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Well... There is some evidence the risk of spread from kids is much much lower.

So it’s not “Fuck parents.” It’s “How do we balance risk and reward?”

The alternative is “Fuck kids.” Sadly, that increasingly looks like the route we’re going.

Indeed. I’m in NJ, work in NYC, and participate in a FB group of educators from around the world. Teacher feelings are all over the map (including the horror you state).

Indeed. My sons were with their mom from 4 days before symptoms through day 2 of symptoms. Never got sick. Negative anti body tests.

They then spent 16 days with me. No illness. Negative antibody test.

Weird indeed.

I’m not wading into the politics of this.

The AAP is “worried” about kids not returning to schools. See their statement here: https://services.aap.org/en/pages/2019-novel-coronavirus-covid-19-infections/clinical-guidance/covid-19-planning-considerations-return-to-in-person-education-in-schools/

I’m not saying every school should re-open tomorrow. What I’m saying is that there are ways to re-open schools that mitigate risk and which will shield our children from the immense harm they’re suffering as a result of school closures.

Will we get there? I have no idea. But the assumption that it’s impossible — especially when that assumption is itself built on other assumptions not rooted in science — is simply wrong.

Are you aware many daycares have remained open throughout, serving children of essential workers (themselves at higher risk of exposure) and to date there have been almost no cases of transmission within them?

Well... yes. He said “most” react with “horror.” You, like I, am seeing a much wider range.

I think there is a way to open schools safely in areas with reduced spread.

Will that happen? Remains to be seen. Nothing is inevitable.

I will simply say that
A) There are many assumptions baked into your take, not all of them supported by any reliable science
B) We must know different teachers

What do you base this prediction on?

What you describe is something we haven’t really seen anywhere that Covid has hit.

Seems to be some pretty thoughtful leadership for the schools. Hoping, hoping, hoping it delivers.

This is kind of what I refer to below. How successful Jeffco is will depend on expectations. If someone is going to consider it a massive failure the moment a 6-year-old's mask slips below their nose, well, it is destined to fail. If we're going to consider it a success if no one contracts a severe case of the disease while in the school building, I think there is a pretty good chance they realize it.

I've heard a similar idea being bandied about in my town, with the possibility of spreading the young ones out across the 9+ district school buildings to allow for smaller groupings while keeping middle and upper on remote.

"The American education system is about to have a stress test, one that strips all the buzzwords and preconceived notions away by the brutal reality of a virus that doesn’t play by the rules the carefully constructed leviathan of professional education in America operates on. Administrators that make far more than the actual teachers will suddenly be in the spotlight like never before. Add the amount of “pass the blame” and “cover your ass” when the initial plans in a fluid environment fall short, and politicians, teachers unions, and pick-your-choice-of-educational-groups will be playing musical chairs to not get the blame.

Meanwhile, the kids and the parents are left stuck. Nothing crosses ideological lines like messing with someone’s livelihood or their kids. The coming back-to-school apocalypse is going to uniquely do both at the same time for a huge chunk of Americans."

As both a teacher and a parent, this is a really interesting perspective that I hadn't considered. I had to reflect more on it but I appreciate an opportunity to think differently about something I've considered from so many angles already.

I do think there is a chance... at least in certain pockets of the education leviathan... that things just sort of work. They may not be perceived as working, especially by those who disagree with the decisions being made, but kids and teachers tend to be highly adaptable. Well, kids are pretty inherently adaptable and any teacher worth their stripes has some adaptability as well. I envision at least some places where everyone does their best and no one does perfectly but everyone doing their best is enough to make things work enough that nothing catastrophic happens. Which, to be honest, is how schools tend to work even in the best of times: enough people doing enough to get enough done.

I don't know if that is a compliment or a criticism... :-/