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Sarah Baker
The Socialism of Bernie Sanders
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Wednesday Writs: The Daubert Standard
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Lent!
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Lent!
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Rolling The Dice On A Rainy Day
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From Fox News: Bernie Sanders projected to win Nevada caucuses
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The comments...

AvatarLeeEsq in reply to Stillwater
+ Have you ever considered that Trump was lying during his campaign on everything except immigration? He governed as a far right republican since he got [. . .]

Nor is authoritarian kleptocracy, which is the Trumpist model. I'm not a Bernie fan, but he remains the lesser evil.

+ IIRC, there's been some concern about the Daubert standard in criminal cases. It has allowed the admission of pseudo-scientific evidence that judges aren't qualified to [. . .]
AvatarOscar Gordon

L5: Trumps paranoia... How many paint chips did he eat as a kid? As an adult?

+ The same can be said of his healthcare plans - abolishing private health insurance is not a common European practice - even New Zealand and [. . .]
+ Oh, and I was reminded in the car that we're taking a week off next month to go down to Florida and visit my uncles [. . .]
+ The argument that makes sense to me is that my doctor doesn't tell me to exercise because she hates the idea of me coming home [. . .]
+ I dunno. Last year took so many things from me I almost feel like....I don't know. I joked today that I was still mad at [. . .]
AvatarBrandon Berg
+ This is the kind of thing that would really benefit from some numbers. Currently federal spending is a bit over 20% of GDP. Sanders is [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels in reply to Mike Schilling

And of course, "Farmers" are not to be confused with "Farm workers".

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AvatarChip Daniels in reply to The question
+ Which only prompts me to note how "radical" the New Deal era was compared to ours. The degree of outright government control over private industries during [. . .]
AvatarThe question in reply to Michael Siegel
+ I mean the federal government owns the Tennessee valley authority he basically wants to do that except over the whole country which yeah seems like [. . .]

The asymmetry is that Republicans in congress are irresponsible assholes who'd vote for anything that allays the threat of being primaried.

But that's for Real Americans -- farmers. (Never Mind that they're largely big corporations.)

AvatarStillwater in reply to Chip Daniels
+ Trump ran in a climate where the single biggest catastrophe in US history was perpetrated by Republicans (with a vote of support from Hillary). He [. . .]
AvatarInMD in reply to Stillwater
+ True enough, though it also gets to my comment to PD Shaw below. The conversation on each candidate's positions doesn't seem to account much [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels in reply to Stillwater
+ As with Trump, the winner inspires legions around the country to try and emulate his success. Sanders' and ascension represents the final death knell of the [. . .]
AvatarStillwater in reply to InMD
+ I'll say this much about Sanders though, and on this I think he's right: you can't pull the Democratic party to the left by saying [. . .]
AvatarStillwater in reply to InMD
+ The votes aren't there even if Dems controlled the House, Senate and POTUS. And even in that scenario I think a public option would be [. . .]
AvatarStillwater in reply to George Turner

It'd probably wrap up the Wisconsin vote.

AvatarInMD in reply to Stillwater
+ Maybe I'm being naive but I think the realistic absolute shooting the moon for a Sanders admin would be something like undoing the Trump tax [. . .]
AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to Stillwater

I think he'd get more votes if he said he was going to make beer free for everybody.

AvatarInMD in reply to PD Shaw
+ This gets to another aspect of our debates that are disconnected from reality. We talk about candidate platforms in a vacuum as though the [. . .]
AvatarStillwater in reply to Chip Daniels

He *can* be beaten. But not by citing how well Bernie is doing in California. :)

AvatarChip Daniels in reply to Stillwater
+ Maybe. But in three years he hasn't expanded his voting base by a single vote. He has one note, a mixture of bitterness and petulant grievance, [. . .]
AvatarDW Dalrymple

.....I’m retired from that life my friend!

AvatarDW Dalrymple in reply to Kristin Devine

Thanks Kristin, it was fun writing it.

AvatarSaul Degraw
+ The word socialism is an interesting because it produces extreme reactions. I think a lot but not all of those are based on age. [. . .]
AvatarPD Shaw
+ I'm not a libertarian, though I voted for one once and may again this election, but the OP begs the question of why Bernie Sanders [. . .]
AvatarStillwater in reply to Chip Daniels
+ Chip. Here's two cents worth: Trump is cunning and smart and ruthless and you underestimate him at your peril. "But he hasn't read the Classics! HE [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels in reply to Stillwater

You're describing a Trump who thinks in terms longer than beyond his evening meal which i think is anthropomorphizing him a bit.

AvatarStillwater in reply to Michael Siegel
+ Well, he also talks about making state universities tuition free. Is that a signal that he proposes to use federal executive power to "nationalize" state-owned [. . .]
AvatarStillwater in reply to Chip Daniels
+ Trump's biggest mistake and probably his biggest regret politically is that he let McConnell and Ryan steam roll him into doing repeal/replace right outa the [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels in reply to George Turner

You realize that throughout almost all of American history, we have had varying degrees of all those things? Including the re-education camps?

AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to Chip Daniels
+ The socialism in "nationalism plus socialism" was real socialism, focused on banking reform, price controls, rationalization of trade, aid to the poor, pensions, health care, [. . .]
AvatarNorth

Great piece, love the pragmatism. Still hope it doesn't come to Bernie but seems like a good way to look at it if it does.

Avatargreginak
+ Concur with other people who said this is good. My general take is that almost all discussion of C or S start of stupid and [. . .]
AvatarDark Matter in reply to LeeEsq
+ From your link, basically a description of where my head is at. We found that nominating Sanders would drive many Americans who would otherwise vote for [. . .]
AvatarDark Matter in reply to Chip Daniels
+ a choice between two socialisms. This is kindergarten reasoning. "If I'm a jerk, then you're a jerk too!" Lowering the bar so that all bad [. . .]
Avatargreginak in reply to Andrew Donaldson
+ That is simple pay outs. It doesn't nationalize anything. Aside from needing both houses to go along B's plans would likely be fought in court. [. . .]
AvatarInMD
+ I have my quibbles with this piece but overall agree with the sentiment. Every debate on the big 3 of housing, healthcare, and higher [. . .]
AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to Andrew Donaldson
+ But did that result in a any government owned farms, or did it just give money to farmers? Truman tried to nationalize the steel industry to [. . .]
Avatargreginak in reply to Stillwater

There have been recent favorable and unfavorable polls on Wisc. I believe it was all based on sample weighting.

AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to Stillwater
+ A woman in Wuhan posted videos of her Internet-controlled food-delivery all-terrain toy truck zipping through the city. She will probably own much of the [. . .]
+ The one of the largest domestic socialism program in the history of the United States at $28B and counting - the Market Facilitation Program, otherwise [. . .]
AvatarOscar Gordon in reply to Michael Siegel

He may talk about it, but by what mechanism could he legally do it, absent congress passing legislation giving him that kind of power?

+ " He isn’t going to nationalize the means of production." I'm not entirely sure of this. He's talking about nationalizing insurance and energy production for starters. [. . .]