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Jaybird

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  1. Saul Degraw
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    Today in it is totally not a cult:

    1. Representative Claudia Tenney (NY-24) proposes turning Trump’s birthday into a Federal Holiday.

    2. Rep. Luna introduces legislation to carve Trump into Mt. Rushmore

    3. House Republicans want to impeach judges that ruled against Trump

    https://www.axios.com/2025/02/16/impeachment-judges-republicans-trumpReport

  2. Saul Degraw
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    Four NYC deputy mayors are expected to resign rather than collaborate with Trump and Adams: https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/17/nyregion/adams-deputy-mayors-resign-trump-immigration.html?smtyp=cur&smid=bsky-nytimesReport

    • Michael Cain in reply to Saul Degraw
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      Most state legislatures have some really dumb bills introduced every session. This one is more interesting than many because it actually passed a committee vote. Also too, it banned mRNA for vaccines against infectious diseases, but allowed the tech for use against cancer or to correct gene-based problems.Report

  3. Saul Degraw
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    Homan wants the DOJ about making a video advising undocumented residents about their rights: https://www.newsweek.com/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-investigation-illegal-migrant-video-tom-homan-2031045Report

  4. Saul Degraw
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    “These health burdens have continued to increase alongside the increased prescription of medication. For example, in the case of Attention Deficit Disorder/Attention Deficit Hyperactivity Disorder, over 3.4 million children are now on medication for the disorder — up from 3.2 million children in 2019-2020 — and the number of children being diagnosed with the condition continues to rise.

    This poses a dire threat to the American people and our way of life.”

    The language of Eugenics right out in the open.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/establishing-the-presidents-make-america-healthy-again-commission/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR1SErud5Tu3NGb7PN1P1SH1bMWrNaqo2aoPvvnNc5WiS2IrAhpLXHlp9bw_aem_jn2B0kbC060F0yDuQBLLfAReport

  5. Glyph
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    Elon replied to DJT’s Napoleon-quoting tweet today with 14 flag emojis, at 14:14 ET.

    What a weirdly specific flag count and timestamp. I’m sure it’s just because he’s allegedly on the spectrum and feels a special affinity for the number 14. In a strange coincidence, the gear in the DOGE logo also has that many teeth. My heart goes out to him.Report

    • Glyph in reply to Glyph
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      Oh, I forgot to mention that like his Sieg Heil, he did it twice.

      He does it twice, so that while the ignorant don’t catch it or make excuses for it, the white nationalists, sometimes colloquially known as “nahtzees”, that he’s dogwhistling can be sure that the first signal was no accident.

      Ha ha! What a crazy overexcited big “theater kid” he is!

      https://x.com/kendallybrown/status/1891541628394824059Report

      • Chris in reply to Glyph
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        1) Yes, it’s pretty obvious at this point.

        But more importantly,

        2) Dude, are you on Twitter?Report

        • Glyph in reply to Chris
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          In reverse order,

          2) Nope. Weirdly at times now I kinda wish I was only because stuff like this is hard for me to double-check to make sure it’s not misinformation/disinformation/taken out of context; but still, I was never on Twitter to start with and no WAY am I getting on that sinking dumpster-fire now.

          and 1) It was obvious before, but someone here who shall remain nameless kept making odd excuses for the Sieg Heils; and as I love that person like a brother, I intend to keep hammering relentlessly upon this particular nail until they also say, “yes, it’s pretty obvious at this point”, because I don’t want my brother to keep on looking like a dang fool.Report

          • Chris in reply to Glyph
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            Re: Twitter, I plan to go down with the ship. I’ve tried a couple of the replacements, and find them either to be either very boring (Mastadon) or almost entirely populated by the sorts of people I went out of my way to avoid on Twitter (BlueSky). Since I see almost none of the far right stuff on Twitter, at least for now, it remains mostly bearable, though I did block literally hundreds of people talking about a certain conflict in a certain part of the world (including some people here).

