6 thoughts on “From the NY Times: DOGE Savings “85 percent less than its objective”

  1. All federal discretionary spending combined is $1.6T. This includes what most of us view as primary gov functions. I would be surprised if he even managed to get $150B.

    If we’re serious about cutting gov spending, then we need to spend less on “mandatory” ($5.2T) spending (i.e. entitlements) just because that’s where the money is.

    The best way to do that is to reduce the cost of medical care. We should have also raised the retirement age significantly about 20 years ago, I’m not sure what we do now. Maybe means testing.Report

      1. Military spending is roughly half of that $1.6T discretionary spending

        I think Musk didn’t review that, so he was promising $1.5T in cuts to $0.8T in spending.

        Those numbers are also why I think even $150B in cuts is wrong.Report

    1. I would be surprised if he even managed to get $150B.

      I think we have a pretty serious problem in how media in this country functions: It just repeats things that people on the right say while doing absolutely no verification at all.

      (For the record, doing the same thing with people on the left would also be a problem, but doesn’t seem to happen.)

      This is all government stuff. When it became clear that DOGE was actually an incompetent mess that had no idea what they were doing, the media should have just stopped repeating things they said. Just, period, stopped.

      If the government want to show evidence of something, they are the government. None of these agreements are secret, the budget itself is not secret (Which is something that should have been pointed out by the media also when these idiots started talking about fraud.) It is entirely reasonable to say ‘Show me the exact details of what you did’.

      Instead, the media reported on a website, and then they think it is their job to track down stuff on that website and _disprove_ it.

      NO! They are the government, and they are pretty well-shown to be liars at this point. They should be providing actual documentation! Do not report how much you have disproven, do not accept _any_ of it. The headlines should be ‘DOGE claims giant savings, refuses to document a single dime of it, huge parts of the vague information they did provide are demonstrably false’.Report

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