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Unqualified: The Winding Road of Qualified Immunity
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Derek Chauvin’s Charges, Explained
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Does Anyone Owe Colin Kaepernick An Apology?
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Integralists: America’s Would-be Theocrats
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Vox Media and New York Media merge
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Weekend Plans Post: A Breath of Fresh Air
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An Appalling Lack of Rights: From Inanlienable, to meritorious, to “Yeah, but…”
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The comments...

AvatarEm Carpenter in reply to George Turner

Where is this new video? I’m looking and not finding it anywhere. Have a link?

AvatarEm Carpenter in reply to Slade the Leveller
+ Someone on Twitter pointed out that there is some case law that 3rd degree can’t be used when the defendant had a specific target. If [. . .]
AvatarAaron David in reply to Slade the Leveller
+ Oh, that is definately my thought as well. But there are a lot of people who, rightly or wrongly, will feel that 3rd isn't enough, [. . .]
AvatarSlade the Leveller in reply to Aaron David
+ I’d rather see a slam dunk case on this than see some prosecutorial grandstanding. I don’t know what the typical MN sentence is for 3rd [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels in reply to George Turner

So, kneeling on a seizing patient's neck who complains of breathing trouble...not a recommended treatment then?

AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to Mike Schilling

Conservatism really doesn't change. That's why they call it conservatism. They're the people who don't accept change.

AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to Chip Daniels
+ How much pressure was he applying? What had he been told by the first responders on the front lines of the heroin epidemic? [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels in reply to Pinky

God: "Where do you get such a lust for sexual pleasure?

Me, lip quavering: "You, OK? I got it from YOU!"
*flounces out of the room*

Beliefs change, avowed 'principles' changes, allies change, heroes changes. The only constants are the hatred and the lust for power.

Conservatism is still based on a stool, but now it's a medical term.

You might say that, under Reno, First Things has taken the mask off.

Steve PittelliSteve
+ When I was a kid in the mid 1970's, we used to attend the Univ. Michigan home football games. At the time, there was a [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels in reply to George Turner

And where in first aid handbooks would I find kneeling on his neck as a treatment for seizure and breathing difficulty?

AvatarInMD in reply to InMD
+ Also Em just saw your response to me on the other post, thanks again for all the work you do keeping these discussions grounded in [. . .]
AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to Chip Daniels
+ They were waiting on the EMT's. If they wanted to take him to jail, they wouldn't have taken him out of the back of [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels in reply to George Turner
+ "This guy was seizing and having trouble breathing. So instead of calling an EMT, I put him on the ground face down and then knelt [. . .]
AvatarStillwater
+ Does this count as an apology? We, the NFL, condemn racism and the systematic oppression of Black People. We, the NFL, admit we were wrong [. . .]
AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to JS
+ The trouble with your arguments is that apparently Chauvin is on camera saying exactly that in reply to his fellow officer asking him why he [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels in reply to greginak
+ In downtown the neighborhoods have created Business Improvement Districts (BID) and each BID has a team of uniformed safety officers who ride around on bikes [. . .]
AvatarMarchmaine in reply to veronica d

Yep, I'm the one who didn't get it (or the DK reference...)

+ This is one of those situations where the jury will "have to" convict. I, too, believe it should convict. But let's just remember that we've already [. . .]
Avatargreginak in reply to Oscar Gordon
+ I've seen people assert that we ask the cops to deal with social problems. I don't think that's true. We just don't deal with the [. . .]
AvatarOscar Gordon in reply to JS
+ Related: Do we need police? Short answer, yes. Longer answer - we need to stop asking them to deal with social problems. Which means we [. . .]
AvatarAaron David in reply to Jaybird

Hey, if it aint on camera, it aint on the docket...

Sadly.

3rd Degree is the charge for when a cop kills a citizen who is not a cop on camera.

AvatarAaron David in reply to InMD
+ You are expressing my thoughts on this exactly. Much like the Freddy Grey case and the officers being aquited, I can see this happening here. [. . .]
AvatarInMD in reply to Dark Matter
+ He had been benched when this started. You have to have a lot of talent to overcome any sort of distraction. He was [. . .]
AvatarJS in reply to JS
+ To go ahead and add to this: No police officer, EMT, public servant, or person in the whole US is trained, taught, encouraged, or in [. . .]
AvatarInMD in reply to Oscar Gordon
+ This may be the 'right' answer in a certain cosmic sense but I'm skeptical it's supported by applicable authority. In fact I strongly suspect [. . .]
+ "If Chauvin did tell his fellow officer that he was holding Floyd on his stomach so he didn’t go into seizures," Hi! I have seizure disorder, [. . .]
+ The first, I think. It's a kiddy pool. Just me and the wife--it's good couple time and you know Colorado--nice blue skies, music, cool water, [. . .]
AvatarDark Matter in reply to Dark Matter
+ Just found out this was not an "ordinary" day for Derek (the killer). Derek's wife (who is a POC btw) separated from him the day before [. . .]
AvatarChip Daniels
+ There is a list of people to whom the world owes an apology. Sinead O' Connor, who tried to warn us of the toxic culture that [. . .]
AvatarEm Carpenter in reply to George Turner
+ Derek Chauvin did not know that Floyd had fentanyl in his system. A knee to the neck and a face shoved into pavement is not [. . .]

Like, a two person who are dating inflatable pool or, like, 4 people who have met before pool or what?

+ It sucks that it was unsatisfying. I find that interactions with others are greatly improved by food. The whole "isolation" thing is getting to me as [. . .]
AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to Em Carpenter
+ If Chauvin did tell his fellow officer that he was holding Floyd on his stomach so he didn't go into seizures, as another video seems [. . .]
+ Mom is moving. She's moving out of her "empty nest" condo into a "mom, you need to stop going up and down stairs all the [. . .]
AvatarDoctor Jay
+ What we are trying to do in America - what we've been working at for the last 250ish years - is not easy for human [. . .]
AvatarDark Matter
+ I don't watch football, and as such never saw him take a knee. When I heard about it at the time I thought it [. . .]
AvatarStillwater in reply to Em Carpenter

Quite right!

I'll stop talking about legal stuff now. :)

(Though I'm curious how I got the mistaken impression the two things were tied together...)

+ I should probably, uh, unfish my habitat (clean). It's gotten bad again. Other than that, IDEK. It's going to be death-hot here this weekend so [. . .]
AvatarStillwater in reply to Jaybird
+ Earlier I was going to write something about how powerful the visual of Buffalo PD pushing a 75 year old man to the ground and [. . .]
AvatarEm Carpenter in reply to Stillwater
+ I don't think that makes much sense. The other three could have easily been charged with aiding and abetting third degree murder too, or even [. . .]
AvatarGeorge Turner in reply to Jaybird
+ Well, the mayor LA promised some sweeping reforms, such as requiring cops to intervene if another cop is using excessive force or acting inappropriately, and [. . .]
AvatarEm Carpenter in reply to InMD
+ I did a write up on the charging statutes, but didn't want to get into the weeds on lesser included offenses because I am not [. . .]