            Speaking of the far right stuff, Musk’s attraction to it was apparent pretty much as soon as he bought Twitter, when he started interacting with those people openly over there. For example, he has repeatedly agreed with and amplified “Great Replacement” views.

            I assume the use of dog whistles is really just trolling, because he’s already shown us who he is, and everyone acting as though his flirting with the far right on Twitter, or hanging out with AfD in Germany, etc., doesn’t mean he’s like them is either kidding themselves or doesn’t really care if he’s like them.

            Or such people are at this point just so reflexively contrarian about anything said by anyone to the left of the median House Republican that they’ve lost all sense of perspective and gravity.Report

    • Jaybird in reply to Glyph
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      As dog-whistles go, that’s one that is outside even my range of hearing.

      The screenshot that I saw had it at 1:14, though… which I understand is 13:14.

      Different time zones, I guess.Report

      • Glyph in reply to Jaybird
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        Yeah, it’s timezone stuff. His initial reply was at 14:14 ET (he’s in DC), but of course that would display in the local timezone of the screenshotter.

        I think if I were posting multiple flags, I would post eleven, one flag louder than ten.Report

        • Jaybird in reply to Glyph
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          Was Twitter originally made to allow for fifteen flags on a line? I saw a screenshot showing that fifteen flags had a new line created so you had one row of 14 and then one row of 1.

          This may go all the way back to Jack.Report

  6. Slade the Leveller
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    Management all over the world is requiring a return to the office.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/us-russia-talks-ukraine-europe-invasion-rcna192544Report

  7. Saul Degraw
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    https://united24media.com/latest-news/us-russia-peace-plan-allegedly-suggests-three-stages-ceasefire-elections-and-final-agreement-5992

    Speaking of “peace” “deals”, the stabbing in the back from Trump to Ukraine continues. The three stage “process” includes snap elections which will presumably be used to try and get a Kremlin and Putin friendly Puppet government in charge of things.Report

  8. Saul Degraw
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    Speaking of more local corruption.

    The Adams’ situation has gotten to the point where Gov. Hochul is holding an emergency meeting today. The proverbial straw that broke the camel’s back appears to be the sudden resignation of 4 Deputy Mayors and the head of the NYC council calling for him to resign. These are Adams’ own allies and staffers, not his opposition.

    Josh Marshall correctly pointed out that the corrupt plea bargain deal gives Trump dominion over NYC effectively.’

    We shall see if Hochul is willing to use a never enacted power which lets her remove the mayor from office.

    FWIW, I think it is generally good to be cautious about using this power but this is an emergency/break glass situationReport

  9. DavidTC
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    The DOJ is now arguing that Elon Musk does not run DOGE or work for them at all, and is merely a special advisor to the President: https://abcnews.go.com/US/white-house-claims-elon-musk-doesnt-run-doge/story?id=118913206

    The lawyers did not bother to specify who _does_ run it, which one would assume that government lawyers would do almost automatically when presented with ‘lawsuit that targets targets a governmental agency and names the head of the agency but names the wrong person as the head’. It is utterly surreal not to say ‘X is not in charge, Y is, here is the documentation’ as a response to that. It is blatant deliberate stalling to try to force the opposing side to file a motion demanding to know who is is in charge, a thing that they should not have to do and the judge isn’t going to put up with them having to do…who runs governmental agencies is not secret and doesn’t need to be requested in court. If I was the judge this filing was given to, I’d say ‘Well, you have ten minutes to tell me who is in charge or I’m issuing an temporary restraining for the entire agency to stop what they are doing until someone is officially in charge.’

    Anyway, lawyers doing things that will make judges very angry aside: Not only is this obvious nonsense, as both Trump and Elon have presented themselves in charge of DOGE many time, but it really feels like this means the entire DOGE scam is unraveling and Elon is trying to get out from under it.

