I don't think this group is as fringe as you make it out to be. There seem to be a lot of them persistent in driving their message and not letting up. They need to be made to stop.
The Pro-Palestinian movement keeps running into anti-Semitism and the Holocaust without a particular solution. Saying that they believe that "colonial-settlerism is so bad that they believe it would be a more just world if more Jews died in the Holocaust and the Mizrahi Jews got the boot to the West in the name of anti-colonialism sounds bad, so they just pretend that Zionism isn't addressing a particular problem that Jews had and that the non-Zionist solutions lost because they failed big time,.
Ideally, I think they basically think that Jews take up too much room and make too much noise for our population size. They would prefer us to be more like the Zoroastrians and keep to ourselves in small isolated communities. Sort of like living museum pieces where the reaction is "oh, those people are still around" rather than people being able to rattle off large numbers of famous Jews without effort.
At least on the Right, there is still plenty of old school white lecturing of black people even if it can be more muted. The H1-B program is a form of indentured servitude but at the same time I do think the point about American STEM skills and education being lacking are correct. Americans tend to think of math as a talent rather than a learned skill even in very good schools it is just accepted that many kids are going to be bad at math and leave it at that. Few kids seem to want to go into computer programming but become the CEOs and management.
And Jews are supposed to love them along and their self-congratulatory conferences. I'd break every bone in the people who attend these conferences or nod in support of them if I could. It is absolute demand in one hand and complete denial in another. And yes, the DEI sect and the Western Left in general treats the Palestinians with a paternalism that defies belief.
The reason why I tend to be pissed off a lot more about anti-Semitism from the DEI people and Intersectionalists or really the left in general is that it comes across more as rank betrayal. The White Right and Islamists can't help themselves but for the DEI sect, Jews were some of the most passionate advocates for pluralism and multi-culturalism in the word but the current advocates for DEI think that Jews are nothing more than white people with pretensions and that "Jews Don't Count."
I think that Israel should just leave the West Bank but I emotionally don't like the idea of the Palestinians getting rewarded for decades of obstinance, stupidity, and terrorism. Despite not winning any battle, their leadership has always demanded maximum victory with an arrogance that is beyond belief that is reinforced by their vile allies across Islam and in other radical communities.
The entire moment is pissing me off. Jews are supposed to say how wonderful these self-congratulatory DEI conferences are and how bad we are for oppressing the Palestinians. In return, we get an antipathetic dismissive tolerance at best or treated as wypipo cosplaying as a group with a culture of our own at worse. They are all utterly horrible.
Plenty of people still call the aftermath of Israel War's for Independence ethnic cleansing while ignoring the Arab states kicking out all their Jews. I've heard cries that the Palestinian refugees, or really their descendants must return, while all the Jews need to leave the Middle East even if Mizrahi.
That might be the case but this type of moaning existed since Israel was founded. Going on an on about the Palestinians while ignoring what happened to Jews in continental Europe and the Middle East/North Africa has been the norm for decades.
There have been more people killed in the Syrian Civil War and Yemen Civil War since 2011 than the entire I/P conflict but all the Pro-Palestinian people go around like the I/P conflict is the worst thing that ever happened in human history. I wonder why.
Why do people who keep accusing Israel of "ethnic cleansing" at any time in it's history don't seem to have any issue with the rest of the Middle East giving their Jews the boot? It tends to be overlooked in the name of "anti-colonialism" and Jews are just supposed to take it on the chin as communities hundreds or thousands of years old get destroyed over night. And don't say that the Mizrahi Jewish communities would have been fined but for the creation of Israel. The rest of the non-Muslims and even the wrong types of Muslims aren't doing fine in the Middle East either.
Tablet started off as an interesting Jewish online magazine whose politics reflected standard American Jewish politics. The editors eventually started leaning right but also knew the politics of most American Jews so controlled themselves. It looks like they decided to go full into the far right edge of American Jews.
