Trump’s Most Insidious Scheme (So Far)

David Thornton

David Thornton is a freelance writer and professional pilot who has also lived in Georgia, Florida, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, and Texas. He is a graduate of the University of Georgia and Emmanuel College. He is Christian conservative/libertarian who was fortunate enough to have seen Ronald Reagan in person during his formative years. A former contributor to The Resurgent, David now writes for the Racket News with fellow Resurgent alum, Steve Berman, and his personal blog, CaptainKudzu. He currently lives with his wife and daughter near Columbus, Georgia. His son is serving in the US Air Force. You can find him on Twitter @CaptainKudzu and Facebook.

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  1. Burt Likko
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    Due process is not a cookie you have to earn through your innocence or your charisma. It is a restraint upon the exercise of government and it is the core reason the United States of America exists. If you don’t believe me take a read through the Declaration of Independence and see how many of the grievances against King George III had to do with the procedural administration of justice.

    Due process includes the right to have a competent lawyer, of your own choosing if you’ve the means to choose one. Scaring lawyers out of being willing to accept cases by the free agreement between attorneyand client, deterring lawyers from accepting the cause of unpopular litigants, arguing for legally valid positions that are inconvenient to the government — if you do that, you’re opposing the bedrock of America’s tradition of law and order. Don’t believe me? Ask John Adams, our second President.

    A lawless President, a felon, a man who has his entire life shown no respect for nor understanding of the law whatsoever, is hardly behaving out of character by assaulting the rule of law itself. What is disheartening is how many people are going along with it.Report

    • Saul Degraw in reply to Burt Likko
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      The problem is getting people to understand and appreciate this. There seems to be a decent segment of the population who thinks “if you are arrested, you must be guilty of something.”Report

  2. Philip H
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    Is now a good time to say we warned you?Report

    • Dark Matter in reply to Philip H
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      You can if you want… although this kind of stuff is the big reason I didn’t vote for him.

      At some point this will come to a head, but I expect he’ll have to lose some popularity before that. Probably also need to lose Congress.

      What the next administration will also be very interesting. A lot of lines are going to be crossed, we’re going to have a lot of criminal activity done during this administration.Report

  3. David TC
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    These reports, as well as others that include accounts of ICE arresting and detaining US citizens, also make me think that ICE is challenging ATF’s reputation as one of the most lawless and unaccountable federal law enforcement agencies.

    LOL. Tell me you’re a conservative without telling me you’re a conservative.

    ICE has always been completely lawless, in every possible way, since it was created. It just generally restricted itself to being lawless against brown people.

    Now, it feels free to move on to other people too.

    It also used to have to turn people over to the courts, and it doesn’t have to do that anymore.

    But all this has been ICE, for the two decades it has existed. This is how it always has been, it didn’t suddenly get worse.Report

    • Dark Matter in reply to David TC
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      From 2012 to early 2018, ICE wrongfully arrested and detained 1,480 U.S. citizens, including many who spent months or years in immigration detention.[86] A 2018 Los Angeles Times investigation found that ICE’s reliance on incomplete and error-prone databases and lax investigations led to the erroneous detentions.[86] From 2008 to 2018, ICE was sued for wrongful arrest by more than two dozen U.S. citizens, who had been detained for periods ranging from one day to over three years. Some of the wrongfully detained U.S. citizens had been arrested by ICE more than once.[86] The inaccurate government data that ICE used had shown that both immigrants and U.S. citizens were both targets of being detained.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._Immigration_and_Customs_Enforcement#Wrongful_detention_allegations

      So they screw up about 200 times a year.

      They deport about 750 people a day. Last year 271,484

      So they mess up less than one time out of a thousand.Report

      • David TC in reply to Dark Matter
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        That’s a law enforcement agency arresting, for months or years, people who not only have not committed a crime, but no crime actually existed at all.

        They just _mysteriously_ looked at the person and decided they were here illegally.

        You don’t think that’s meaningful?Report

        • Dark Matter in reply to David TC
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          I put down only facts. I gave no personal evaluation at all.

          However since you asked:

          I am strongly in favor of serious immigration reform. I view our policies as self conflicting, self destructive, and unrealistic.

          In that context imho it’s unclear whether ICE is doing a good job or bad job because their job is basically impossible. They’re dealing with really bad records because they’re dealing with people who are forced to hide from the system. By definition that means they’re “marginalized”.

          We’re in prohibition territory. I have no clue whether a “better run and better resourced” (whatever that means) ICE would be better or even worse because we have too many people who are unwilling to follow the law.

          I’m not sure whether a “reformed” ICE would be a good thing or a bad thing even in view of that record I just posted.Report

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