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a quote for the middle of the afternoon
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On drawing attention to that which you despise.
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knowing when to get out of the way
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left conservatism revisited
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Torture (II)
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Certainty About the Law
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Comment of the Day
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AvatarAnonymous
+ Roque: "Saving American lives is what we elect the president for. It’s his job, not making sure that our enemies are comfortable. " This is [. . .]
+ In a move to bring additional racial unity to the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, UNC’s Sonja Haynes Stone Center is hosting the [. . .]
AvatarEd
+ Bad Yogi, you are guilty of projection. Everything you said about me you recognize because you practice it. Your screen name is not [. . .]
AvatarJaybird
+ I apologize for the tangent, I'll drop it. I do think that exploring the issues behind "you need to not do that... not only for your [. . .]
AvatarJaybird
+ Why does "employees" make a difference? If they don't want to work in a smoky bar, they can go apply at "we only serve pasteurized [. . .]
AvatarJoel
+ This is some tangent we have here, but there's a solomonic approach to this raw milk problem: simply require that the hazards of consuming said [. . .]
AvatarKatherine
+ Certainly you can drink milk from your own. You can't sell it to other people. You have the right to act as you [. . .]
AvatarCascadian
+ Are there really no safe uses for raw milk? Cheese? Jaybird: I'm not sure you'd have a problem with a bar in a private club, [. . .]
AvatarKatherine
+ Jaybird - it's not about the damage to the person, it's about the health damage to those surrounding them. You don't have the right [. . .]
AvatarJaybird
+ If I own a cow, do you have the right to prevent me from drinking its milk? I say thee nay. I reserve the right to [. . .]
AvatarKatherine
+ Not comparable. A person can endanger themselves by using something in a dangerous way; that doesn't necessarily make the thing itself inherently dangerous. [. . .]
AvatarJaybird
+ How about if I call my bar "Smokey's"? Or "Smoke Em's"? Or "I Ain't Your Mom"? Or "You're A Grownup"? If we can say that people [. . .]
+ Actually, at this point Ed has actually and finally revealed his true colors, ones that many of us here had suspected, but found ourselves unable [. . .]
AvatarCascadian
+ "Looking at it from the other side - do you have the right to knowingly endanger a person’s health through what you sell them?" Skateboards, [. . .]
AvatarCascadian
+ Quite apart from "straights" that find they've been gay longer than they knew, what about religion? If the test for equal rights is a [. . .]
AvatarKatherine
+ If preserving the moral and legal underpinnings of our constitutional system requires increasing our exposure to terrorism, that’s a risk I’m willing to take. I'm with [. . .]
AvatarEd
+ I realized that to engage in arguing with the gay marriage movement is to give it credibility. Gays are interested in the fight and [. . .]
AvatarKatherine
+ Drink Raw Milk? Looking at it from the other side - do you have the right to knowingly endanger a person's health through what you sell [. . .]
Avatarjshubbub

ChrisWWW,

Your dutiful return to happy ignorance is duly noted.

AvatarJaybird
+ Oddly enough, I think all of those are jailable except for the only one that arguably does harm to someone else... teaching kids YEC. (Hrm, [. . .]
AvatarE.D. Kain

Yes, yes, yes (though they better not), yes (though I better not) and yes (though i don't anymore).

AvatarJaybird
+ There are some fairly bright lines, though. Do you have the right to... Drink Raw Milk? Ask a friend for $2 for the beer he just took out [. . .]
AvatarMiles Stuart
+ To Sonny Bunch: Waterboarding the guy who planned the murder of 3,000 people (and is trained in counter-interrogation techniques) under very controlled circumstances to elicit [. . .]
AvatarE.D. Kain
+ Good points, Jaybird, and I pretty much agree with you. The trick is determining what the State can and cannot do, when it should [. . .]

jshubbub,
My sincerest apologies.

AvatarMiles Stuart
+ For the avoidance of doubt the leaked report of the International Committee of the Red Cross is absolutely crystal clear. The detainees were TORTURED repeatedly [. . .]
AvatarPete
+ Here's where this is going to get dicey, kids. Many on the right are crowing about the Obama Administration official possibly saying that some useful [. . .]
AvatarJaybird
+ I saw much to sympathize with in here... except I reached a different conclusion to hit "left conservativism". I asked myself what I had the right [. . .]
Avatarjshubbub
+ However, I thought as species we decided that morally it wasn’t worth it... Well, see, the problem is evident right there in your statement. You thought. [. . .]
AvatarAC
+ Rogue, We were attacked by Tim McVeigh, a US citizen. Should we have treated him the same way we treated KSM et al? To [. . .]
Avatarbailey

We haven't killed anyone under torture? Are you kidding me? I suggest you google Dilawar or al-Jamadi.

Avatardsimon
+ Saving American lives is what we elect the president for. Hm, I thought the oath was to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United [. . .]
+ Efficacy is the only consideration…right? And even the effectiveness of torture is highly in doubt. I'm sure you can get some reliable information from torture. [. . .]
AvatarE.D. Kain
+ Mark: I just hope that your post doesn't mention anything about losing our souls or honor. These are totally irrelevant and unimportant considerations when discussing the [. . .]

Roque - I'm not going to give anything away just yet, but I wouldn't be too worried about that.

AvatarRoque Nuevo
+ Mark: I just hope that your post doesn't mention anything about losing our souls or honor. These are arguments suitable for political campaigns. One has [. . .]
AvatarRoque Nuevo
+ Mark: Do attacks on our embassies and Naval vessels count as attacks on US soil? How about the '93 WTC bombing? But there weren't any [. . .]
+ Roque - credit where it's due. I did appreciate your humility on that issue. My response to that specific question is in the [. . .]
AvatarWill

I really enjoyed reading this post, E.D.

AvatarSteven Donegal
+ "Torture is a difficult subject." No it's not. Torture is a very easy subject--civilized people don't do it. It's the rationalizations for torture that [. . .]

Oops - this wasn't supposed to be published yet. Hiding it now till this afternoon...

Avatarmatoko_chan
+ Who then is free? The wise man who can govern himself. Your own safety is at stake when your neighbors house is in flames. One wanders to [. . .]
AvatarCascadian
+ There may be a time morally where one must sacrifice the queen. However, for the move to be completed the queen must exit [. . .]
AvatarE.D. Kain

Aaaaah...I want a baby nun puppy, too!

AvatarRoque Nuevo
+ ED Kain: "The whole due process thing" and the "innocent until proven guilty thing" are about the fourteenth amendment. This applies to US citizens. Obviously. We're [. . .]
+ Roque: There are a number of immediate red flags that pop up about Thiessen's claims, not least of which is that they are unfalsifiable. We [. . .]
AvatarWill
+ Danilo - Honestly, I hardly think anyone here at the League is guilty of over-romanticizing the United States or its history. My point was simply that [. . .]