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Certainty About the Law
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a quote for the middle of the afternoon
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Torture (II)
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On drawing attention to that which you despise.
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The Problem with the Tea Parties
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torture
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(Intellectually) Leggy Blond
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Chef Dave provides today’s recipe…
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Why I care about this Apple vs. PC business
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A pro-Apple commenter said it perfectly…
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Call to Arms
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Why I’m Conflicted on Torture Prosecutions
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The comments...

AvatarRoque Nuevo
+ Thanks for mentioning me here, Mark. In fact, you showed me how difficult it is to speculate about the law for a non-lawyer and therefore [. . .]
AvatarRoque Nuevo
+ ChrisWWW: How does the Thiessen article change anything? Thiessen is hardly a unbiased observer, and all he can do is make vague assertions about the effectiveness [. . .]
Avatarmatoko_chan
+ Sign me up. Anyone that thinks America is not part of the global community should research Operation Ajax and its contribution to our current Iranian problems. Actions [. . .]
AvatarDanilo
+ Maybe Americans will finally take off the rose-colored glassed with which their view their (our) country, as if it were the only one with a [. . .]
AvatarJaybird
+ Perhaps Obama will surprise me. Perhaps it will turn out that, say, the people who did these things will be prosecuted. Perhaps we will have [. . .]
+ If you're in the mainstream in a relevant environment - or at least think you are - complaining loudly about the folks on the fringe [. . .]
+ Jaybird, I appreciate the impulse that drives you to find false equivalences between sides on a political argument. Our media does it, Ralph Nader does, I [. . .]
AvatarJaybird

Sure. And, much like whatshername that mother of that dead guy, Glenn will turn from "principled critic" to "moonbat".

Watch.

AvatarWill

Then, quite frankly, we're fucked.

AvatarCascadian

And if torture becomes part of our national history, and in some circles identity?

Avatarmatoko_chan

Did you see that Palin tv interview....where she was asked .....just who are these "elites"?
Her answer-- "anyone that thinks they are better than you."

+ E.D. Kain + Sonny Bunch, The UN Convention Against Torture, which the US signed onto in 1994, says: No exceptional circumstances whatsoever, whether a state of war [. . .]
Avatarmatoko_chan

E.D. .......here is why the Palin rallies made us so uncomfortable.
I suspect.
Read through the comments.
Inferiority complex.

Jaybird,
Significant voices on the political left have already displayed the ability to disagree with Obama on principled issues.

Avatarmatoko_chan
+ I dig Manzi's game theoretic approach. Given that human decisionmaking is an emotioncharged process, and that human empathy is distributed over a likely gaussian [. . .]
AvatarChris Dierkes
+ N A, great comment. still chewing on it. i think your point about the simple reality of large-scale as an outgrowth of the technology [. . .]
Avatarmatoko_chan

The single redeeming virtue of this add campaign is that it has spawned many hilarious parodies.

AvatarChris Dierkes

joel,

i like pie.

AvatarJaybird
+ Ask a barber if you need a haircut. Go to 20 barbers and ask them. Let me know how many say you can wait a [. . .]
AvatarJaybird
+ It depends on whether Obama's CIA finds itself in a situation where it has to engage in the same thing. We'll see people explaining how extraordinary [. . .]
+ Then there's the whole "due process" thing; the whole "innocent until proven guilty" aspect of all of this. Maybe there are different circumstances in [. . .]
Avatargreginak

well if people actually believe the we need to torture to help them idea of the dofus quoted above we are screwed.

AvatarCascadian
+ Haven't people died in detention in the black sites? Are we really quibling over one technique for one prisoner? There is little reason [. . .]
Avatargreginak
+ fine say you don't think there should be bailouts. but you then need to add what you think the consequences would be. because there have [. . .]
AvatarJaybird
+ Did Obama increase Bush's deficit? Would it be possible/coherent to say "he shouldn't have made stuff worse"? How about, like, the bailouts? Would it have been possible/coherent [. . .]
+ But the thing is, Sonny - regardless of the moral/utilitarian calculus, the law doesn't make such distinctions. I'd also add that under the Bybee [. . .]
+ Appreciate the kind words, Mark. I wanted to clarify one point on my own thinking about waterboarding. I think that waterboarding falls into a very [. . .]
+ Indeed, John, indeed. The thing about the waterboarding in particular, though, is that the Bybee memo makes pretty clear waterboarding someone just a handful [. . .]
+ Another key point that Sonny's analysis glosses over is that these things weren't done on their own: there was a torture program that was approved [. . .]
+ How will we spin this myth together? How will we hand this story down? If the techniques remain controversial, then we’ll probably see several myths [. . .]

Excelent post, sir! I couldn't agree more.
I've made a reference to it in my own blog (http://techhoje.blogspot.com/2009/04/microsoft-vs-apple-sou-um-pc-nao-sou.html).
Regards,
Antonio Marques

AvatarPendulum
+ My 3 month old Toshiba Satellite (16", 4 GB RAM, 320 GB HD, Intel Core2 Duo), bought for $7o0, seems like it starts to encounter [. . .]
+ Only tangentially related, but I'm sick of people here in the South who say things like: "Oh, I know unions were needed at one time [. . .]
+ Dennis: Thanks for the comment, but there's no reason to be hesitant to interject. If I've learned anything from blogging the last two years, it's [. . .]
+ Mark, With all these lawyers, I sometimes don't think I'm smart enough to engage in this conversation... I have to say that I am conflicted about this [. . .]
+ Farhood is a an Apple booster? I don't think so: http://www.slate.com/id/2198535/pagenum/2 And I think it might be time to check your dictionary, because apart from a [. . .]
+ Nazdehla - I may be a youngish attorney who likes to commit career suicide by blogging. But I'm not a youngish attorney who lacks [. . .]
Avatarmike mcc
+ "I can build you a machine for $1200 that will absolutely slay a $2000 Mac." I'll grant your figures as true, because they are irrelevant. [. . .]
Avatargreginak
+ wow Matt, RQ you guys obviously have a mission in life now. that is to retroactively clear the names of the Japanese officers who were [. . .]
+ If we just continue to pretend that every detainee knows about a bomb about to explode ANY MINUTE in a big building full of babies [. . .]
+ Matthew Dallman, It was torture, because waterboarding. Has. Always. Been. Torture. Period. The United States has actually prosecuted people for waterboarding. Then when you combine it [. . .]
Avatargreginak
+ maybe part of the problem with taking the tea party people seriously is that taxes have been repeatedly lowered, obama is cutting taxes again, the [. . .]
Avatarmatoko_chan

well..there weren't any teaparties in Boulder.
I bet teaparties were pretty rare in university towns.
Mostly college students are Obamotaku.

Avatarmatoko_chan

Wow....John Schwenkler.
Righteous.

AvatarRoque Nuevo

Sorry. The above is from http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/04/20/AR2009042002818.html

AvatarRoque Nuevo
+ For one, your post gives the lie to your own previous "we're loosing our soul"-type opinions. We have done much worse than the worst the [. . .]