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The posts in play...

circumcision at the Daily Dish
don’t tell people what to do with their foreskin, thanks
Guns don’t kill people, but far-right extremists do
How to make a terrible argument, the Matt Steinglass way
simple little question
The welfare state wasn’t designed to be run by status-obsessed assholes
Hidden Talents
Real Postmodern Politics

The comments...

+ That seems a little much to me, Bob. I'm not denying that unions haven't used intimidation practices before or that they won't now, but [. . .]
+ Totally. But what I'm arguing here is that it is not necessarily an infringement into one's rights to say that there are occasions where [. . .]
AvatarBob Cheeks
+ Oh, I dunno, maybe these evil, 'inarticulate,' protesters are wearing iron because they feel 'intimidated' by the phalanx of Core and union thugs present at [. . .]
+ "London was the capital of the world, Jim." That is so true. I guess that's why that woman never went to Beijing to render the [. . .]
+ Not all of us who defend the right to bear arms in public also think it's fine and dandy to arrest someone for wearing a [. . .]
+ "So let’s go into Afghanistan and bomb the fuck out of the country until they finally treat women the way we know they ought. Maybe [. . .]
AvatarJaybird in reply to mike farmer
+ The wacky thing about the most, let's be kind, "heartfelt" arguments against libertarians is that I can't tell if an outraged Republican is making them [. . .]
+ Mike, I'm not sure proximity to the "main event" should be that much of a factor. There are other cues that should come into [. . .]
+ In every King Arthur legend I've ever read, knights left their weapons at the door when before they entered the room with the King. Doing [. . .]
+ Awhile back, when discussing the Prof. Gates incident, more than a few comments were made regarding the intimidation factor of police because they were the [. . .]
+ Thanks for another reasonable rebuttal . I see Hanna Rossin's at it again on the Dish; she just can't help herself. And as [. . .]
Avatargreginak in reply to Ken
+ So what? I would suggest openly bringing a gun to townhall type event is meant as a lightly veiled threat and intimidation at either [. . .]
+ "My gut tells me that the more extreme forms of protest are always less likely to effect change…if that is even possible from a protest." Hrmmm... [. . .]
+ By the way, the fact that wearing a gun at a rally is intended as intimidation or a threat is not dispositive. Not all [. . .]
+ Yes a massive double standard given that people were arrested for bumper stickers and t-shirts outside of shrub rallies. Okay many people who are supporting [. . .]
+ The claim that bringing a gun is an assertion of protection is bogus. The real intent is indeed intimidation - "I am showing you that [. . .]
+ To my knowledge no one has tried to bring a gun into one of these townhalls. So what the real debate should be over is [. . .]
+ Shorter Will: Politicians are corrupt, so let the poor starve. After all, since we stopped letting WASP elites run the country, it's too much of [. . .]
+ If only people would exercise their proper rights, we could all get along. Those who choose to exercise improper rights are just trying to start [. . .]
+ The problem is that SCOTUS has only recently recognized the 2nd Amendment as conferring an individual right, and there is very little law (and no [. . .]
+ Isn’t vulnerability to special interests just another way of saying democracy, warts and all? So there’s the Norman Rockwell, Freedom of Speech, but there are [. . .]

So, libertarians believe we shouldn't have laws? I didn't know this.

The implication being - these are double standards....


The man would be in Guantanamo.

Is the implication "AS WELL HE SHOULD BE!!!" or is the implication "hey, he's got a 2nd Amendment right"?


I don't mind when people exercise rights that I don't mind, it's when they exercise their rights that I do mind that I mind.

AvatarBruce Smith
+ Preventing widespread abuse by human beings of other human beings (like slavery and gun murder) relies on constraints to liberty agreed by majority and not [. . .]
+ Maybe different people have different reasons for carrying firearms to townhall meetings. I don't care -- it's their business. As a citizen, if they [. . .]
+ Dan Miller and greginak - Corporate chieftains may suffer from the same failings as politicians, but they don't run anything as consequential as the United States [. . .]
AvatarDr. Kenneth Noisewater
+ Large concentrations of power, both corporate and government, attract the most ambitious and glib of sociopaths. I'm afraid that we won't rid ourselves of [. . .]

Obviously it's for protection against the really, really crazy people.

I agree - what could be more compelling, really, than "it's my dick, I can circumcise if I want to"?

+ It's not about expressing their right to bear arms; it's about their "right" to armed revolution against a tyrannical government. It's entirely about reminding [. . .]
+ To answer your question with another question, what is the difference between a protestor who hold a simple sign which says, "No more war" or [. . .]
+ I don't think the obsession with status is anything limited with politicians. In fact the experience of say living with modern corporate executives seem to [. . .]
+ Peter Senge and other systems thinkers would likely point to sytemic problems which attract certain personality types then reward their worst defects of character -- [. . .]
AvatarBob Cheeks

Orrin's always been confused!
Hey, whas up with the print? Should I order magnifying glasses?

AvatarDan Miller in reply to greginak
+ I think insanity is a separate issue. What Will is talking about is the tendency of all politicians to turn into Carcetti (if you've [. . .]
+ Personally, I think that the "my dick" argument, properly phrased, is the strongest one. In any other context, just about nobody would dispute that [. . .]
AvatarBob Cheeks
+ I dunno, is it possible that those strapping pistols to their hips are just taking precautions to guard against more violent acts by BO's Core [. . .]
+ That's what Mike means about a cultural norm. Now imagine you're 19th century Chinese, about to bind your daughter's feet - or a polygamist sect [. . .]
+ Christakis et al. are very conservative: the only risks considered are the direct complications of surgery - and only some of those. They define complications [. . .]
+ Will's assumption that politicians are not like everybody else is questionable. It may be nice to think that Duke Cunningham is a unique crook but [. . .]
AvatarDan Miller
+ I touched on this in comments at the Fly Bottle, but I think it's a mistake to limit this analysis to top politicians; top corporate [. . .]
AvatarJaybird in reply to zic
+ One wonders what countries would be like if they could exile anyone they didn't feel like keeping around. One wonders what they'd be like if [. . .]
+ In this worldwide scenario of what he calls a post-progressive future, or what Bobbitt calls the market-state (which has destroyed the concept of [. . .]
AvatarMichael Drew
+ The most amazing thing about Ted Kennedy was most certainly Orrin Hatch and how much he and all Republicans everywhere loved Ted Kennedy. If [. . .]
AvatarJoe in reply to Mark
+ Mark, you said in your post that Freddie's link indicates 35% of new infections are heterosexual. Are you combining Male and Female? I looked at [. . .]
+ "These studies are demonstrating a clear advantage in fighting a terrible disease," If you look at the actual studies, they're not so so impressive. In three [. . .]