    Sadly, because Elon is a complete and total moron (Seriously, this cannot be stressed enough) and has admitted repeatedly he has access to restricted information that DOGE has accessed, making him not part of DOGE actually makes the situation for him worse, not better.

    The lawyers trying to stop DOGE just claimed he wasn’t in charge because the specific lawsuit pointed out that Elon had not been confirmed by the Senate, so decided to retcon him into a mere Presidential advisor, which might, in theory, make that lawsuit a little weaker, while making everything else so much stupider because this claim can be used in _other_ court filings about how DOGE should not be accessing things it is accessing, because now they can prove people outside DOGE have access to it!

    Hell, it doesn’t even actually help this lawsuit! This lawsuit is about how DOGE is out of control and operating outside Federal Regulations without Congressional Authorization or Senate Confirmation, and lawyers saying ‘The person who has been claiming to run it is not actually running it, and we’re not going to say who is, and in fact might not be sure’ does not, uh, disprove that premise.Report

  10. Jaybird
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    New polls! We got 538 and we got RCP.Report

    • Philip H in reply to Jaybird
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      And what do you take away from these polls?Report

    • Chris in reply to Jaybird
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      One thing is for certain: if this country is well and truly cooked, then it’s us who put it in the oven and left it there.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to Chris
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        There’s a quotation attributed to Genghis Khan: “I am the punishment of God…If you had not committed great sins, God would not have sent a punishment like me upon you.”

        The legendary Emperor Yu successfully controlled a massive flood and, by doing so, demonstrated that he held the mandate of heaven.

        One of the odd things about the whole “mandate of heaven” thing is that stuff like “flood control” was, mostly, somewhat manageable. Like, you could spend money and effort on dams and maintenance and floodwalls and so on and so forth. And, for the most part, if you weren’t in a particularly floody year, it didn’t matter if your local managers skimmed a little off the top and didn’t do all of the maintenance required. Why bother having managers whose job it was to manage the managers in dryish years? Or manager manager managers?

        But when the deluge came, that little “skimming off of the top” became a flood and an indicator that the job of overseeing things had been neglected and it went all the way to the top. And neglect meant that you had lost the mandate of heaven.

        We have lost the mandate of heaven.
        Our sins have been very great indeed.Report

  11. Saul Degraw
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    From Josh Marshall:

    Was getting a read out a short time ago about firings at CMS (the agency that runs Medicare and Medicaid). The cuts run deep. And giving how much of the health care economy runs through these programs that’s of course worrisome. But the most telling detail is one I’ve heard from numerous other agencies. The people actually running the agency don’t actually know how many people have been fired or who they are. If you’re in charge of and responsible for running the place you really need to know that. But as in other agencies they’re having to piece that together by doing things like seeing whose emails have been turned off or just asking them. Did you get fired? You? Can someone ask Lori if she got fired? Imagine running an agency and finding out that there had been widespread terminations but not being given any details about who they are or how many there are. That’s pretty straightforward sabotage.Report

  12. Saul Degraw
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    I can’t think of anything Putin or Xi would do differently if they were in charge of the U.S. instead of TruskReport

    • Jaybird in reply to Saul Degraw
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      They probably would be more pro-Palestinian, for one obvious thing.Report

    • Chris in reply to Saul Degraw
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      This might be one of the strangest things I’ve seen someone say on this site. I can see a comparison to, say, Orbán, in that it looks like Trump is trying to remake the government and to some extent universities in his ideological image, but even that comparison, which unlike comparing him to Putin or Xi (two very different rulers from each other, even) makes some sense, is pretty limited. He hasn’t yet gone after the press, or protestors in really, and even his attacks on universities (through withholding grant money) are nothing like Orbán’s yet.Report

      • Saul Degraw in reply to Chris
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        Orabnification is happening to.

        I wonder if this a difference between liberal v. leftist. I think USAID did a lot more good than bad and its destruction will lead to a lot of pain and suffering around the world.