I think the hope was that by "humanizing the homeless", people would have a but for the Grace of God go I moment and vote for generous welfare provisions and social services. That did not happen. And yes, certain sections of the left took to a rather strong defense of visible disorder.
There have also been credible reports of teachers taking it upon themselves to do teach ins about the I/P conflict that are basically "Zionism is settler-colonialism" rather than an actual honest history of the Zionist movement and what it was responding to and trying to do. I do not see these people as mere people on the internet but people who are educating people and basically keeping out the Jewish perspective of what happened.
Diaspora Jews might not like Netanyahu or Likud but most of us hate Hamas more and did not like a bunch of people out and about celebrating the massacre of Jews as kinetic decolonization. I really doubt that many of these types could tell you how many Jews are there and how many of them live in Israel.
Republicans in Congress seem to be willing to shut down the government for no reason other than Trump is opposed to the continuing resolution. I'd say that the Republicans are not waking up.
On “Joe Biden Agrees that Some People *DO* Deserve the Death Penalty”
Responding to succinct points with long verbiage is not impressive looking.
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I don't think this group is as fringe as you make it out to be. There seem to be a lot of them persistent in driving their message and not letting up. They need to be made to stop.
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The Pro-Palestinian movement keeps running into anti-Semitism and the Holocaust without a particular solution. Saying that they believe that "colonial-settlerism is so bad that they believe it would be a more just world if more Jews died in the Holocaust and the Mizrahi Jews got the boot to the West in the name of anti-colonialism sounds bad, so they just pretend that Zionism isn't addressing a particular problem that Jews had and that the non-Zionist solutions lost because they failed big time,.
Ideally, I think they basically think that Jews take up too much room and make too much noise for our population size. They would prefer us to be more like the Zoroastrians and keep to ourselves in small isolated communities. Sort of like living museum pieces where the reaction is "oh, those people are still around" rather than people being able to rattle off large numbers of famous Jews without effort.
On “Open Mic for the week of 12/23/2024”
At least on the Right, there is still plenty of old school white lecturing of black people even if it can be more muted. The H1-B program is a form of indentured servitude but at the same time I do think the point about American STEM skills and education being lacking are correct. Americans tend to think of math as a talent rather than a learned skill even in very good schools it is just accepted that many kids are going to be bad at math and leave it at that. Few kids seem to want to go into computer programming but become the CEOs and management.
On “Weekend Plans Post: Recovering from the Holidays”
Here is a picture of Raquel Welch as Mary Ann from Gilligan's Island to start your weekend:
https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3d20b1c855ef491d1125295b9745401346f02a1019510b29e71a09c3b881fef8.png
On “Joe Biden Agrees that Some People *DO* Deserve the Death Penalty”
And Jews are supposed to love them along and their self-congratulatory conferences. I'd break every bone in the people who attend these conferences or nod in support of them if I could. It is absolute demand in one hand and complete denial in another. And yes, the DEI sect and the Western Left in general treats the Palestinians with a paternalism that defies belief.
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The reason why I tend to be pissed off a lot more about anti-Semitism from the DEI people and Intersectionalists or really the left in general is that it comes across more as rank betrayal. The White Right and Islamists can't help themselves but for the DEI sect, Jews were some of the most passionate advocates for pluralism and multi-culturalism in the word but the current advocates for DEI think that Jews are nothing more than white people with pretensions and that "Jews Don't Count."
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I think that Israel should just leave the West Bank but I emotionally don't like the idea of the Palestinians getting rewarded for decades of obstinance, stupidity, and terrorism. Despite not winning any battle, their leadership has always demanded maximum victory with an arrogance that is beyond belief that is reinforced by their vile allies across Islam and in other radical communities.
The entire moment is pissing me off. Jews are supposed to say how wonderful these self-congratulatory DEI conferences are and how bad we are for oppressing the Palestinians. In return, we get an antipathetic dismissive tolerance at best or treated as wypipo cosplaying as a group with a culture of our own at worse. They are all utterly horrible.
