one Israeli talk show prove that all of Israel is evil and needs to be destroyed in lefty land. Meanwhile, decades of anti-Semitic comments in Muslim media and elsewhere prove nothing.
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My theory is that that further left has a neat system on how things are supposed to work. Jews as Jews don't fit into this system and they find us inconvenient to deal with because it disturbs their cosmology.
The very small numbers of Jews but our determination not to be excluded or marginalized is another frustration for them. They would prefer if we were just like the other small survivors from antiquity, seen but not really heard. Just sort of there.
"
The argument that the Left makes is that Israel is different because they Jewish population consisted of illegitimate settler-colonialists. Never mind that the settler-colonialists would have been killed if they stayed home or would have been stuck under hostile Communist and Arab nationalist governments. They see Israelis as Pied-Noirs and want them gone like what happened to the Pied-Noirs.
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The Left doesn't seem to have an issue with Muslim identity states or Arab ethno-states.
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In order to avoid persecution and death.
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I also never really heard an explanation from the anti-Zionists on what the Jews should have done instead of Zionism to deal with the problems that we were facing in the early to mid-20th century everywhere. Nationalists and ideologues in Europe and the MENA Region basically decided that they didn't have use for the local Jewish population. Even if we were quietly minding our own business and keeping to ourselves in insular communities, we were getting the way of their ideological projects by simply existing. The Jews that fought for integration in the societies ended up dead or expelled. Things didn't even get better after WWII because the Communists persecuted the Jews an the Arab nationalists and Islamists wanted Jews gone.
It was the Zionist movement that actually managed to save hundred of thousands or even millions of Jewish lives by giving Jews fleeing rejection and persecution elsewhere a place to go and be Jewish safely. From what I can tell, the anti-Zionists would prefer if we stayed in place and suffered silently.
"
Even if you think that Zionism is a bad idea, it really shouldn't be that hard to determine why Jews do not want to be minority citizens in a state that defines itself specifically as Arab and/or Muslim and is part of a block of officially Arab and/or Muslim countries.
On broader level, there is a big tendency on the Left to give anti-Semitism a harder definition than other forms of bigotry, racism, and prejudice. They do not see Jews as a people with cultural needs like they would see the Native Hawaiians but at the same time they love to invoke our past as a way to get support.
"
Cosplay Revolutionaries dress up as Hamas as actual Palestinians in Gaza protest Hamas:
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c175z14r8pro
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"Hashem, please grant me the confidence of a non-Jew explaining to me what is and isn’t antisemitic."
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I wish many Jews would be capable of haggling or bargaining more. There are times I think that so many Jews are attracted to liberalism or leftism because we can't take our own side in a fight. Totally unable to make demands for their own people.
There has always been a certain sort of anti-Zionist Jew who while ostensibly opposed to Zionism because of the Palestinians have their real objection being that they believe the type of decisions necessary for Jews to have a country of their own will poison the Jewish soul. They think that political weakness and an inability for Jews to physically fight back against any anti-Semite allows Jews to maintain moral purity.
I can't stand this. These Jews are either deluding themselves into thinking that if Jews did all that was good and right in their books than the only anti-Semitism would come from the white right. Or even worse they might know that anti-Semitism will always come from all directions but believe that the moral superiority that you get from the purity of persecution is better. I'd prefer it if Jews could take their own side in a fight no matter where the opponent was coming from.
"
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it" seems to be something that nobody really believes in anymore left, right, or center. Either they believe that people who disagree with them on many subjects are not merely wrong but illegitimate, and therefore don't deserve defense, or they don't believe that their ideological opponents will have their backs.
"
Cornell cancels R&B singer Kehlani Parrish for anti-Semitism:
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/23/nyregion/kehlani-cornell-concert-replaced.html
Kehlani and her supporters would say that she is being cancelled for being Pro-Palestinian but this is a case where I think that her statements against Israel do veer directly into straight up anti-Semitism:
https://stopantisemitism.org/as-week/kehlani/
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