        They are basically doing a wholesale dismantling of the Federal Government which will cause a lot of pain down the road or worse.

        And I don’t think this is good even if the agencies were not perfect.

        Putin and Xi wanted a weakened and discredited and untrusted U.S. and Trusk’s actions are going to produce that. I don’t believe in Evil Spock American Exceptionalism where the United States is only a source of evil and malice in the world. I don’t believe in American Exceptionalism where we are only a force of unalloyed good.

        But I am an internationalist and believe in soft power and America being active in world affairs.Report

        • Chris in reply to Saul Degraw
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          I think USAID does real good, and it’s a shame that’s stuff is going away. It’s very good that its black money and propaganda functions will be gone, though I assume agencies like the CIA will pick them right up.

          I have mixed feelings about the administrative state, but the way it’s being dismantled, and the speed with which it’s being dismantled, are undeniably reckless and will cause a great deal of suffering while doing damage to a myriad of institutions that are, at least for the most part, good (like universities).

          I don’t think Xi sees the U.S. the way the U.S. sees China. Putin may see the U.S. the way the U.S. sees Russia, though, but if he were running things, I have no doubt that the military would be his first target, not cancer research grants or the Department of Education.Report

        • InMD in reply to Saul Degraw
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          Hungary is a unitary parliament system which makes it a lot easier to totally take over. I think Trump is going to leave a mess of smoking craters and ruins, kind of like a half-as*ed renovation job that never got passed or even completed the demolition stage.

          Unlike you I wouldn’t call myself an internationalist but I am a kind of realist that sees the upside to self interested noblesse oblige and non-zero sum thinking where the opportunities present themselves.

          It seems to me that the core failure is that of America’s outward looking organizations, from the aid agencies, to the spooks, to even the military itself to exercise some basic judgment and self auditing. It’s clear to me that DOGE (to say nothing of Trump himself) is completely Twitter brained. The reason this stuff is on the radar is because it’s become so easy to meme-ify the various idiotic-to-disastrous things these organizations do. Bottom line is if we want PEPFAR (and to be clear, I want PEPFAR) we need to be able to say no to DEI in Serbia or promoting gay or trans or whatever comic book characters for Peru’s department of education, and wherever else.Report

          • Saul Degraw in reply to InMD
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            Our Federalized system might also prevent some but all damage.

            As my State Senator pointed out this morning, most forests in California (and most of the United States) are federal land. Slashing jobs at Interior and National Parks is going to be very bad during the summer travel and wildfire seasons.

            What is happening at the DOJ and FBI is not good.

            What is happening at HHS/NIH is not good.

            But I still find it strange that DEI gets such strong reactions. Yes, there is some silliness in the language used at corporate training workshops but it is clear that Trump’s crusade against DEIA is more about reasserting white supremacy. Hence he found one group that deserves political asylum, white South Africans.* They are going at this with manic energy. They are defending alliances with far right fascist parties and going to the mats when someone is revealed as a Holocaust denier or having attended actual white supremacist rallies.

            Or as I saw it, Musk’s code warriors are like meth addicts ripping through the walls and copper wiring looking for the WOKE machine so they can figure out why women won’t f**k them,

            But if someone’s response to all the chaos and damage being caused now is still to go “but DEI.” I have to think it will be 2024’s but her emails…Report

            • InMD in reply to Saul Degraw
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              I don’t think any of is likely to turn out well. I’ve never voted for Trump or any Republican for president. If I have to cop to anything it’s voting for Larry Hogan twice for governor in a context where Democrats would hold legislative super majorities.

              Here is what I’d offer as food for thought from someone who still votes D but probably has some big disagreements on a handful of cultural issues.

              1. I think the ability to do the kinds of really good things the government can do rests in large part on the government being, on balance, effective and responsible. Not perfect mind you, because nothing is perfect. But it does need to operate from an understanding that it’s going to have to work really hard, and be really good, to get credit, and that a relatively small amount of idiocy is going to be weighed (at times grossly) disproportionately against it.

