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On “From ABC News: Judge Esther Salas’ son shot and killed, husband injured in attack at their NJ home

Pope probably already has an email folder all about and from this dude filled with spittle flecked messages.

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Apparently this is the dude. From Techdirt in 2016:

https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20160824/11181635335/lawyer-sues-basically-all-mainstream-media-rico-violations-how-they-report-donald-trump.shtml

He sounds waaaay out there. Apparently all the media did a RICO. (call out to ken white fans)

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Oh sweet Cthulhu, a MRA.

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Plenty of lawyers are incredibly nuts. Don't really have enough to go on just based on an old case.

4 days ago? So. She wouldn't have had a chance to rule on anything or even possible set a hearing date yet. Another judge will be assigned. This a stretch. A very stretchy stretch.

On “Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Distant Sounds of Inevitability Edition

We can get plenty of reallignment, which i agree is coming, at the congressional/state level. Much easier to get a wave of younger folks there to start pushing the D's in a different direction. Let Joe be the kindly slightly risque grandfather who doesn't spark major fears outside of the fever swamps while we a new generation of D's. At least i hope so.

On “I Miss Prayer

The protests over police violence were a long time coming and it absolutely sucked that overlapped with COVID. Two terrible things at one time.( The anti Reeses Peanut Butter Cup) I don't blame the protesters since police violence to POC has been a burning issue for decades and the Floyd video was egregious. I saw lots of protests were people were masked up and trying to distance. That is separate from the fact we never had hard lock downs like many other countries did. Those countries are also doing much better then us now.

It seemed like the pro cop people used any argument to defuse the protests and any action that might come from them. It was a f'd up tricky time to protest decades of violence during a pandemic. But dunking on protests of police murder seems screwed up to me. We also haven't seen new outbreaks in cities where there was a lot of protesting so it isnt' clear they were a direct cause of at least some of the outbreaks.

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Well you know the pro cop people really hated all those protests and loved to point out when they weren't peaceful.

On “Ordinary World: Torpedo the Thermal Exhaust Port Edition

Maybe there is something in it. I just haven't heard it. However i've been in social services/ mental health/court work for 30+ years so lots of things seem common place and old hat to me.

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Well they are muzzling the CDC to hide COVID data so you know things are just going fooking great. The only sporking thing they know how to do is cover up and bs. The idea of trying to competently manage a crisis isn't even a memory in their took kit.

So No to 1. There will still be plenty of money to made by R's so they will be paying each other to rip each other off.

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Just noting i've never heard a good word about something that is supposed to be ubiquitous and powerful. Someone must be reading it, but does anybody actually like it. Does it have any authority or is just the thing people like to hate so they keep talking about it since it easy to do.

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OW6 It's funny i've never read anyone say one positive thing about White Fragility yet it's apparently a best seller. You think someone would have something good to say about it. I mean, it's sounds terrible to me, but someone is buying the book i guess. Is it all HR depts in big corps? I'm serious that could be the answer and explain a lot. But it also seems like a lot of pixels being spent on something so weak.

On “Andrew Scales The Lofty Heights of Mt Cuomo

Yup, nobody more victimized then those working the PR machine for a new gig.

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Welp this clarifies the Bari Weiss thing. Andrew Sullivan just tweeted he is leaving the NY mag. They will be starting a project together. This quitting is the loud prelude to gin up energy for their new thing. Nothing announced yet but if this isnt' what happens i'll eat my pixels. It will be the freest thinking thing ever with a possible extensive look at The Bell Curve.

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Are there any other sides to the story? Do any other NYT columnists get called vile names?

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The Saudi's litterly killed a WAPO columnist. Who were the only people that tried to make a thing of that? The big news orgs. The trump gov did shite. That seems like a far far more serious "cancelling" then things we are talking about. Weiss herself has a fairly long history of trying to get people fired for views she didn't find proper.

On “There Are No Bad People

Yeah i miss him to. Wish he hadn't stormed off in a pissy huff.

On “Andrew Scales The Lofty Heights of Mt Cuomo

Well come on. Quitting a job is the same as being persecuted. She will certainly move on to a high paying gig or set of gigs forever. Being criticized is the same as being persecuted. It's not like every other NYT columnist doesn't get raked over the coals for everything. It's only her.

On “From Elizabeth Picciuto: The Real Free Speech Violations

Well yeah that is his magic. Of course it's not going to happen. It's more the ironic juxtaposition of that with the letters. This particular bugaboo is a thing that has been around RW media for a while which the only reason he has even heard of it. Still i doubt there is time for anything to actually even start to come of it even without court cases.

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Thus displaying why "free speech defenders" are more often just partisans who aren't actually helping the cause they claim to defend.

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That's probably part of it. I think Stephen Miller explains part of it still. But major football conferences are shrinking their schedules. Foreign visa students are nothing compared to football in terms of effect. They can teach visa stu's one on one, but without football it aint gonna be the same.

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LOL. He is threatening to take a benefit away from one group of people for speech he doesn't like. I guess that isn't a threat to free speech then. Carry on.

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Breaking news on the free speech front. The prez tweeted this:
"Too many Universities and School Systems are about Radical Left Indoctrination, not Education. Therefore, I am telling the Treasury Department to re-examine their Tax-Exempt Status..."
(Yeah i could have linked the tweet, but i wasn't taught how to do that in my lib indoctrination camp)

Firstly, of course this is bull squat, nothing will happen, it's the blusterest bluster that ever blustered even from him. Second, isn't this the kind of free speech threat that FS advocates are concerned about and should provoke a strong reaction.

But for F's sake no more damn open letters.

On “Thursday Throughput: Missing COVID Deaths Edition

The lowest estimate for what we need to get herd immunity i've read is 60% which no place is near. Even in spain which got hammered i think a recent study only found 5% of people had antibodies. It seems like we are several waves of infection from HI.

On “From Elizabeth Picciuto: The Real Free Speech Violations

The point of noting True Threats is to find a speech restriction that has complete( almost i guess) support. Yeah there are a lot of things that go towards making something a True Threat. And still it's a speech restriction we maintain as somethings need to be out of bounds.

We are discussing where the out of bounds line, or area, is. Not that there is a line.

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Free speech doesn't do that. FS isn't data about how society or individuals within a society are doing. FS is just one part, an important part, but only one element of a decent society. As an example for a long time sexist comments about women or sluts at gay people were fine and excepted. Now they aren't generally accepted in the workplace but are still common in a lot of social media. There are even social consequences for those comments sometimes. That could be seen as a decrease in free speech which it is. Some previously fine comments are now out of bounds. But that is also a direct improvement for the subjects of those comments.

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