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On “Thursday Throughput: Masks Edition

Well right now one of Trump's lawyers, Sidney Powell, is saying
"The entire election, frankly, in all the swing states should be overturned and the legislatures should make sure that the electors are selected for Trump"

Call it what you will.

Biden will be prez in jan, the only question is how much damage is done before then.

Fun fact, the current admin is refusing to brief the Biden admin on anything. Not foreign policy, not covid. How is that helping? Is that a set up for peaceful transfer of power with the best interests of the US in mind?

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I don't disagree. The election wasn't close.

Any board in this day and age that aims to have an appeal across the spectrum is going to have friction over things like......well...reality. Reality is pretty contested nowadays. There are some lines i won't cross, accusations of pedophilia is way past the line, but if we want decent discussions with people with different views we have to accommodate some arguments about reality, gravity, etc. That said i have no time for the overthrow the election crap, so i'll either just mock it or go to that bastion of sanity that is Twitter.

Of course there are matters, not who won the election, that seem like matters of fact but are more opinion. Getting people to understand that is a bit of task.

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Who is a troll and what kind of commentators we should have around here is not a new discussion at all. Who are trolls? It's like porn. If you think someone is a troll then ignore them.

Coups? Welp there a lot of words out there. What is the correct word for the argument that the votes of millions should be thrown out and the election decided by the congress or the supremes. Autogalope seems appropriate but who the hell knows what that means. Commonly used words are typically better then little used esoteric terms.

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Lots of things destroy good will. Having people scream a candidates son is a pedophile is one of them. I'm not saying he should be banned. Ignore the trolls is usually the best policy. But endless viscous attacks withers goodwill. As we are this place is good by intertoobz standards, but there are plenty of vicious attacks that inhibit good conversations.

Endless conspiracy theories don't move anything forward. At best its white noise in the background.

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Being technically dead hasn't stopped JFK Jr now has it.

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If an election were to ever be postponed the prez would have to be the Anti Trump in that he wasn't a internet troll and lightening rod. You would need a a metric crap ton of trust about what would happen and mutual agreement by both parties. In other words those conditions have never ever likely been met in the history of the US.

Vote by mail/early voting seems like the easy and obvious work around.

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That is really sad about Arecibo.

On “Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Post-election Intramurals Edition

Yeah it doesn't look like it's going to add up to anything in reality. But doesn't mean it isn't corrupt and an attempt to discredit/smear the election. It's an incompetent coupish kind of deal.

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Great news. The Wayne Co, Mich election board won't certify the election results. This was on a party line vote with the GOP saying no. Now to be clear, this is petulant toddler tantruming that will go no where. On the other hand this is sort of coup kind of stuff. Refusing to do their jobs because they don't like the results. Not exactly a Senator trying to get votes he didn't like thrown out, but it's in the same corrupt ballpark.

On “On History and Being Doomed to Repeat It

And commies, marxists, america haters, atheists, muslims, etc, etc, etc.

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People who do great evil , at least to us, see themselves as the good guys. Dictators and authoritarian govs always come in with great words about what they will do. (insert your favorite right or left wing ideas here). That's one reason dictators often have significant support in the population. In fact any good idea or concept can be twisted or worked in way to lead to bad or evil results.

As a liberal type (insert scary music here) i've long grown tired of the word fascism. It's, like many words/phrases thrown around now, almost meaningless. We would be better off throwing around fewer accusations and insults and suggestions of great evil among the people we disagree with. If you dont' like people yelling fascism then accusing others of being crypto evil something in the guise of tolerance etc isn't actually much different.

On “Harsh Your Mellow Monday: Post-election Intramurals Edition

Her video is right up with guy wearing dress as a issue of concern to me.

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Well yeah, that is one of the big reasons the words are typically pointless and useless.

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Hmm....Guess that's possible. Not a connoisseur so i wouldn't be much of a judge. Interesting.

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Southern style biscuits are edible cement. Wow a simple analogy proving her entire ideology is correct. Bless her heart. Think of all the simplistic analogies that weren't made because hers was.

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99+% of sentences with the words socialism or capitalism in them are meaningless tripe. Way to vague or undefined to mean anything. It's all projection of what ever evil or good thing someone wants to assert.

On “Motivated Ambiguity and the 2020 Election

Sure. So this looks like a nothing burger that changes nothing.

I know i've done my part with updates but reminding people what the various investigations and sworn testimony found out about trumps campaign coordinating with russia.

On “Attention Must Be Paid: The Electoral Lessons of the Working Class

This is good Dennis and i agree with a lot of it. However, that had to be coming right, this seems a bit divorced from many of the actual policies proposed by R's and D's. Now of course we know nobody really cares about actual policy, only sort of joking here. D's pushed and spent effort to try to get more people health care which worked in a limited fashion and were punished for it. But getting more people health care is popular so the lie cannon had to be set at maximum for years even to the point where trump felt he needed to repeatedly lie about it. But who got health care for more working class people and who bull shitted about it.

Doing something to improve health care was showing attention to the working class. Lying about it was pissing on them. While i agree with much of this essay there is disconnect between results and words that is filled in by polarized team politics. D's don't respect the working class has some truth to it and is also just a thing people assume to be true based on their own biases and what people have repeated. Same with R's respecting the working class. Upper class R's feel the same way as other upper class people in general about the working class. They might cosplay as working class which i guess some people buy but seems pretty damn insulting to me.

On “Motivated Ambiguity and the 2020 Election

Was this the guy who got 130k from conservative donors? Seems like fraud was indeed found.

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One of the ways to spread rumors is to chum the waters with "suspicious" things then never come back to them. Never any reporting. Just through out "this is bad" then let it go.

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Good news SecState Pompeo just said "“There will be a smooth transition to a second Trump administration."
Things are going great.

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The Mueller report, the recent Senate and reported and testimony in Stone and Manafort's trials gave a metric crap ton of info about what happened. Yet R media still pretends nothing happened and you are running this tripe. It''s disingenuous arguing.

Fun things: Mcsally is mathematically eliminated in AZ but still hasn't conceded. There is some dope R in Cali who is losing something like 83% to 17% who isn't conceding and taking that bad boy to corut.

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I want to know a lot more about it. Does this happen every election? What did the PR people say was happening? When were they postmarked? Were they in a secure location just not counted? There are all sorts of questions that could flesh out this video. Showing a vid is maybe the start of a story. Where is all the follow up. Maybe that will show something. But this needs more.

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This isn't the direct point of your comment but i'm a big free speecher to. I would defend nazis right to speech and do everything i could to mock and harm their movement. They have rights but they are toxic and dangerous. F them. They have rights and are welcome to them. They are also a blight.

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Is it true? Who is Dave Begnaud? Is any of this verified as actually happening? Are there other explanations or info not included?

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