              2. I think the Democratic party and the progressive permanent bureaucracy, and its auxillaries in education, corporate HR, and influential NGO spaces, desperately want to be able to discriminate against my sons based on race and sex. Your own comments here at times suggest you’d be comfortable with that too. I don’t think any progeny of mine ought to be given unfair advantage (as if my glorious genes aren’t enough- kidding) but I’m never going to be on board with a system like that. Neither are a lot of people, including, increasingly, the people who are nominally supposed to benefit from it.

              Now at the end of the day I vote based on the fact that I think the greater evil is, for example, to (pretend to but not actually) balance the federal budget on the backs of health insurance that mainly helps poor women and children. And thats to say nothing of putting ignorant yahoos in charge. It’s like trying to solve a problem by giving a monkey a hand grenade. However as long as the Democrats and progressive bureaucracies are steeped in this stuff it will be asking for many, many people ro swallow a bitter and bordering on poisonous pill.Report

              • Philip H in reply to InMD
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                Your sons – and mine – still live in a world where they are statistically more likely to gain advantage then my white daughters or my black nieces and nephews. It’s like the tech bro rage about feminizing corporations which are 90% Helen’s by men. Frankly until the situation for my daughters and nieces and nephew gets to the place our sons enjoy you can take you sanctimonious rage and go sit in the corner.Report

              • InMD in reply to Philip H
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                Heh, sanctimonious rage? The tone was intended as constructive and friendly.
                Anyway accusing anyone of sanctimony is pretty rich coming from a guy who down below is speaking approvingly about the Pope just because of a single point you agree with, as if you actually care what the Holy See says about anything generally.

                Also not sure what you mean by ‘gain advantage.’ Maybe you’ll be more specific. But the reality is that women now outnumber men in college by about 10%, and are outpacing them on virtually every educational achievement metric. Plenty of high earning, high prestige professions like medicine and law (my profession) are close to female dominated and based on pipeline will be even moreso over the next generation or two. I don’t have any problem with this in principle. So rest assured, all the opportunity is there for them, and there’s no need for these official anf quasi official discrimination games.Report

              • Philip H in reply to InMD
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                I was actually being sarcastic about the bishops since a good many of them have made gay out of telling g the pope quite publicly why he is wrong.Report

              • CJColucci in reply to Philip H
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                Typo or Freudian slip?Report

            • Jaybird in reply to Saul Degraw
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              I heard that they’re so autistic that they’re practically ace.Report

            • CJColucci in reply to Saul Degraw
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              Anyone for whom DEI is a top 25 issue is either not a serious person, or very serious indeed, and pushing an agenda that they dare not openly advocate in polite company.Report

  13. Jaybird
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    Pope Francis has pneumonia in both of his lungs, the Vatican reports.

    They say “you always follow a fat pope with a thin one.”

    We’ll see what thin looks like, I guess.Report

    • Marchmaine in reply to Jaybird
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      and he’s only got one lung…

      My gut says he’ll recover … not getting the ‘there’s nothing to worry about here…. oops he died’ vibe we usually get. But, he is 88 with only one lung… so you never know.Report

  14. DavidTC
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    I’m following the hearing about the EOs barring trans people from the military live on Blue Sky, they are going _exceptionally_ poorly for the government.

    Things like the judge asking ‘Can you explain how pronoun usage harms military preparedness’, and she tore into them when they could not answer. And asking if the EO saying that an entire group of people are ‘dishonest, undisciplined, and lack integrity’ is ‘expressing animus’, a thing that is pretty important to the suit, and that the government lawyer was unwilling to confirm (Because it would be disastrous for the case) or deny (Because, you know, pesky legal ethics.) that.Report

  15. Jaybird
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    New app just dropped. Personal security professionals. The dev calls it “Uber with guns“.

