6 thoughts on “Russian Interference Is Back

  1. Dave Rubin isn’t connected with Tenet anymore, as far as I know. Tim Pool is way bigger than his Tenet following. Chen used to be bigger than Tenet, but maybe she’s thrown most of her effort into it.

    As I mentioned elsewhere, I’ve been a longtime watcher of Matt Christiansen, who is a fairly small operator among YouTubers. Even in his case, his Tenet work is much smaller than his main show. I don’t think Tenet was anyone’s claim to fame or meal ticket. I’d like to compare subs, but I don’t see Tenet Media on YouTube right now.Report

      1. I’ve watched most of their team at different times over the years. Tim Pool is a lefty who’s gone rabidly Trumpist. He and former Young Turk Dave Rubin were the biggest names on the platform. And just because no one’s making money or having influence *now* doesn’t mean that evil forces weren’t trying to build it up to be a more dangerous influence in the future.

        Chen and Southern are more the nationalists. It’s weird for me, because Christiansen is one of the most level-headed rightward voices online. He drives his audience nuts, making only the fairest arguments and steel-manning his opponents before explaining his position. I admire him, even when I disagree with him.Report

        1. Looking around some more – and I guess I’m doing this for my own curiosity – it looks like Lauren Chen and Liam Donovan line up as Founder-1 and Founder-2 (not sure which is which).

          The indictment emphasizes the pull of Commentator-1 and Commentator-2, so I assume they’re Tim Pool and Dave Rubin (again, not sure which is which). Lauren Southern is the only female among the commentators, so it looks like she’s Commentator-4. Matt Christiansen posted a video with phrasing that matches the description of one posted by Commentator-6.

          There are also three producers in the indictment, and I didn’t notice any hints about their identities. There’s no indication of any deliberate participation of any of the commentators beyond one of the producers encouraging Commentator-3 to do a pro-Russian take on the Moscow terror attack, which he was happy to do.Report

  2. Anyone who believes these Reactionary ghouls didn’t know they were being paid hundreds of thousands of dollars a month to help propagate Russian propaganda is either a MAGA cultist or a Twitter (X) bot…Report

  3. It isn’t even a matter of being paid shills. Most of the MAGA crowd are influenced by affinity with the Russian oligarchy and happily parrot their talking points for free.

    And the goal of authoritarians isn’t anything coherent- the goal is simply to sow division and discord.

    This is because liberal democracy is a fragile thing only made possible by carefully constructed consensus and rapport and trust, whereas brute authoritarianism is the default setting of society.

    This is why when you scan MAGA commentary, it is always decline and fall. Crime is always rising, kids are always being corrupted, cities are always cesspools of dysfunction.Report

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