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On “A Clusterfark in Wisconsin

So not really about gerrymandering. It was rejected on a technical legal argument. That may be correct and fair but the point is that is doesn't validate gerrymandering or some such. G was using a distraction tactic to evade the subtle hint that Wisc seems a wee bit gerrymandered.

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Gerrymandering is real. It's almost like the constitution doesn't have one completely clear and obvious meaning we can all agree on. The court is as partisan as Roberts can stomach since he wants the court to be seen as non-partisan.

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That prob came off a bit more aggressive then i meant it. G only said here was a scotus decision, but we all know scotus cases are often on principals of law or arcane matters not directly deciding an issue. Saying scotus said doens't prove anything w/o more details about the actual case. He was also evading the issue of how you get a majority voting for one party but getting a much smaller percentage of seats without a gerrymander or wild chance.

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What was the scotus decision? What did it actually say? Did it say gerrymanders are just fine and dandy? George didn't say what the scotus said or what the case was about. Was the decision on standing or a technical matter?

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When even holding a safe election becomes a fight it makes it hard to feel positive about where we are going as a country. That leaves aside even talking about fair elections without gerrymandering. Even an obvious and proven safe solution which would increase voting turnout like vote by mail becomes another fight. Of course at that point, as admitted by a few R's, that would destroy their chances of winning elections so we know why that is a problem.

On “Kids! What’s The Matter With Kids Today?

Urmm....no but i didn't pay attention to the licking things guy. I have known a lot of young people who did grow up in VFW's who did high risk, low thought things for the yucks often involving machines, drinking and consuming mass quantities.

On “Carnage: 6.6 Million in Initial Jobless Claims, 10 Million Two Week Total

Herd immunity, ie: killing all the vulnerable people, does work. I'm not sure that is the point you think you think you are making. For HI to really work you need a very large percentage of people to get it and survive or get a vaccine. What is the death toll if 90+% of the pop gets it? Sure we'll get some sweet sweet herd immunity from that.

On “Andrew Yang, Bringer of Pestilence

Oh i blame it on yang completely. Twitter is just the venue where people rush to announce their dumbest thoughts. Bill Mitchell is on there are often fills the bill on today's dumbest thing ever.

On “Carnage: 6.6 Million in Initial Jobless Claims, 10 Million Two Week Total

Some are. We'll see how that changes by the end of april. Some will still be eager to get out, some will have watched the death toll rise.

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Well the response and the pre-exsisting inequalities.

Ahh i see. "best response..." Yeah i've hear about trumps shitposting. But in the real world however.....

On “Andrew Yang, Bringer of Pestilence

Twitter is the place to go when you want to say " That is the dumbest f'ing thing i've ever heard" everyday.

On “Kids! What’s The Matter With Kids Today?

Lots of stuff here. I agree kids are pretty much the same as they have always been for better and worse. People often project on kids their own fears.

One of the problems i have with the culture critique is how vague and ill defined it is. Movies/tv is certainly part of culture. But so is church and the local vfw and little league and backyard bbq's. Kids are affected by what is around them, but that is everything, not just the splashy media. Parents/family have years where they are pretty much all the kids know before media culture starts becoming more prominent. In our early years parents have tremendous sway to form, or F up, our personalities. I'm not going to do a lit search or dig into the pile of studies in my drawers but there is amply evidence of parents influence on kids temperament. Certainly the children of people with mental health problems, high conflict divorce or alcoholism show significant affects from their parents. What has changed quite a bit over the last half century is the ability for people to move away to be different people. Before ww2 most people would live near where they grew up which brought much more pressure to not change and to conform. Now that people can and do move there is more freedom to be different. This used to happen a long time ago but people told different stories about and didnt see it. Among the many old Alaskan legends people love to tell their kids is about old gold rushes. Hard working men come to make their fortune then go back rich to their families. Of course far more gold rushers dies in avalanches then got rich. And of those that got rich more did it by selling booze, women or shovels to the new people looking for gold. Some stayed here living a new wild life and never went back home because they could be a new different person. This is part of settling of the west. It touches on what veronica said above. There were plenty of men living with other men in the wilds of the west because they were free to be different and who they wanted to be. Mobility is the big change that has allowed people to be who they want often to the disgruntlement of their parents.

Whatever the media sells it's because people buy it. Teens like to be told they should express all their feelings and their feelings are great. People ( read as most men) love justified revenge movies ( death wish and about a zillion others) since it makes it righteous to be a killing machine. Romcoms, etc. All wish fulfillment.

On “Carnage: 6.6 Million in Initial Jobless Claims, 10 Million Two Week Total

It isn't just affecting 1% regardless of class though. It is hitting POC and poor/working class folk harder. Not solely them but not an even distribution.

On “Hammers and Hangnails

Strong agree. Some people fall into the Suffering Olympics which is complete garbage. At a time when we are all under stress telling others their troubles aren't suffering right is , at best, completely unhelpful. We dont' know where this is going which makes the relatively not terrible struggle of staying at home much worse. Uncertainty makes everything worse. We got TP but we need to keep our supplies of slack to give each other full.

On “Carnage: 6.6 Million in Initial Jobless Claims, 10 Million Two Week Total

Every time people have shown you crimes and collusion you ignored it or explained it away. You've been shown. You don't believe. Okay. But don't say nobody has shown you.

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Since when does the WHO run the US. Please, that is some sad trump fluffing. Biden, Schumer, Warren and the Sen from Conn whose name i'm forgetting all called for a significant effort and that CV was going to be bad at the end of Jan. Burr and Loffler certainly read the tea leaves well enough to dump and buy stocks to profit well this.

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Plenty of us on the left want universal healthcare. There are different ways to do that. I'm not sure why single payer has become the be all and end all of UniHC. A hybrid German/Swiss style system is just as effective and would easier to implement i think. Keep eyes on the goal, Uni HC, not the process to get there.

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The underlying problem is that lettuce is just terrible. It is the packing peanuts of the food world.

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Also last year the admin got rid of our point person from the CDC stationed in , get this, China. That job was to interface with the Chinese and keep an eye on what was going on re: diseases.

That may, in retrospect, not have been a great idea.

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Lots of pople love seasonal work so they can play the rest of the year. Loads of skiers, climbers, etc do that and it works well for them. The pay and conditions are a big part of making it work. Changing the cultural perception of that work might be the biggest challenge.

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Way to hammer that talking point.

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The biggest hurdle will be getting people to live as migrant workers living temporarily in one place then moving on to the next crop. That is hard to do with kids and no child care in the area. Health care is far away as often is family. It's not just about the pay, it's a hard lifestyle. Pay has always been just one of the issues.

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Umm was any money given to the cruise lines? I thought they were not eligible.

On “Joe Biden: Staying Alive

So we agree there was a compromise that the parties worked out. You just didn't like it. Fine enough. Any compromise we eventually come to will include things everybody isn't thrilled with. That is the nature of compromises.

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There was a compromise bill in 13 between senate R's and D's. Anti Immigration R's in teh house shot it down.

The photos people refer to tell about 1% of the story. There has been a major difference between the Obama and Trump approaches to immigration. see DACA vs. no refugees for an example.

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