    Minimum booking time is five hours but, sometimes, you need security very very badly.

    Now you can just book it from your phone! Currently limited to NYC and LA but I can easily imagine other cities having a handful of potential clients that have a need for temporary private security.Report

  16. Philip H
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    Something to ponder – by firing all the probationary Feds using lies about performance one creates the veneer of “cause” to the terminations. And guess what type of firing prevents you from getting unemployment benefits?Report

  17. Saul Degraw
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    Whatever this means: Trump signed more executive orders including one that “reestablishes the long-standing norm that only the president or the attorney general can speak for the United States when stating an opinion as to what the law is,” Scharf said.

    https://abc7.com/post/trump-will-sign-new-executive-orders/15927230/Report

    • CJColucci in reply to Saul Degraw
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      WTF does that even mean? It goes without saying that, in legal proceedings, the position of the United States on what the law is or should be is presented by DOJ, under the direction of the AG and, ultimately, the President. Outside of legal proceedings, nobody speaks for the United States in any way that matters. If a rogue AUSA does something stupid in court, he or she can be fired. If the United States Attorney for the Western District of East Bumf**k mouths off at a bar association dinner, he or she can be slapped down. Is this EO a solution in search of a problem?Report

      • Philip H in reply to CJColucci
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        From out here in the cheap seats it looks like an attempt to codify ignoring the courts.Report

        • Michael Cain in reply to Philip H
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          That was my thought. For example, the President can say that Massachusetts v. EPA was wrongly decided, that carbon dioxide isn’t a pollutant under the Clean Air Act, so the EPA can’t regulate carbon dioxide.Report

          • CJColucci in reply to Michael Cain
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            It wouldn’t surprise me if that was what’s behind this, but a President has always been able to say what he damn pleases and can make what he says the “position of the United States.” The “position of the United States,” however, is merely that, a “position.”* It isn’t law, and isn’t a license to disregard what is law.

            *Just the other day, I was talking with a lawyer who kept saying “our position is…” I told him that may be his “position,” but if push came to shove he’d have to come up with a reason that a court would buy it, and he hadn’t given me one.Report

      • Saul Degraw in reply to CJColucci
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        I think it is about further gutting agencies that are independent from the executive by statute. It could be about gutting the Federal Courts ability to decide on the Constitutionality of Executive Orders and starting the pretext for ignoring them if/when the Supreme Court rules against Trump.

        Trump and Co are still very high on their own supply and today they “ended” congestion pricing in NYC while sending out a faux Time cover with Long Live the King and Trump wearing a crown.

        Hochul is responding well but theatre criticism demands that people criticize Hochul’s responseReport

  18. Saul Degraw
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    Pope Francis is dying and he is using his last moments to tell the U.S. Bishops than Trump and Co. are up to no good and especially calling out J.D. Vance.

    LETTER OF THE HOLY FATHER FRANCIS
    TO THE BISHOPS OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA

    _________________

    Dear Brothers in the Episcopate,

    I am writing today to address a few words to you in these delicate moments that you are living as Pastors of the People of God who walk together in the United States of America.

    1. The journey from slavery to freedom that the People of Israel traveled, as narrated in the Book of Exodus, invites us to look at the reality of our time, so clearly marked by the phenomenon of migration, as a decisive moment in history to reaffirm not only our faith in a God who is always close, incarnate, migrant and refugee, but also the infinite and transcendent dignity of every human person. [1]

    2. These words with which I begin are not an artificial construct. Even a cursory examination of the Church’s social doctrine emphatically shows that Jesus Christ is the true Emmanuel (cf. Mt 1:23); he did not live apart from the difficult experience of being expelled from his own land because of an imminent risk to his life, and from the experience of having to take refuge in a society and a culture foreign to his own. The Son of God, in becoming man, also chose to live the drama of immigration. I like to recall, among other things, the words with which Pope Pius XII began his Apostolic Constitution on the Care of Migrants, which is considered the “Magna Carta” of the Church’s thinking on migration:

