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On “Put Away Childish Things

Thanks! Reading the New Yorker piece now, will have to wait till my NYT resets as it's behind a paywall.

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Great point. I'm actually fortunate to do something I really do love and it still burns you out after a while. That would def. be a great piece, thanks.

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the rest of the piece explains it a little more, and I expanded on it in my blog: https://atomicfeminist.com/2019/08/24/on-glorious-bastards/

On “Men Who Help

Oh boy! I'll dust off my secret handshake and report back

On “Speaking of Terror

We definitely need a name for that.

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I really, really, really enjoyed this and found it very brave and thought provoking. Great work.

On “Put Away Childish Things

Nice. Thanks for reading and sharing.

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No trap intended; I started thinking about this post ages ago because I understand his reasoning, and I like to think about why things have evolved the way(s) that they have. This is what I've come up with that feels truest to me. Would welcome his thoughts and input but there is no adversarial intent whatsoever on my part, simply curiosity.

I was well aware upon writing that many commenters would have plenty of examples that don't fit the bill, but it's widespread enough that many of us find it offputting and as I've not ever heard anyone discuss it before (would love to read the NYT piece if it crosses your mind who wrote it) I thought it was worthy of discussion.

Thanks for reading.

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There is also absolutely that element of it, which I skipped over because I felt like others had mentioned it before. But yeah, I def. feel many days like I don't particularly want to watch Saving Private Ryan or similar equivalent, KWIM? I just don't have the emotional energy left to spare.

I should have very likely split this piece but I liked the overall theme.

ps - love your idea! :) Fun!

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Yeah, if I'd had enough time I'd have split it into three pieces, because I already split it into two, gonna post the other on my blog shortly. I felt some (totally self-imposed) time pressure on this one and it shows, unfortunately. Big gear shift towards the end. Would have been better for a month of rumination, no doubt.

I'm not super interested in offering solutions. I'm a libertarian and that means that I believe when there's a problem, eventually someone will come along and start fixing it, and I think we're already seeing that happen with quite a few of the superhero shows really bringing the heat (S3 of Daredevil, and the newly released The Boys, for example). I'm just naming the problem as I see it, because I'm tired of everyone acting like people don't want to grow up, when in reality they just don't want to read/watch a certain type of show.

Thanks for reading.

On “Men Who Help

Ha glad you clarified re thirsty! They keep inventing new words faster than I can keep up.

One of my fave writers, Jess Walter, often has people getting eye injuries in his writing. I always wonder what happened to him.

LOL re book orders - I'll take that as a compliment! :) Thanks for reading!

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That is all entirely true and since it was beyond the scope of the piece I really appreciate you chiming in to share your experience.

Sometimes help is not really help.

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That is true of so many things that are glamorized in media!

I really enjoy the character and the realism of her. Thanks for reading.

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Exactly! I'm so glad you read this, I had our conversation in mind when I wrote it.

Your story sounds lovely and I promise it's no stupider than writing about a couch that eats people. I'd love to read it!

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Kim may get a spinoff and I certainly hope she does.

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All that is true, but please understand that my larger point here is that women - real live ones, not fictional characters - are expected to do by far and away more than ever before and we are expected to do it all perfectly. We are supposed to have jobs, a family, keep house, exercise, look fabulous, have hobbies, be demons in the sack, create perfect bento boxes for our children's lunch and post pics of it on social media etc etc etc and it's a lot of pressure and it's a lot of work. Even if you aren't seeing it in fiction, I assure you that in real life, that message is blaring very loudly in every woman's ear since birth for at least the past 50 years from a whole lot of non-fiction sources.

I get that it was dumb to have a girl in the background jumping up and down in movies and TV. I get that there were toxic messages attached to that (but of course, at least women saw actual women in real life doing all sorts of things to counteract what they saw on screen). To replace one untrue trope with an equally untrue trope where supernatural creatures who just so happen to be female who are constantly perfect and always flawless do all the stuff singlehandedly while the men stand around going "Duh, Ralphie" with their finger up their nose or down their pants - it does nothing for me. In fact in many ways it seems very much akin to the 9 million toxic messages I'm already getting from everywhere anyway - that women have to do it all, all alone, all the time.

On “Breaking Bad: Picard

Not to my knowledge, they were usually falling all over themselves to praise him (which is why it's fun to imagine them saying it)

On “Defenders Of The Gold Bikini 2: The Fempire Doesn’t Strike Back

Right, but it was explained by "she just lost the will to live" and Sarah Jeong made a pretty good case in her original piece that that was actually what the writers intended. So that's what I'm basing my conclusion on (I had thought up till reading that piece, that the Emporer did it to finish turning Anakin to the Dark Side).

Like I mentioned in the piece I'd have very much loved to see the time spent on Anakin's angst and prophetic dreams (on a short list of my least fave plot devices) and had more interaction between Obi-Wan and Padme. Agree that would have been much better.

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Thanks for reading! It means a lot!

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no, I spent that much time and energy talking about issues and attitudes that affect women (more than half the population, WOWZERS) through the lens of fiction, but thanks for playing

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Hey, thanks for reading! :)

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There is a lot to criticize about modern feminism, not the least of which is that they seem to have all but deliberately turned themselves into such a convenient demon (by being constantly exhausting and alienating, fighting all the wrong battles over all the dumbest things) that they have all but turned into a stereotypical boogeyman for the types of people who are on full display in the comments of this piece.

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Bullpucky they have. People do not just up and die because they have a raging case of the sadz. They fight to live - often for the sake of their children - in far far worse situations than what Padme had been through and they do it ALL the time. There are women giving birth right now who have suffered all kinds of abuse and atrocity, are hungry, scared, alone, in terrible situations, and they not only survive but they fight to survive. Some people get depressed and may waste away over time, but that is OVER TIME and not "welp guess I'll keel over dead because the Republic has fallen".

Dying of a "broken heart" is a thing that happens (although it's a misleading name) but it's treatable and does not entail someone "losing the will to live." The heart actually goes into spasm, it's treatable, the robot would have detected something wrong instead of stating clearly that nothing was wrong with her, and is much more prevalent among postmenopausal women, which Padme was not.

And while I do think that one of us is blinded by their personal agenda, I really do not think that person is me.

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