About Last Night: Florida, New York, and Oklahoma Primary Results

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  1. Saul Degraw says:

    The highlight of the night for Democrats was that the party one a special election and flipped New York’s 19th district on abortion rights. They also did well-above average in the NY-23 special election. NY-22 looks like a potential candidate to turn blue in November.

    Other than that, the NY attempt at redistricting was a massive self-own. Part of this comes from the act that a lot of New York Democrats come from different non-profits that compete for resources and do not know how to unite behind a single candidate. Nadler is a better keep than Maloney. A lot of progressives seem displeased that Daniel Goldman beat Mondaire Jones in a crowded primary for the NY-10. Daniel Goldman seems to be getting the “moderate” label because he is a straight, Jewish, dude.Report

  2. Saul Degraw says:

    I’m generally a fan of Vox but this bit of writing rubbed me the wrong way: “In the most hotly contested open seat, New York’s 10th Congressional District, Daniel Goldman, the main congressional attorney in the first impeachment trial of former President Donald Trump (and heir to the Levi Strauss fortune) spent Tuesday night on the verge of beating out a field of more progressive candidates with a little over a quarter of the total vote. That field included a sitting progressive, Rep. Mondaire Jones, who entered the race after his old seat was eliminated and he was forced to choose between running in the new seat that overlapped with his old district or finding another race.

    The race became a bit of a microcosm for tensions running through the modern Democratic Party, with conflict along race, class, and ideological lines. A safe Democratic seat, the 10th District encompasses Lower Manhattan and Chinatown, as well as parts of progressive Brooklyn, making it one of the most diverse districts in the state. With Asian American, Latina, and Black candidates all vying for the most progressive mantle, Goldman, who is Jewish, was thrust into the more moderate lane. Goldman’s personal wealth was also a sticking point in the race, as he was able to loan his campaign $1 million — leading to criticism from progressives. With Goldman’s win, this Democratic free-for-all will result in more representation for the city’s Jewish community, but the loss of a prominent Black, gay incumbent: Jones.”

    https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2022/8/24/23319493/winners-losers-new-york-florida-primaries

    As far as I can tell, Goldman is a go along and get along Democrat who will always vote for and with the party. He won’t try and throw a spanner in things like Gottheimer or Sinema. Yet, there is some real “Jews don’t count” energy here.Report

    • LeeEsq in reply to Saul Degraw says:

      Besides a lot of people thinking that Jews are basically white at this point, they also seem to think that Black, Hispanic, and Asian voters are more liberal than they actually are. From what I can tell the preferred hierarchy of minority populations in terms of ethnicity is Black, Native American/Hispanic, Asian, Jewish, and then white among the Intersectional set.Report

      • Jaybird in reply to LeeEsq says:

        While I suppose I can understand why Jewish people would say “we’re not white” and I suppose I can understand why some white folks might agree with them, I don’t know why the expectation would be that Black, Native American/Hispanic, and Asian folks would agree on this point.

        “It’s different than Italians and Irish people!”, you can yell. “We aren’t Protestants!”Report

        • LeeEsq in reply to Jaybird says:

          They seem to like invoking our past to get us to help their causes. At the same time, the activist set wants to say that we are too white, affluent, and privileged to count as the wretched of the earth club. This seems to be wanting to have their cake and it eat to with Jews.Report

          • Jaybird in reply to LeeEsq says:

            Are affluence and privilege measurable?

            If they are (even if it’s just a qualitative thing rather than a quantitative thing), then is it worth running the measurements?

            Because if it ends up being yet another “$250,000 a year isn’t that much money” argument, I don’t think it’ll end up in the place where you want it to go. Especially not if you’re arguing against $53,500/year types.Report

        • Mike Schilling in reply to Jaybird says:

          We’re white only when that’s a bad thing.Report