    “The family of Nazareth in exile, Jesus, Mary and Joseph, emigrants in Egypt and refugees there to escape the wrath of an ungodly king, are the model, the example and the consolation of emigrants and pilgrims of every age and country, of all refugees of every condition who, beset by persecution or necessity, are forced to leave their homeland, beloved family and dear friends for foreign lands.” [2]

    3. Likewise, Jesus Christ, loving everyone with a universal love, educates us in the permanent recognition of the dignity of every human being, without exception. In fact, when we speak of “infinite and transcendent dignity,” we wish to emphasize that the most decisive value possessed by the human person surpasses and sustains every other juridical consideration that can be made to regulate life in society. Thus, all the Christian faithful and people of good will are called upon to consider the legitimacy of norms and public policies in the light of the dignity of the person and his or her fundamental rights, not vice versa.

    4. I have followed closely the major crisis that is taking place in the United States with the initiation of a program of mass deportations. The rightly formed conscience cannot fail to make a critical judgment and express its disagreement with any measure that tacitly or explicitly identifies the illegal status of some migrants with criminality. At the same time, one must recognize the right of a nation to defend itself and keep communities safe from those who have committed violent or serious crimes while in the country or prior to arrival. That said, the act of deporting people who in many cases have left their own land for reasons of extreme poverty, insecurity, exploitation, persecution or serious deterioration of the environment, damages the dignity of many men and women, and of entire families, and places them in a state of particular vulnerability and defenselessness.

    5. This is not a minor issue: an authentic rule of law is verified precisely in the dignified treatment that all people deserve, especially the poorest and most marginalized. The true common good is promoted when society and government, with creativity and strict respect for the rights of all — as I have affirmed on numerous occasions — welcomes, protects, promotes and integrates the most fragile, unprotected and vulnerable. This does not impede the development of a policy that regulates orderly and legal migration. However, this development cannot come about through the privilege of some and the sacrifice of others. What is built on the basis of force, and not on the truth about the equal dignity of every human being, begins badly and will end badly.

    6. Christians know very well that it is only by affirming the infinite dignity of all that our own identity as persons and as communities reaches its maturity. Christian love is not a concentric expansion of interests that little by little extend to other persons and groups. In other words: the human person is not a mere individual, relatively expansive, with some philanthropic feelings! The human person is a subject with dignity who, through the constitutive relationship with all, especially with the poorest, can gradually mature in his identity and vocation. The true ordo amoris that must be promoted is that which we discover by meditating constantly on the parable of the “Good Samaritan” (cf. Lk 10:25-37), that is, by meditating on the love that builds a fraternity open to all, without exception. [3]

    7. But worrying about personal, community or national identity, apart from these considerations, easily introduces an ideological criterion that distorts social life and imposes the will of the strongest as the criterion of truth.

    8. I recognize your valuable efforts, dear brother bishops of the United States, as you work closely with migrants and refugees, proclaiming Jesus Christ and promoting fundamental human rights. God will richly reward all that you do for the protection and defense of those who are considered less valuable, less important or less human!

    9. I exhort all the faithful of the Catholic Church, and all men and women of good will, not to give in to narratives that discriminate against and cause unnecessary suffering to our migrant and refugee brothers and sisters. With charity and clarity we are all called to live in solidarity and fraternity, to build bridges that bring us ever closer together, to avoid walls of ignominy and to learn to give our lives as Jesus Christ gave his for the salvation of all.

    10. Let us ask Our Lady of Guadalupe to protect individuals and families who live in fear or pain due to migration and/or deportation. May the “Virgen morena”, who knew how to reconcile peoples when they were at enmity, grant us all to meet again as brothers and sisters, within her embrace, and thus take a step forward in the construction of a society that is more fraternal, inclusive and respectful of the dignity of all.