"
Plenty of people still call the aftermath of Israel War's for Independence ethnic cleansing while ignoring the Arab states kicking out all their Jews. I've heard cries that the Palestinian refugees, or really their descendants must return, while all the Jews need to leave the Middle East even if Mizrahi.
On “Open Mic for the week of 12/23/2024”
There seems to be a fight over H1-B visas on the Right:
https://newrepublic.com/post/189683/elon-musk-critics-x-immigration-paid-price-verification
On “Joe Biden Agrees that Some People *DO* Deserve the Death Penalty”
That might be the case but this type of moaning existed since Israel was founded. Going on an on about the Palestinians while ignoring what happened to Jews in continental Europe and the Middle East/North Africa has been the norm for decades.
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There have been more people killed in the Syrian Civil War and Yemen Civil War since 2011 than the entire I/P conflict but all the Pro-Palestinian people go around like the I/P conflict is the worst thing that ever happened in human history. I wonder why.
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Why do people who keep accusing Israel of "ethnic cleansing" at any time in it's history don't seem to have any issue with the rest of the Middle East giving their Jews the boot? It tends to be overlooked in the name of "anti-colonialism" and Jews are just supposed to take it on the chin as communities hundreds or thousands of years old get destroyed over night. And don't say that the Mizrahi Jewish communities would have been fined but for the creation of Israel. The rest of the non-Muslims and even the wrong types of Muslims aren't doing fine in the Middle East either.
On “From Tablet Mag: Rapid-Onset Political Enlightenment”
Tablet started off as an interesting Jewish online magazine whose politics reflected standard American Jewish politics. The editors eventually started leaning right but also knew the politics of most American Jews so controlled themselves. It looks like they decided to go full into the far right edge of American Jews.
On “Open Mic for the week of 12/23/2024”
The Gaetz report was released and the findings are what one expects:
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/12/23/us/matt-gaetz-report-trump-news
On “Open Mic for the week of 12/16/2024”
Currently we are facing the liberal society paradox where a liberal society faces threats so great that an illiberal response is necessary.
On “From The Wall Street Journal: How the White House Functioned With a Diminished Biden in Charge”
Republicans in the House voted against Trump's own preferred CR bill. That's dysfunctional.
On “Open Mic for the week of 12/16/2024”
I think the hope was that by "humanizing the homeless", people would have a but for the Grace of God go I moment and vote for generous welfare provisions and social services. That did not happen. And yes, certain sections of the left took to a rather strong defense of visible disorder.
On “From Semafor: Kamala Harris’ digital chief on Democrats ‘losing hold of culture’”
They out number the global population of Jews in the United States alone, so that isn't much of a consolidation.
On “Are Republicans Waking Up?”
Boebert or MTG.
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We will know by the 20th. Johnson is out as speaker if this happens. Johnson is out if it does not happen.
On “From Semafor: Kamala Harris’ digital chief on Democrats ‘losing hold of culture’”
There have also been credible reports of teachers taking it upon themselves to do teach ins about the I/P conflict that are basically "Zionism is settler-colonialism" rather than an actual honest history of the Zionist movement and what it was responding to and trying to do. I do not see these people as mere people on the internet but people who are educating people and basically keeping out the Jewish perspective of what happened.
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I oppose these a-holes all the time but it feels like being a trench soldier against an enemy that won't quit.
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Diaspora Jews might not like Netanyahu or Likud but most of us hate Hamas more and did not like a bunch of people out and about celebrating the massacre of Jews as kinetic decolonization. I really doubt that many of these types could tell you how many Jews are there and how many of them live in Israel.
On “Are Republicans Waking Up?”
Republicans in Congress seem to be willing to shut down the government for no reason other than Trump is opposed to the continuing resolution. I'd say that the Republicans are not waking up.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/trump-opposes-funding-bill-pushing-government-closer-shutdown-rcna184745
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