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In Which I Take on a Nobel Laureate
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opposition as governance
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Rights and Responsibilities
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Fiscal Responsibility
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Why not give merit pay a shot?
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More meandering thoughts.
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Education is local
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Palin’s Op-Ed ctd.
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How to make a terrible argument, the Matt Steinglass way
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Our Three Party Democracy
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The comments...

AvatarMichael Drew
+ All the arguments offered here that public option will not bring cost savings are entirely speculative and based in assumption after assumption. Any [. . .]
+ These are really just two opposing philosophies of governance. What rankles me, personally, is that some who endorse the latter philosophy act as though it's [. . .]
+ If I’m going to negotiate with someone I’m going to try to find out a.) what they want b.) what they need and c.) what [. . .]
AvatarBruce Smith
+ Mark: It sounds like we must agree to disagree about the value of written constitutions although my argument against them does place reliance upon written law. [. . .]
+ That market-oriented politicians should have to swallow whatever watered-down government program the Democrats sell them is absurd. umm...thank you. You know as much as [. . .]
AvatarRyan in reply to Jaybird
+ That's not very clear. What does it mean for a right to "spring" from an individual? Are we talking fully-formed like Athena from [. . .]
AvatarJaybird in reply to Jaybird
+ Official Request For TLoOG: We need an open thread on the sidebar, to be replaced by a new open thread when old open thread gets pushed [. . .]
AvatarJaybird in reply to Jaybird
+ Rights spring from the individual if they spring from anywhere at all. If “rights” are little more than privilege extended by the powerful to constituents, [. . .]
AvatarRyan in reply to Jaybird
+ Then where do they come from? God? Nature? Human reason? How do we apprehend them? How do we decide whether [. . .]
+ You know, I've been trying to wrap my head around the quote from Jackson for a bit now because quite frankly the tepid support for [. . .]
AvatarScott

The teachers unions will never give up any of their control to allow a program such as this and anyone who thinks so is naive.

haha. I guess I really didn't have to:

http://gawker.com/5352209/fox--friends-turns-to-michelle-malkin-for-advice-on-civil-debate

you know eating crow...not so unpleasant as one would expect.

+ Moreover, with the exception of the always crazy Jim DeMint, there aren’t 15 different books on shelves calling the President a socialist, fascist, egotistical, [. . .]
+ I couldn't agree more (though I think there's more room for federal involvement in school reform/success) but the one thing I'd add is the idea [. . .]
AvatarJaybird in reply to Jaybird
+ I don't see rights as things that can be created by a vote, anymore than I see them as things that can be destroyed by [. . .]
AvatarChris Dierkes
+ sorry, here's the Klein link (actually from yesterday not today): The Public Plan is not the Same as as Cost Control. I highly recommend this [. . .]
AvatarJaybird in reply to Ryan

The smart, charismatic, articulate folks generally do pretty well in the private sector.

AvatarChris Dierkes
+ Even Ezra Klein today said that the public option---as currently being discussed in the House--is not going to reduce cost. It would, he argues, [. . .]
AvatarRyan in reply to Dave
+ /facepalm 1. We agree that the system is not based on "unbridled majoritarianism". We even agree that "unbridled majoritarianism" is a bad thing. But [. . .]
AvatarDave in reply to Ryan
+ Enacting the will of the majority isn’t “bulldozing over the minority”. It’s just plain old democracy, and the rest of the Western world gets by [. . .]
+ Bingo. Universal, mandated coverage, subsidies, and severing the link between employer and insurance - a nice start. Obviously the political realities make that [. . .]
+ Couldn't agree more. In fact my anecdotal experience - being so removed from what CNN tells me the American people are feeling - really makes [. . .]
+ I always use the analogy of a car insurer. It's like telling State Farm that they have to cover everyone, even when those people are [. . .]
AvatarWilliam Brafford in reply to Kyle
+ That was a weird election in 2000, wasn't it? Here's where I wish I were a social scientist, because my Bush-years experience in North Carolina was [. . .]
+ As for contempt, yes, I do have a huge amount of contempt for the removal of sections of people's genitals without their consent. That is [. . .]

While you're talking about making the legislature better...how about enlarging it?

+ You are not making enough effort to get outside your own assumptions about what is “normal”. Sixth toes are a non-rare genetic characteristic; I am [. . .]
+ Pat Calahan - Agree that teacher quality is difficult to measure, but it's definitely not impossible, and making the effort is certainly better than sticking with [. . .]
+ Complaining about the loss of an erogenous zone is ridiculous? You have never encountered people valuing pleasure before? The name ''Bentham'' means nothing at all [. . .]
AvatarRyan in reply to mike farmer

Haha, I'm sure. The sky does seem a little low today.

+ Well, it's discrimination in the pure sense of the word (as in "discriminating tastes"), and it may also be good business practice. In fact, [. . .]
+ You know, it’s interesting, but have you thought about how full of contempt that comment was? “Having a foreskin” became a medical abnormality for Jews [. . .]
+ Those are fair points, but I think if you except the period between 9/11 and the start of Operation Enduring Freedom, the left - especially [. . .]
+ You obviously didn't look very close at them or us. You really don't know how serious this all is, do you? We're all teetering on [. . .]
+ Kevin Carey's piece (linked at the end) has a good point, but your link to the Michelle Rhee story doesn't exactly bolster the idea that [. . .]
+ Just as a point of fact: It's not discrimination to deny insurance based on pre-existing conditions. It's good business practice. If people want insurers to [. . .]
+ Hah, from the title alone I gathered it was something Paul Krugman wrote. As an aside, since the departure of Bill Kristol, I think [. . .]
AvatarRyan in reply to Ryan

Feel free to tell me my advice is unwelcome. :)

AvatarRyan in reply to mike farmer
+ What libertarianism needs more than anything is a smart, charismatic, articulate spokesperson. Palin is arguably only one of those things, although her approval ratings [. . .]
AvatarAssaf S
+ This is all very reasonable, if one assumes that it is as easy to cut spending as it is to raise taxes. Unfortunately, political realities [. . .]
AvatarRyan in reply to Jaybird
+ I'm actually interested in unpacking that. Your position, I take it, is that people do not have "positive" rights even if the legal system [. . .]
AvatarRyan in reply to Jaybird
+ This is, of course, a very good argument for my position that what people want and what their representatives say they want aren't the same [. . .]
AvatarRyan
+ I'm actually mostly in agreement with this. The public option is no hill worth dying on, and I think a lot of Democrats know [. . .]
AvatarJaybird in reply to Jaybird

Are you familiar with the "positive rights" vs. "negative rights" argument?

It's that one.

AvatarJaybird in reply to Ryan
+ And yet... the public option was removed, was it not? While I appreciate the fact that The People want stuff, that appreciation is tempered by what [. . .]
+ This is good stuff, Jamelle. This should give me the push I needed to finish up a related post I've had in the queue [. . .]