    Fraternally,

    Francis

    From the Vatican, 10 February 2025Report

  19. Saul Degraw
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/02/18/world/americas/trump-migrant-deportation-panama.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare

    This administration that is very concerned with Christians has deported an Iranian convert to Christianity to Panama where she is trapped in a hotel room. If she has to go back to Iran, she will be killed most likely.Report

  20. Saul Degraw
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    says:

    https://bsky.app/profile/ryanjreilly.com/post/3lik4sbvu4c2n

    U.S. Attorney Ed Martin to launch investigation into Schumer.

    Horman has asked the DOJ to investigate AOC for using her free speech rights to advise people pulled over by ICE on their rights.Report

  21. Saul Degraw
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    says:

    https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2025/02/all-hail-the-king

    1. Trump states he is ending congestion pricing in NYC;

    2. Hochul says FU, we will see you in court.

    3. Trump declares himself king on social mediaReport

  22. Saul Degraw
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    says:

    https://bsky.app/profile/joshuajfriedman.com/post/3likp45oxkk2n

    A master class in how you respond to TrumpReport

    • North in reply to Saul Degraw
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      says:

      What the heck happened? Did Hochul get abducted and replaced with a pod person? Is there some way to make sure the real one doesn’t come back?Report

      • Jaybird in reply to North
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        says:

        I’m not sure it’s going to work. For one thing, who is the target audience? It wasn’t the people who couldn’t afford to drive! The target audience is the people that could.

        Here’s the problem that I see. This isn’t a left vs. right thing. This is a populist vs. elite thing and Hochul is speaking to the elite.

        I suppose that that’s better than treating it as left vs. right… I mean, it actually understands the frame. But the target audience is smaller than the people who had to make the tradeoff to take mass transit.Report

        • North in reply to Jaybird
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          The legality of this strikes me as black and white and unambiguously outside Don’s authority. Your political analysis strikes me as debatable- yes maybe some people who made the tradeoffs and took transit instead will be delighted by this. It’s also possible that an equal number of people who enjoyed the noticeably reduced congestion will be less pleased. Could be that this’ll please more people than it displeases but, to be blunt, Don isn’t winning New Jersey or New York state even if he makes some of their upstaters happy two years away from the next election. Whereas the Dems saying “fish you, that’s illegal” strikes me as useful for their sides moral in a way that could snowball forward towards the election. I don’t think pre-emptive obedience is going to be helpful.

          And that’s without touching on Trump declaring himself King. Maybe a few libertarians and righties actually would care about that. Lol I know, sorry, couldn’t help but try the joke. Snerk.Report

          • Jaybird in reply to North
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            says:

            Oh, yes. “Eff you, that’s illegal!” is a great play.

            And pulling the whole “they used federal funds for transportation, that makes it under the auspices of FedGov” should be familiar to anybody who used to argue with Libertarians.Report

            • North in reply to Jaybird
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              Sure, and that’s an argument for the courts which, most likely, Trump will viscously lose because whatever argument one might make about federal funds being used for transportation giving them a say it’s unlikely that Trump writing ‘repeal it” on a napkin and tweeting it out is the acceptable method to throw that weight around. When it’s an unambiguously good program and a strong legal case I think the preponderance of the advantage is in fighting for it.Report

      • Saul Degraw in reply to North
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        Like many Democratic women (or Democrats in general), I think she sees Trump as a person without any redeeming qualities.

        1. In the call between Democratic Governors and Schumer/Jefferies, she apparently gave a variant of people need to FAFO in order to ensure they never vote for Trump again;

        2. She takes abortion rights seriously as demonstrated by her stance in fighting against LA and TX.

        3. She seems like she might be willing to do something about Adams because having Trump in control of NYC with Adams as his puppet-prefect it bad.Report

  23. Jaybird
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    Hey, remember Mayor Bass? She’s investigating why she was allowed to go on a trip. I am not making this up.

    Report

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